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Real PDA Wristwatch

Larry Groebe writes "Just before COMDEX, Fossil announced a new PDA in a wristwatch. Based on the Palm OS, this is nothing less than a complete Palm Pilot on your wrist. See here for features and a picture. This is completely UNLIKE Fossil's *first* attempt at a wrist PDA, which was a hopeless view-only gadget. This new model allows regular Graffiti input and appears to run all Palm programs! At $149, I may be the first in line when it comes out next spring."

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  1. Linux watch by tsa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Cool. This brings to mind the Linux watch IBM made some time ago. Does anyone know what's become of that? Is it still in development or was it just a showpiece?

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    1. Re:Linux watch by GoRK · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It was a research project.

      The interesting thing about this watch, though, is that the dragonball ports of ucLinux run on palm already, so this watch with it's (likely dragonball ez) cpu will run linux out of the box.

    2. Re:Linux watch by Nos. · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was at our LUG's first annual Expo a week or so ago (www.losurs.org/expo) and Jim Elliot from IBM was there. He said they are still working on it, but trying to bring the price down. They had hoped to release it for this holiday season, but it won't happen. I think they're now targetting this time next year.

  2. still fails.. by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and like all the other pda/pc watches it's missing one crucial feature...

    WATERPROOF!

    Why cant they throw in that small and desperately needed thing? It must be waterproof... so I can wear it swimming,snorkling,in the shower... how about just in the shower/tub without fear of it getting killed?

    why cant they do that?

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    1. Re:still fails.. by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, I believe no modern watch claims to be "waterproof", it's always "water resistant to xx meters". This is certainly more accurate, since nothing is truly "waterproof" given enough pressure.

      I am curious, though: Does anyone have a watch purchased in the last 15-20 years that claims to be "waterproof"?

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  3. silly little stylus by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Would anyone seriously use the dinky little stylus that's part of the band? Talk about an ergonomic nightmare (and a choking hazard). Why not just include a selectable-point pen with every watch, that will let you switch between blue/black/red ink and a stylus? That seems to make much more sense from an actual functionality standpoint than that tiny stylus, letting you use the PDA concurrently and seamlessly with more traditional dead-tree technology.

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    1. Re:silly little stylus by spotter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      on the IBM linux watch our experiments seemed to imply that using a wheel that you could scroll around (selecting things) and also "click" was a good comprimise, however, one cant do everything that one would do with a palm w/ a device like that.

      It's like a tradeoff b/w those REX pcmcia devices and a full fledged palm. Do you want something that you aren't going to do full fledged input on (but can input things into), but is mostly for info retrieval, or something that you actually want to do lots of input into.

  4. Ubergeeky ubertiny uber not for me. by tinrobot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Never went in for calculators on my hips or wrists - this seems like the logical extension of that sort of geekwear. Not the kind of fashion statement I want to make.

    Plus - it's sooooo tiny, don't think I could read it anyways.

    Next!

  5. Lefties? by bziman · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Waterproof is important... but for something like this, it would also be nice to have a left-handed model -- or a reversible model. I'm sure their engineers could do that. It would suck to have to use the rocker-control with my left thumb instead of my index finger, like designed.

    And what's with the two hour battery life?

    Otherwise, very very cool.

  6. an aggressive strike by Gizzmonic · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Although Fossil brought Palm to the table for this one, does anyone else get the distinct impression that they might be making an end-run into the PDA market?

    Fossil is a hugely popular brand (they even have Fossil stores in airports!) and with the low margins on watches, they might be looking for a new market. I mean, right now, any Taiwanese sweatshop can put together a POS digital watch, hell, some kid in his garage could do that.

    Remember when watches only had an hour and a minute hand? And then all of a sudden, they had a second hand, and now the date, several time zones, "chrono" mode and other stuff.

    The PDA is the next step in complexity and "needed" features for a wristwatch. If Fossil were to come out with its own Palmtop OS, or maybe even take Opie or something, they could ink a deal with a few fortune 500 companies just with the force of their name.

    And what happens at "What's up Wednesday" when your technology-fetishizing boss passes out a gaggle of huge PDA-watches to all the gals in accounting? I think you may have to start firing up the copy machine to print out resumes!

