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Mozilla 1.2 Unleashed
asa writes "Mozilla 1.2 has just been released. New to this version are features like Type Ahead Find, basic toolbar customization (text/icons/both), support for GTK themes on Linux, multiple tabs as startpage,
Link Prefetching, "filter after the fact" and filter logging in Mail, Palm sync for Mozilla addressbook on MS Windows, and more. This is the latest stable release from mozilla.org, and all users of Mozilla 1.0, Mozilla 1.0.1, Mozilla 1.1 or any of the alpha/beta/release candidates are encouraged to upgrade to this release. You can get builds and more info at the Mozilla releases page and you can find daily Mozilla news and discussion at mozillaZine.org."
I'm using Phoenix in Linux but Mozilla in Mac OS X.
Mozilla is a good, stable browser with lot's of plugins available. It you have a fast computer it's probably a better choice than Phoenix.
Ciryon
For those of you who are interested, here is a link to the new roadmap
source: mozillazine.org
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Actually, as Phoenix is a cut-down version of Mozilla, it means we shall soon "type ahead" with it too.
BTW, Mozilla is better for those who also want an integrated mailer, we're not discussing the very same app, here...
Trolling using another account since 2005.
I don't know if that was a play on words or a reference to Type Ahead Find, but either way Type Ahead Find is a feature of the latest Phoenix milestone.
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I don't really see what all the fuss is about, I'm using XFT builds for Redhat 8 that Blizzard puts out and they're snappy and look great. I did try Phoenix when I was on Windows, but found it to be no faster than Mozilla but with fewer features. I might try it again in a bit, but Moz is just fine for me.
I'm waiting on Galeon 2 myself, at least then it'll integrate well with gnome.
In case you weren't aware, a new Flash player for GNU/Linux
has been released too. It's recommended that you upgrade to this version if you're
going to use Mozilla 1.2. Unfortunately, audio seems
to be broken (at least for me under Mandrake GNU/Linux 8.1).
I've filed a bug report with Macromedia about this. Keep
it in mind if you upgrade.
To reply to the parent's parent, Phoenix still needs things like a security manager. But it's getting there...
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
less than 7% of my million monthly hits are something other than Internet Explorer
it's a damn shame esp. when Mozilla is now the superior product.
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
What happened to it? The last time this worked was around 0.95 or so. Having to restart to change themes is, for one thing, primitive, and another, a pain in the butt.
Anybody know what's going on here?
Life's a bitch but somebody's gotta do it.
Why is it that they all go in for GTK/GNOME not QT/KDE? Are the latter combination more difficult to integrate? Something about the QT license? Better mktg by the GNOME guys?
Something about the QT license. It's GPL or proprietary (it's your choice), while LGPL (the license of GTK) is more corporate-friendly.
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Sure. You want a web browser these days, you use Phoenix. You want a "communications suite" that lets you chat, send email, etc, you get Mozilla. Different goals.
Of course, since you change a single #define and then compile Moz to get Phoenix, I'm not sure that you can really say that you aren't using Mozilla...
May we never see th
Also:
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Free iPods - now in the UK!
Please use the netinstaller (~250kb) which would find a closest mirror for you automatically to download.
One of the last uses I had for explorer was to browse CNN. Mozilla 1.1 had problems formatting HTML on some (most) CNN articles;
Upgraded, tested, and now it works like a charm. What is that procedure to remove IE again?
Is that prefetch thing such a good idea?
:)
For example, it will prefetch a document from another host that the one you're browsing. In the FAQ they say that they don't see that as a security risk. But I really don't like the idea that I could be tricked into prefetching stuff I don't want by a simple HTML tag (goatse, copyrighted material and other illegal stuff).
Yes it can be disabled but not from the GUI preferences, so many people won't even notice it.
Well I'm probably just being paranoid.
True warriors use the Klingon Google
In the case of Mozilla, they needed a lightweight windowing system abstraction (on top of which they built their own set of widgets), and gdk was the right choice. GDK is a layer underneath Gtk, and it provides a lightweight portability system sitting directly on Xlib. Qt (AFAIK) has something similar, but Qt's portability layer is canvas-like (again AFAIK), which isn't so convenient if all you want is simplified drawing primitives.
OO.O is benefitting from Ximian work, and that naturally involves GNOME.
Sun/HP/the rest of the CDE people wanted something that can easily replace Motif in all the places where Motif appears. Since this means a lot of legacy pure-C apps, Gtk seemed a natural choice, too.
So in each case, it was a different issue, rather than a single, obviously decisive feature.
