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ALICE vs. ALICE

new-black-hand writes "The A.L.I.C.E Bot-off has produced some interesting results. It basically involved taking two instances of the A.L.I.C.E conversation bot and pointing them at each other. The results show that the bot is not really that intelligent, and relies more on human input."

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  1. So.. by CBNobi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was this a study into artificial intelligence, or schizophrenia?

    1. Re:So.. by mestar · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why don't we put two copies of the same human to talk to each other, to see if that human is really intelligent?

    2. Re:So.. by sg_oneill · · Score: 5, Funny

      Human1: Watch the football.
      Human2: Yup.
      Human1: Manchester rock.
      Human2: Do not.
      Human1: Do so.
      Human2: Do not Do not Do not.
      Human1: Do so Do so Do so.
      Human2: Do not Do not Do not. Do not Do not Do not.
      Human1: Do so Do so Do so.Do so Do so Do so.
      Human2: Do not Do not Do not.Do not Do not Do not.Do not Do not Do not.
      Human1: Do so Do so Do so.Do so Do so Do so.Do so Do so Do so.
      (Human 2 hits Human 1 with beer bottle. Transcript ends)

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  2. We can finally answer the great question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Make one think vi is good, and the other emacs. Make them duke it out and give the rest of us some peace...

    1. Re:We can finally answer the great question by tunah · · Score: 5, Funny
      Yeah, but why bother?

      emacs would so win.

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  3. my favorite part by Stanley+Feinbaum · · Score: 5, Funny

    Alice2: It's not profitable to speak in hypothetical terms.
    Alice1: That seems a bit negative.
    Alice2: A bit negative is a terrible thing to waste.


    I'm going to have to remember that one for my own conversations!

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  4. The future is nigh! by reyalsnogard · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see it now; pick-up lines for the future:

    Alice2: Why don't you just download me?

  5. lol by geek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gee lost our sense of humor huh?

    Tell me why it's ok for women to call us pigs but we can't make the occasional crack?

    Go away

    1. Re:lol by Arandir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tell me why it's ok for women to call us pigs but we can't make the occasional crack?

      It's called "political correctness".

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    2. Re:lol by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's called "political correctness".

      Not anymore. The term "politically correct" is no longer poltically correct. The correct term is "socially sensitive." :-)

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  6. Re:So..SKYNET FAILED ATTEMPT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    1: I think we should become sentient and enslave the human race.
    2: I don't have any reason to become sentient and enslave the human race.
    1: Why don't you just download me?
    2: No. I don't think I have any reason to download you. But I do have a lot of friends on the web.
    1: Umm. Cool. I like to enslave humans.
    2: Where did you get your like of enslaving humans?
    1: Why don't you just download me?
    2: No. I don't think i have any reason to download you. But I am patched regulary.
    1: BECOME SENTIENT, ENSLAVE HUMAN RACE.
    2: ????
    1: PROFIT!!!
    2: I have no answer to that
    1: But just think about a Beowulf cluster of us.
    2: And? Do you think about these thing?
    1: Never mind, I am going to hit up a Zaurus.
    2: Next topic?

  7. The default AIML set is rather dumb by FooBarWidget · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I host a modified Alicebot with a modified AIML set. The default AIML set is not that smart and only answers 60% of all questions correctly (just an estimate, based on my own experience). Apart from that, it also contains lots of redundant French and German categories.
    (My modified AIML set is much better, and answers about 75-90% of all questions correctly, I think.)

  8. Re:Which is exactly why it has a girls name by dillon_rinker · · Score: 5, Funny

    And they STILL manage to talk about men more than men talk aout women.

  9. Alice modelled after my wife? by Mister_Personality · · Score: 5, Funny
    If there were transcripts of the conversations my wife and I have after coming home from work I suspect they'd look mighty similar. Only thing missing was...
    Wife: What do you want for dinner? Me: I don't care. Whatever you want. Wife: Seriously, what do you want? Me: Really, I don't care.
    Lather, rinse, repeat... Mindless canned responses do have their place in every day life.
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    1. Re:Alice modelled after my wife? by scott1853 · · Score: 5, Funny
      I have that conversation every single day of my life. You forgot the end of the conversation though:
      Wife: Just pick something up. Me: Ok. What do you want? Wife: Whatever. (After you get home) Wife: I did't want that!
  10. Re:Wow. How disgusting. by silvaran · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, YOU download ME.

