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Animated Star Wars on Cartoon Network

NeoCode writes "There were rumours and speculations first. Now it looks like its a done deal. Harry Knowles, of AintItCool.com has reports on an animated version of Star Wars set after AOTC but before episode 3. This series is produced by Genndy Tartakovsky (Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack). The cartoons will be a series of short films. Could this infuse Star Wars with a new life or is this just another merchandising plot? Nevertheless, this could be quite interesting." Yeah look what good Ewoks & Droids did for the SW universe ;)

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  1. This has been done a long time ago by archeopterix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    See telnet://blinkenlights.nl

  2. Starwars... by shaitand · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hate to see the already over commercialized star wars further cheapened like this. Are they going to have a Leia in the prisoner outfit???? If they do I'll watch it, cheap or not.

  3. Let's hope it's better than Asciimation! by ToadMan8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not that there's anything wrong with Asciimation but I'm not sure if the masses would accept this sort of thing. Hey, and besides, your TV would need screen font anti-alaising! This thing should have sound too, it'd be really cool then...

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  4. Too "cartoony" by MidoriKid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've always been a fan of Tartakovsky's work, but I don't think his style suits the universe. I imagine it wouldn't have the detail that I need in a Star Wars franchise.

  5. Additions to, complications of "the canon"? by JessLeah · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hmm. Well, this could be a boon to the Star Wars franchise (which of course has done amazingly well anyhow ;) ) or it could just throw the chances of any sequels (Episode VII, anybody?) into the toilet.

    It's simple, and I'll illustrate it by the example of Back to the Future. BTTF was a successful trilogy with many fans (among whom I am one), but then they introduced an animated TV show, and did a ride at Universal Studios: Florida, which used a plotline set after (fourth-dimensionally-speaking) all three of the movies. Both of these things added quite substantially to "the canon", as they were all officially blessed by the producers of the original BTTF trilogy.

    Every episode of any official "Star Wars" cartoon that's even remotely related to the Skywalker clan or other key figures from the series has the potential to -greatly- complicate the Star Wars "canon", and making another series of movies that fit with the sum of the existing canon that much more difficult...

    1. Re:Additions to, complications of "the canon"? by NoodleSlayer · · Score: 5, Interesting
      George Lucas has said in interviews that he never intended to make a sequel trilogy and probably won't, then again the capitalist in him might prevail, if a sub-par Star Wars movies (read: Episode I) can make $200+ million at the box office then more Star Wars movies are easy cash. However considering how long it took him to start making Episode I it seems doubtful.

      As for complicating the Star Wars "canon" the general rule of thumb for any SciFi universe is to treat extretaneous sources (Books, animated series, etc.) as seperate and inconsequential in the universe. However there are exceptions, there's been a number of Babylon 5 books released drawn up on plot outlines written by J. Michael Straczynski that works nicely within the existing B5 canon, however there hasn't been many major B5 projects since Rangers. If Lucas is willing to write out some storylines for the animated series that fit into the existing Star Wars "canon", it could provide a nice treat for Star Wars fans.

      ~Noodle

    2. Re:Additions to, complications of "the canon"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The SW Expanded Universe (i.e., any story in a medium that's not the films: games, comics, novels, TV) has always been rather consistent with the original trilogy of films, and elements that originated in the EU were incorporated into the prequel films (the name of the Republic capital planet from the Thrawn novels, a Twi'lek Jedi from the comics, other names from places like the Droids series). The few problems have had "continuity fixes" in place for a long time now. Moreover, LucasFilm Licensing has always strived to make the EU consistent with itself, and you'll see things like novels referencing game characters (like the main character from the X-Wing PC games being a prominent general in the last New Jedi Order novel).