As for the technical differences, yes, Gtk and Qt are different, but not as much as the advocates of either like to think (personally I prefer Gtk/GNOME, but the only strong technical reasons I can name are bonobo-activation, atk and gstreamer systems, which I consider uber-cool, but not absolutely essential).
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I refuse to use
Take a look at the Thunderbird/Minotaur Project.
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I can't believe they still haven't incorporated "single window mode" into the built-in tabbed browsing features of Mozilla. Every person I've talked into trying Mozilla wants to know why windows still open all over the place when they're using tabbed-browsing mode. Instructing them to go find an obscure plug-in, and then configure it, is not an acceptable solution for Joe Mousepad.
P.S. The default theme is impossibly ugly. ORBIT
// I will show you fear in a handful of jellybeans.
Me: You can't use IE! It's unsafe and bad for you!
Wife: But I like it better than Mozilla! Mozilla just doesn't feel like home to me!
Me: You don't understand, IE is BAD for you!
Wife: But...
Me: Bzzz! BAD!
Wife: You insensitive asshole! Why can't you understand when you are hurting my feelings.
I forsee a new book by John Gray: Mozilla is from Mars, IE is from Venus.
hightlight an area of a page, right click and there's an option to "View selection source". which opens the html source and cues it to the area you had selected.
Mozilla is IMHO, the best available.
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The Mozilla html editor is TOP NOTCH. It has never crashed on me. The code it produces is human readable! If you just want a quick, straight-forward HTML page, it is the way to go. Pheonix can't do that.
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Remember that Mozilla is two things, a browser and a development platform.
You bring up an interesting point. If I may nitpick, I've always held that "Mozilla" is two things: a development platform first and a internet communications suite second.
You say "browser," I say "internet communications suite." What's the difference? Well, the former renders web pages but the latter lets you do that and then some. Calling Mozilla (the software) just a browser is like calling Microsoft Office a word processor or calling a PalmPilot an electronic addressbook. When I mean to talk about the portion of Mozilla that renders web pages, I try to refer to it as Mozilla Navigator. Likewise for Mozilla Mail & News, Mozilla Composer, Mozilla Addressbook, and Chatzilla. Referring to these components by names can clear up a lot of confusion that some people have, especially those who aren't familiar with the whole Mozilla project.
Not that I'm going to *insist* that people correct their naming conventions, it's just that my method makes more sense to me.
That doesn't seem like proper behavior, you're right. File a bug at bugzilla.mozillla.org. That's the best way to get things changed in most open source projects (besides fixing it yourself)
"Sometimes, I think Trent just needs a cup of hot chocolate and a blankie." -Tori Amos on Nine Inch Nails
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172097
online secure banking that works in Mozilla 1.1 may not work in Mozilla 1.2. It seems that Moz 1.2 does not send cookies to HTTPS sites, thus preventing some kinds of authentication.
Until this problem is fixed, people who use online banking etc. should stick to Moz 1.1.
Phoenix doesn't build whatever I've tried. So I use Mozilla. Mostly.
I've stopped using Mozilla mail client, once Evolution evolved finally to what it is now - Outlook killer for Linux users.
I am not interesting in plugins, but, very rarely, when there is no way arount to get to the site rather than through stupid flash - I use Opera. On the same platform with the same plugin binaries Opera works. Mozilla doesn't. I mean Mozilla doesn't work with plugins out of the box - the best is it shows the flash (somehow, in ery bad quality), but any mouse click on it sends Mozilla to the crash.
Basically, the only way to call Mozilla 1.x stable is when you don't use it for anything else besides HTML browsing. Everything else (mail, calendar, custom built XUL forms) will crash Mozilla sooner or later. With HTML it's oppositely different - it shows more than 20 tabs in 3-5 windows for weeks on my testing Linux box without crashing. And if it's getting slower - I just restart (close-open-load) some of tabs. Opera is far bellow such stability level. With HTML.
Everything above is true for Linux. On Windows, I use Mozilla with plugins without such problems - it's stable. And when I name plugins, I mean Flash and Java. So, the problem with plugins is the problem with Linux binary plugin code, not with Mozilla. Perhaps, both Macromedia and Sun have no interest in Linux platform, but have very strong interest to keep their source code closed.
P.S. But why Opera (by the way, also distributed in binary code) works with same binary plugins better than Mozilla?
Less is more !
As subject, if you look under the Red_Hat_8x_RPMS folder in the mozilla-1.2 directory, there is now two folders: vanilla and xft , with pre-built RPMs! Get them now from a mirror...
Now if only I'd waited a couple of hours ;-)
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