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Demise Of The Premier .NET community site
Seems like something has horribly gone wrong at ASPFriends.com. The site is being closed as a result of a break down in negotiations with Microsoft over support for funding this developer community forum which has over 73000 members who post over 12 million messages a month regarding MS development. The primary reason for this break down seems to be do with the contract that had to be signed to receive funding. I'm no lawyer and I've not seen the entire contract but it seems like it contains clauses which basically state "at our discretion, with 30 days notice we can terminate this contract and take ownership of your site".
This kinda shit happens simply because MS is run by lawyers and marketers, each and every time MS will choose short term gain over a long term beneficial relationship. Partners, developers, customers, MS will screw you over if it means they can make a quick buck.
And I use MS products for 90% of my development, perhaps it is time to pick up some books on competitors instead...
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Good products are only a part of the overall make up of a good company. It is just too bad that this guy had to learn the hard way that, despite their public party line, Microsoft is only happy when they're in full control, running the show.
If you step out of line or play even one note off key, they kick you out of the orchestra and confiscate your instrument. Never mind that you paid for it yourself. They own it now.
I'm glad he didn't sign that contract, but I'm sad that he has to loose not only his years of work, but the motivation to support his community.
Even if it is a Microsoft community. Maybe some day he'll get into a better community with a company that will nurture his zeal.
Kalen D'arrie
First, he is ethical. Which is at the root of the free software movement.
I guess he could not see the kind of redmond actions his site is suffering right now because he must have blinded himself due to his total devotion and defense to MS products. Being the one to be hurt always make things easier to understand.
Yet, as he points out, he could go and get bought, or he could go on and continue to support his site that way, but prefers to shut it down due to ethical reason. Good man.
Second. He has built a serious community site through a lot of efforts which is also the core of the free software efforts. Apparently, redmond can cope with this kind of behavior (too independant for them, probably) despite recent speeches about community spirit.
Third, such a fine man, could be very usefull in helping some projects in getting what they lack, the kind of features that made this man stick to redmond so long. There must be something real in his praises of their products and too often, unix cultured people dont get that kind of "things".
But he still links to asp.net forums despite all they just did to him.
Well, he probably dreams in a "deus ex machina" Gates, coming down from his tower and putting things together, because he is "Doing the right thing and letting Ms know when its own employees hurt it's reputation is vital.". Yes, it must be "some employee", it can't be the compagny as a whole.
That is his flaw probably. He still dont get that what is happening to him is the spirit of redmond activity and has been the key to their success since the beginning.
Repeat after me:"extend and embrace; or strangle to death."
So we might see a redmond move to correct this situation, but it will be a one time pr move. The kind of "redmond make a deal with peru government" move.
Because I ain't penniless and I control the DNS/Internic records. I will keep the domain names forever and keep the story of the rise and fall there as a warning to others who build MS communities.
They can certainly do it under different domain names, but the Simpson's quote "that reeks of effort" comes to mind. They are being pretty lazy in the forums and while the code and interface are whizbang the human touch and effort is missing. Stealing it means running it and they prefer the forums not email and parallel newsgroups.
I don't care whether MS pays for it - their customers are affected mostly and it is one less thing for me to do each month :) I was going to close it a while ago for a varity of reasons and MS contacted me and insisted that it should stay and they wanted to support it through June of 2003 no strings attached. Then they chaed their mind.
I am 100% fine with them not supporting it and breaking their promise, and the story ends in December and I am 100% fine with that.
I just made the FAQ to let people know why it closes then. It affects 73,000 people and they deserve a true accounting as to why it closed.
I learned a lot and invented a lot of new moderation tools like Our Moderate Tool and many useful private tools that make mailing list easy to manage. I intend to launch a bunch of very low volume lists using those tool in areas in non-MS ares I love that don't have such a large audience that the server capacity has to be so high and costly.
The big mistake this guy made was a completely natural one: he confused culture with market share. In our society we place almost no value on non-owner participation. No matter what something may mean to you personally, no matter how much energy you may put into promoting it, no matter how much the owners materially profit from your efforts, it's still 100% theirs and 0% yours, and they can take it away from you at a whim.
Companies love you to be a cheerleader for Version 1 until Version 2 comes out, then you are supposed to abandon Version 1 and embrace Version 2. Britney is out, Samantha is in. Your website must shut down. Not because you did anything wrong. They just don't need you any more. You were an asset, now your loyalty to their previous products is competition. You're in the way.
Save your loyalty and devotion for your family and friends, your ideals and your personal standards -- the parts of your culture that can't be owned by others or taken away.