      This series is rumored to involve the Clone Wars, and LFL held a fairly large summit last summer to plot out the war's major events and decide in which medium they'll be covered. Episode III begins with the last battle of the Clone Wars, so there's no danger of something zany happening in the next film to throw out all the events being depicted in the interim. There's already been several post-AotC EU titles announced and released showing war events:

      • Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns (game)
      • Clone Wars (game)
      • The New Droid Army (game)
      • Boba Fett: Fight to Survive and Crossfire (children's novels)
      • Republic #49 and on (comic)
      • Shatterpoint (novel)
      There's an article on the CW publishing program here:

      http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2002/11/news200211 15.html

      SW licensed stories/etc. are different from things like Trek in that they're edited rigorously precisely to prevent continuity problems. It's all meant to be one story (whether it's a good one or not varies from audience member to audience member).

    3. Re:Additions to, complications of "the canon"? by blincoln · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is hearsay, but I think that Lucas very carefully goes over the details of anything Star Wars to make sure the details are consistent with the rest of the universe before it gets the official seal of approval.

      Haha, I seriously hope you were joking.

      If not, have a look at The Star Wars Holiday Special, novels like The Crystal Star, or pretty much any of the videogames to see any number of contradictions and alterations.

      IMO, the only detail anyone at Lucasfilm is concerned with re: spinoff products are the royalty fees.

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  6. Animated Trek by Crixus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The animated Trek series of the 70's didn't last long, but there were a few decent stories among the lot.

    Rich...

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    1. Re: Animated Trek by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Informative

      The animated Trek lasted two seasons, which finished the "five year mission" that the live action series promised even though NBC canned them after only three. (Now, there's an example of a short-sighted network move...)

    2. Re: Animated Trek by steveha · · Score: 3, Informative

      William Shatner, in his book, said that Star Trek was done in by the primitive Nielson ratings of the day. At the time, they only looked at overall numbers, and other shows pulled higher overall numbers.

      These days they break the numbers out by demographics, and look at numbers within various categories. Star Trek appealed to some of the very desirable demographics: college-age people, for example.

      Had the studios been using more sophisticated ratings systems, Star Trek would have been seen as a success, and would have been around longer.

      steveha

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  7. appealing to all age groups?? by SuperDuG · · Score: 4, Funny
    Okay well with Episode I we got Jar Jar, then there was the ewoks in V I think. That covers tha younger crowd.

    Then we got Senator/Princess/soon-Milf/ Amedalla and Pricess Laya. That covers the middle age male crowd.

    Then we got Anakin, Obi Wan, Luke, and Han Solo. That covers the middle age female crowd.

    Then we got Episode II Yoda whoppin some ass, but then getting really tired. There's a happy senior citizen crowd.

    I think Lucas is just trying to appeal to as many people as possible to make as much money as possible. Make something for everyone and everyone will want one.

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    1. Re:appealing to all age groups?? by glwtta · · Score: 3, Funny
      Then we got Senator/Princess/soon-Milf/ Amedalla and Pricess Laya. That covers the middle age male crowd.

      Um, no, that's still the 13 year old boy crowd.

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  8. Re:Hi by Idarubicin · · Score: 3, Insightful
    So, this is a troll, right? I'll bite anyway, because my lunch is still cooking...

    I'll be finished my first degree (Chemical Physics) in the spring. I rent, but I pay for it myself. I ride a bike because it's cheaper and better for the environment. (Ironic that you work in the Department of...Atmospheric Science, eh?) I love to cook. And yes, you have lost touch with us all.

    'Growing up' doesn't have to be about losing touch with your sense of wonder. Heck, it's what will keep me going in the sciences in grad school.

    Oh, and for the record, I loved Lilo & Stitch.

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  9. humping my childhood by someguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder some days whether I would have liked the original trilogy even half as much if it were to come out now over when I was a wee little tyke.

    (hint:the answer is no.)

    I wonder how many people that were in their 20s when the original trilogy came out are at the same level of fandom as the people who are in their 20s now and grew up with the movies.

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    1. Re:humping my childhood by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Empire" was much more grown up, but large parts of "Jedi" were as cartoony as episode 1.

      The problem with Episode 1, was that while it really did have a pretty grown-up plot, the grown-up plot was given short shrift so Lucas could show us 21 minutes of Jake Lloyd going "Yippee!", 47 minutes of droids being blown up and chopped in half, 67 minutes of teeth-grindingly annoying Jar-Jar antics and 153 minutes of min-numbing pod racing. The plot, while very interesting, seemed like an afterthought, and was shoe-horned into a couple of short scenes, even though there was much more story to tell.