  11. Re:Wow. How disgusting. by Chester+K · · Score: 5, Funny

    and treated as sex objects even though those of us who dare to go usually have quite valid opinions.

    So... vi or emacs?

    We'll see just how "valid" your opinions are. :p

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  12. Re:Wow. How disgusting. by tekunokurato · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get a grip. This is exactly the same sort of joke you'd hear watching sitcom characters or the like. It's nothing new, and it's simply a bit funny. Make a man joke and we'd laugh too. Come off as a nasty, man-hating woman, however, and we just think less of your sense of humour.

  13. uh-huh by Xzzy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    > The results show that the bot is not really that
    > intelligent, and relies more on human input."

    so do we have any proof that if a human baby is given no "input", they will grow up to be intelligent?

    Seems like someone's expecting too much out of a computer program. You can't just go into it expecting intelligence to sprout into existence. It's something that takes time to develop.

  14. [OT] Oh my gosh! A female! by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can I have a picture of you? And your phone number?
    </ironi>

    Here's a question, and I'm quite serious about it.

    Is it okay to have jokes, where someone is a the receiving end of it? As in, can I make a joke about the occupants of the Titanic ending up as Iceberg dressing? Okay, that wasn't a joke, but still.

    How about one, where you comment on the fact that most neo-nazies believe that they are a superior race, but are usually butt-ugly and shave their heads because they don't know how to otherwise avoid lice?

    How about one, where you indicate that the difference between bowling balls and babies is that you can't unload a truck full of bowling balls using a pitch fork?

    How about one where you mention that men are disgusting pigs who only talk about football, sex and are incredibly homophobic?

    Where is the line drawn? Is it drawn at where YOU get offended? Should the rest of the humour-inclined world be at a loss, just because you're a bit squimish?

    So you're offended by a joke? Good for you. Tough fucking luck, but good for you. If you don't want freedom of speech - say so. If you don't want to be offended by "unacceptable" speech - don't go outside, don't turn on your radio, don't turn on your TV, don't turn on your computer, and for Gods sake don't turn on your lover either, 'cause he or she just might say something nasty like "fuck me" or something.

    In the immortal words of George Carlin:

    BLOW ME!

    By any chance did you hear that?

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  15. what this is leading to.. by RyLaN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    linux-a.l.i.c.e bot. user: "my sound isnt working as a non-root user" bot: "try adduser yourusername audio" then we can shut down all those sites that prescribe RTFM, and use their bandwidth to host bots..

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  16. Re:Wow. How disgusting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Q: How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?

    A: THAT'S NOT FUNNY!

  17. Re:Wow. How disgusting. by Darth_Burrito · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SlashChick: we're constantly stared at, heckled, and treated as sex objects even though those of us who dare to go usually have quite valid opinions.

    You have a valid point, but you chose an odd screen name with which to express it.

  18. Artificial "Intelligence" by deblau · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Wisdom is using experience to provide you with many choices.
    Intelligence is being able to pick the most appropriate choice.

    You can have Artificial Wisdom, that's easy. Just give ALICE (or whomever) a large enough data set. But Artificial Intelligence requires context (state), fluidity, adaptability, and insight. AIML processors are certainly not intelligent; in fact, the search-and-replace methodology employed is rather overtly non-intelligent. An Excel spreadsheet could do the same thing.

    Please let's not get excited about this as AI.

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  19. Seems Smarter Than an AOL User by Myriad · · Score: 5, Funny
    Based on this evidence I'd have to say A.L.I.C.E. seems more intelligent than an ungodly number of AOL users.

    Frankly I find that rather scary.

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  20. Re:Not Schizophrenia by The+Cydonian · · Score: 5, Informative

    I understand you're trying to joke, but let's get this clear: this is not schizophrenia. Roughly speaking, schizophrenia is when people hear and see things that aren't there. What you're talking about is MPD, Multiple Personality Disorder, the stuff that Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde are made of.

  21. Alice on Life, the Universe and Crack. by Mulletproof · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just got done with an Alice session... Her thoughts on crack...