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  7. Re:screen size... Questions answered. by Frobnicator · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The cnet link answered the questions.

    It does have the regular screen, but they modified the default apps to have bigger icons. Even so, it would have about .2 mm pixels; way to small to be useful. With even the .5 mm mechanical pencils you would end up always hitting multiple pixels on the digitizer.

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  8. Ah yes, but Nokia have a Videphone watch coming by Wonderkid · · Score: 3, Interesting
    And that's from someone I know who works at the firm.

    In addition, I was on a train from Paddington Station in London, England this week, and got to see an actual 3G phone working. An employee was testing it (yes, there is a nearly complete 3G network in the UK). The phone was from a Japanese manufacturer, had twin cameras and a very high quality feel. But what blew me away, and this will mean the death of ALL OTHER phones the moment this puppy is launched in the UK in a few months is the fact that it has a PIP (Picture In Picture) feature thanks to the two cameras. The other person sees your face in a window in front of the view you can see, or the other way around. The video quality was at least 10 fps, and the killer app will be shopping. "Dahling, is this the wine you wanted me to get?" And of course, there will be the drunk twit who forgets he has a videophone and while at the bar with a cute chic in view calls his wife to say he will be home late because he's working late at the office. (What he meant to say was orifice.)

    (All the above is true. I am not revealing my sources, but within 3 months, everything is going to change. Goodbye privacy. Everyone will be in view of someone's video phone at some point every week. Get out the lipstick baby!)

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  9. Misleading... by WeirWolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Shouldn't they call this a wrist pilot?

    -Chris

  10. Re:I was "THAT guy" by SN74S181 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't know that we were all that guy.

    There might be some people from Sun Microsystems here.

    Scot McNeely at Sun is/was a hockey player, and he keeps that sort of guys around him.

    He was the guy who slammed you up against the lockers.

  11. waterproof by sg3000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > Actually, I believe no modern watch claims to be
    >"waterproof", it's always "water resistant to xx meters"

    Rolex Oyster Perpetual watches are designated as "waterproof": From their website: "An Officially Certified Swiss Chronometer, the Rolex Oyster Perpetual is equipped with a waterproof case, a sapphire crystal and a self-winding movement." Sorry, their site is too annoying to navigate, so I can't give an actual link.

    Urban legend used to say that this was because Rolex trademarked the phrase "waterproof", so everyone else had to use "water resistant." I'm not sure if this is the case (I've never seen them stick TM at the end of the phrase in their literature), but the reason could be that Rolex watches are made a little differently than a regular watch.

    Rolex Oyster watches are cast all in one piece or slug, rather than assembled from multiple pieces. As a result, when the watch is put together, it is basically sealed. The result is rather heavy -- to give you an idea, take off your shoe, attach that to your wrist, and then walk around for a while -- but they're built to last.

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    1. Re:waterproof by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Interestingly, one of the Oyster watches (I didn't take note of which one, you're right that site is very annoying): "Waterproof to 100 metres/330 feet, all models are fitted with a crystal crafted from a solid block of synthetic sapphire that is virtually scratchproof."

      100 meters is no better than a decent quality casio.

      On the other hand, the "Submariner" is "waterproof" to 300 meters or 1000 feet. That's more impressive. That's a lot pressure.

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  12. timex datalink by asv108 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone remember the Timex Datalink?. It wasn't a full fledged PDA, but it was really cool back in 1996. The watch would read bars on the monitor to dowload information from the PC. It was a nice way to keep track of phone numbers and Appointments.

  13. Re:screen size... Questions answered. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    .2 mm pixels; way to small to be useful. With even the .5 mm mechanical pencils you would end up always hitting multiple pixels on the digitizer.

    When have you needed to address individual pixels in the normal course of PDAing?! Certainly not for Graffiti or selecting icons or widgets.

  14. Don't dulplicate desktop stuff to mobile device by taoguy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We keep duplicating desktop User Interface (UI) metaphor to mobile device, i.e., copy GUI, web stuffs to PDA, cellular phone and now, watch. Come on, it wouldn't work well. We need an innovative UI for mobile device. I don't know what it will be. But I do know it wouldn't be GUI stuff. Probably audio based UI.