      Episode II was good for pure action, but the lame attempts at characterization dashed any chance of being able to take the characters seriously.

      Anakin: "My mother was killed so I became a mass-murderer!"

      Amidala: "There, there. That's OK. We all go on a killing spree once in a while. Let's get married and have twins."

      Anakin: "For no reason, I don't have a father."

      Amidala: "Parthenogenesis is so-o-o-o cute. Can Jar-Jar be our best man?"

      Anakin: "I'm just angry all the time."

      Amidala: "Hush, dear. We're late for your aqualung fitting."

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  10. same author as samurai jack by hfastedge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If its by tartakovski, i seriously think that this will be amazing.

    Samurai Jack is one of the most peaceful, and exhilirating cartoons I have watched. The director is not afraid of satisfying the modern day attention span. Rather, I find this show to be a truly artistic maverick in company with other more marketable shows. Example: in a given episode of Jack, you can easily find 2-3 minutes of pure silence, which brings out the mood of 2 great warriors resting midway through a battle, or a quiet brook trickling next to a snowy field where our hero is seen in the corner of the screen slowly making his way.

    Yet....the show is sorta cooky AND funny at times. Its VERY well done, as emersive as Aeon Flux for sure.

    I know the cartoon will be good.

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  11. Moo.... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thats the sound of the cash cow, getting milked for all its worth.

    If they make a Star Wars cartoon, they can make a whole new range of merchandise to keep em going until Ep3 comes out..

    I wish they weren't so bloody obvious about it though.

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    1. Re:Moo.... by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "If they make a Star Wars cartoon, they can make a whole new range of merchandise to keep em going until Ep3 comes out..",

      Spaceballs the Toilet Paper!

  12. Now, the question... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... Will it be a cheap "Hanna-Barbera/Toei"-style flat animation, a good-quality "Looney-Tunes"-quality with Carl-Stalling-quality music flat animation, or will it use extensive CG (à la "Reboot") (and in that case, no one cares about the music)???

  13. This may work by scotay · · Score: 5, Funny

    Much of Lucas' dialog writing skillz come off like Mojo Jo Jo.

    Luke, I, Darth Vader, am your father! And you shall obey my commands because I am the father (not the son). It is I who you will obey! Obeying my commands is what you will do as the son. I will give you commands, and you will obey them! Ha ha ha ha ha! I do this because I am bad, I am evil, I am the father. I am Darth Vader!

  14. My Grudge with Harry... by BTWR · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The thing that pisses me off about Harry Knowles is his elitism, which is twofold. First off, he seems like a real nice guy who feels very fortunate about his fame, but some stuff about him just piss me off so much. Harry is a film geek in every stereotypical way possible. This is not a bad thing necessarily, but just pisses me off that he should be SO stereotypical. He loves all the movies a movie geek "should" love (from Night of the Living Dead to the new must-love-if-you're-a-geek films like Pitch Black, Robocop and Princess Monanoke). Occationally, he tries to make himself look good by posting a negative review of some marginally-accepted good film (Like Signs or something) - but coincidentally, he NEVER says something like "I hates Superman, Rocky, Matrix" etc. Just seems so shallow that he loves every movie you're supposed to love and sometimes bashes movies that are too cliche to love. The Newsweek article had him stating his favorite movies. They were all obscure 1930's horror movies that no one knew and just made him sound so intelligent. On Aint-it-cool, whenever some correographer on Hong Kong martial arts movies from the 1960's dies, he cries about how a "Legend has left us" - once again dropping how intelligent he is that he knows the impact that one person had on the entire industry.

    Second, WILL HE STOP IT WITH THE NAMEDROPPING??? Honestly, I used to think it was just a matter of jealousy on the aicn users part that they hated when he'd mention Robert Rodriguez as a friend. Now, however, he states in every article almost how some director called him personally, or how scared the industry is of him. Ugh. So annoying.