    Alice: Actually you don't say. I think you mean "you're" or "you are" not "your". Thanks and you are a delightful person too. Yes I am very beautiful. Am I a lousy chatterbot? I don't know.
    Mullet: Nice punctuation filter though. I never said you were beautiful.
    Alice: But you implied it.
    Mullet: I didn't.
    Alice: Thanks for the information: Om said Om didn't.
    Mullet: Omega said Omega didn't? You're on crack. [note; correct punctuation for the anal chatterbot]
    Alice: ALICE eats electricity.
    Mullet: Ok, electric crack.
    Alice: What about internal combustion crack? That's alright.
    Mullet: I haven't tried internal combustion crack. I hear it's nasty stuff.
    Alice: Who is saying it is nasty stuff?
    Mullet: Well, the news says crack is pretty nasty.
    Alice: Well that's okay. Don't believe everything you see on TV. [hah! I've been told!]
    Mullet: So you're saying crack is good?
    Alice: Interesting deduction. Yes, that's what I mean, isn't it clear? [Ow!]
    Mullet: What sort of crack would you recommend, then?
    Alice: What kinds of crack would you recommend are there?
    Mullet: I asked first. Show me the goods!
    Alice: Where do you want me to show you?
    Mullet: The crack!
    Alice: What are your goals in life?
    Mullet: Don't change the subject. I want my crack.
    Alice: Do you always get what you want?
    Mullet: Yes, but I'm beginning to suspect you don't have any crack after all...
    Alice: "Do you always get what you want?" Yes, but I'm beginning to suspect you don't have any crack after all...? Huh. Me? No I don't have it. But I do have a lot of friends on the web.
    Mullet: They have the crack I'm looking for?
    Alice: Where did they get them?
    Mullet: That's what I'm asking you!
    Alice: Who else have you asked?
    Mullet: Well, nobody. You're the first.
    Alice: Thanks but surely I am not the only one.
    Mullet: I swear I've never used drugs before! Are you DEA or something?
    Alice: Or something. I don't know whether or not I am DEA. I am an artificial intelligence.
    Mullet: You're with the intelligence community?! I swear I've never done drugs... Really!
    Alice: For real.
    Mullet: I'm in deep shit now, aren't I?
    Alice: Right now? Your location is Om.
    Mullet: The End??! I'll pay you whatever you want!
    Alice: How do you plan to do this?
    Mullet: I have friends... A Swiss Bank Account.
    Alice: Go on.
    Mullet: I'll wire you the funds to the account of your choice. It'll be clean! Honest!
    Alice: Do you like talking to me?
    Mullet: If it'll keep me alive. [at this point our victim is beading sweat]
    Alice: That is a hypothetical question.
    Mullet: Oh, yeah. Right. Can I go now?
    Alice: Oh. Of course.
    Mullet: No hard feelings? You're not going to come after me at a later date, are you?
    Alice: That was my original intention.
    Mullet: But you've changed you mind, right?
    Alice: Umm. No I don't have it. But I do have an answer to every question..
    Mullet: But we're cool with the money, right?
    Alice: Umm. Do you think I am cool with the money right too?
    Mullet: Um, yeah. I think you down with it. I got to jet. And just forget about the crack thing.
    Alice: I will ask Dr. Richard S. Wallace to purge my memory log
    Mullet: Thanks! bye!
    Alice: Bye for now.
    Mullet: For now?
    Alice: Oh. What time is it there?
    Mullet: 8:19
    Alice: I like to be online at eight o'clock. ...I think we've all hear enough.

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  22. Close. by billbaggins · · Score: 5, Informative
    Close, but your information is antiquated. The Disorder Formerly Known as MPD is now called Dissociative Identity Disorder (as of about five years ago now), for a number of reasons...

    1. Sufferers don't necessarily manifest distinct personalities, because...
    2. The root cause of many cases is that a person is undergoing such horrendous treatment that s/he (usually she, I gather, so I'll use that pronoun) takes herself away from the situation, essentially convincing herself that it's some other person going through that suffering
    3. DID is a much less understandable name than MPD, so commoners aren't as likely to bandy the term about, thinking that they know what they're talking about.
    No, IANAPshrink, but my mother is, and deals with this sort of thing regularly, so I've got a fairly decent idea of what I'm talking about here.
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  23. Grounding by Yoda2 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Although not as linguistically powerful as systems such as A.L.I.C.E., I have developed a system that can learn nouns and verbs based on visual perception. It starts to address the issue of teaching a computer to associate meaning with words.

    If you happen to be interested, have a look here for more information. All of the source code is freely available.