    However, the ultimate reason why I don't visit AICN anymore has nothing to do with Harry at all.

    a) His forums are not threaded. When a major forum with 1000 posts comes, it's impossible to have a CONVERSATION (the responses are 100 posts apart)and it's impossible to read any of the posts towards the bottom.

    b) The forum posters piss me off more than anything. These people do NOT know how to enjoy something. AICN forums are simply mediums to pick apart every film's most microscopic (and even if non-existing) flaws and state such claims that Spiderman with organic web shooters "robs my childhood" - THOSE are the guys I want to take a bat to (which is why I LOVED the end of Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back!(

    Geeks don't bother me (hense, I'm on Slashdot), but assholes do.

  15. Lucas in it for the money, again by Gary+Franczyk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wouldn't get too enthused about it just yet. It has been evident that George Lucas not been in touch with the Star Wars phenomenon since Jedi. Since then, he has only been extending his retirement fund with poor quality "extensions" on the original masterpiece.

    - Rerelease of the originals with "additional" footage, with a slew of promotional and marketing gimmicks.
    - Three prequels, with a slew of promotional and marketing gimmicks.
    and now:
    - A cartoon version, with a slew of promotional and marketing gimmicks.

    1. Re:Lucas in it for the money, again by dswensen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And the slew of promotional and marketing gimmicks that have been an inherent part of Star Wars since day one...

      Were you not alive in 1977? Merchandise has always been part of Star Wars. Merchandising makes money and keeps Pepsi ads out of the Coruscant billboards. More power to them is what I say.

      Moreover, little kids like action figures. When I was a kid, I had a ton of them. Was I being marketed to? Was Lucas making money because I liked action figures? Hell yes. But I also got a whole lot of fun out of it, and many fond memories of my childhood, and many entertaining conversations with good friends about the cool stuff we had when we were kids.

      And now, because I'm grown up and don't like action figures anymore, it suddenly has to be wrong and evil and George Lucas should die penniless and alone on some street corner for the unforgivable sin of spending his whole life trying to entertain himself and us, and kids today just don't get it and turn down that durn rock and roll music...

      Give it a rest. If you're so principled, go make your own movie, with money from your own pocket, and then sell it at a tremendous loss. Then you'll have proved yourself the better man.

    2. Re:Lucas in it for the money, again by fpp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow, you really don't know Lucas at all...

      For him, it's never been about the money. If it were, he would be cranking out Star Wars movies like James Bond films, and there would be 20 of them by now.

      The re-release of the films in 1997 was done not for money, but for several other key reasons:

      1) to restore the film, because the negative was badly deteriorated (if it hadn't been done at that time, the original negative would not have lasted another few years)
      2) to use the trilogy as a test bed for some new effects that he would need to have ready for Episode I
      3) as a kind of litmus test, to see if the public was still receptive to the aging franchise (which of course, it was)

      The merchandising is an important aspect of the films, as it allows Lucas to stay an independent producer. The money generated from it subsidizes Lucasfilm, ILM, THX, LucasArts, Skywalker Sound, the Ranch, etc...

  16. Re:Hi by lvdrproject · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Sigh... either i'm looking harder, or people are getting lamer and lamer recently. While i'm obviously younger than you (which might bias me just a touch), allow me to explain something.

    You associate cartoons with childishness. Just because it's animated doesn't make it any less mature than your favourite live-action movie/TV series. There are many serious-minded, dramatic animated features ("Grave of the Fireflies", anyone?), and there are a number of advantages cartoons have over live action:

    Virtually-unlimited special effects budget. In animation, you don't have to pay millions upon millions of dollars to show someone jumping out of a huge time portal, or show some horrific monster eat a man whole, or show a squadron of soldiers firing laser cannons. This is as simple to create in animation as anything else.

    Character "casting". You don't have to hunt down the perfect actor/actress with the perfect weight, the perfect hair colour, the perfect voice, the perfect skin colour, etc., etc., in animation. You just draw the character the way you want him/her to appear, and there s/he is.

    Idealism. The world just doesn't work the way some people want it to. You can't change the laws of physics, every single person you find won't be attractive, etc.. Cartoons work the way you want them to, whether they're realistic, deep, moving depictions of life (like many anime series/movies), or goofy, childish Saturday-morning cartoons (which can be masterpieces, despite their childishness).

    What does the fact that you perform the same tasks as any other adult (and some teenagers) have anything to do with cartoons or video games? Seems to me like you've been brainwashed by some of the "intelligent" connoisseur types who associate these things with childishness/immaturity/unintelligence. This same phenomenon can be observed with Pokemon. The Game Boy games (which few who bash it have even played) are actually quite fun, and aren't really any more childish than any other game. What started this whole "Pokemon is for kids, you fanboy losers" thing is the fact that some American corporations saw that Pokemon made money, and they milked it for all that they could. They sold dolls, they sold stuffed animals, they sold cards, they sold McDonald's toys. THAT is why people hate Pokemon. If it had gone on as a regular Game Boy game like any other Game Boy game, nobody would've given it a second thought. Same thing happened to cartoons.

    Anyway, video games, Harry Potter, anime, and cartoons are forms of entertainment, no different than your favourite band, your favourite TV show, or your favourite book. If it ENTERTAINS you, it's served its purpose.

    :Lav

  17. from one of the scripts? by zephc · · Score: 5, Funny

    (Luke is busy working on a piece of machinery)

    Leia: "HI LUKE!!!!!"

    (Luke tumbles from the shock of surprise)

    Luke: "Leia, what do you want? I wish you would leave, because you are so STUUUPID. You are dumb and you are stuuupid."

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    1. Re:from one of the scripts? by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Funny
      Hey it could be worse:

      Luke: Our first clue was when Obi-Wan said that Darth was a Jedi who'd gone over to the dark side. At first, we didn't read anything into it. But then...

      Leia: Then we found this scrap of paper in the Ewok's treehouse. It said "L ke I m y r fath".

      Han Solo: Like that made any sense.

      Chewbacca: Huh-hehe-huh-huh. Woooaaaaaa. Sh-aggy!

      (The kids laugh and Solo throws Chewbacca a wookie-snack)

      Luke: We then got the final clue when Yoda told us almost all the Jedis had been killed when the dark side took over. We realised that Darth Vader had to be..."

      Chief Wiggum removes Vader's Mask.

      All: Annakin Skywalker, Aka Luke's Father!

      Darth: And I'd have got clean away with it too if it wasn't for these meddlin' kids and their wookie.

      Wiggum: Take him away boys!

      Homer Simpson: I guess you'll be running along to solve another crime in your "Mystery Falcon".

      Chewbacca: Huh-hehe-huh-huh. Woooaaaaaaaaa.

      Chewbacca takes a step forward and trips over the body of the emperor, causing him to flip backwards and knock over a big pile of light sabers. Everyone chortles. Closing credits.

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  18. Voice acting by yerricde · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You don't have to hunt down the perfect actor/actress with the perfect weight, the perfect hair colour, the perfect voice, the perfect skin colour, etc., etc., in animation. You just draw the character the way you want him/her to appear, and there s/he is.

    Do you discount the importance of a good voice actor? In some respects, voice acting is harder than traditional stage/screen acting.

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  19. Umm...different details. by fireboy1919 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Like making people look like people.

    Dexter is roughly the shape of a pill. Dee-dee and her friends have all of her limbs extending from a single point. All legs look like they did in the flintstones - like pipes that have a turn and end with a round stub (the turn is where the feet begin).

    Almost nobody has any noses, or the noses look very strange. Also, no one has normal looking hands - very few have thumbs, or a full complement of fingers (10 total). The powerpuff girls have no hands and no feet. Samurai Jack is a little better, but still...there is very little detail in the characters. Jack himself has fingers that are apparently glued together, since they never seem to separate. Also, his four fingers are all the same length, unlike human fingers (his thumb is opposable, they show that when he holds a sword).

    I would expect a Star Wars Universe to be much more lifelike since its based upon a live action universe, with, at the very least, five fingers on each hand, and the ability to move them the way humans do, and normally drawn noses. I don't expect that it'll happen because I think it costs more.

    Which means really, really bad reviews, I think.

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