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News from ApacheCon US 2002
pdw writes "Apache Week this week has a feature detailing the happenings at last week's ApacheCon in Vegas. Read up to find out what's new in the world of Apache."
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der dert de dert der dert de dert dert dert. I'm the biggest douche in the world
First? I always wanted to be
"Latest News
ApacheCon US 2002 is over!"
With news like that, who needs to read more?
.. we are very happy to see you Dallas-producing Westerners are coming around to the benefits of the communist way of distributing software!
mogorific carpentry experiments
I expect good swag for any conference or seminar, whether or not it is a simple day seminar or something more elaborate. If there isn't the possibility of vendor treats, most IT monkeys don't go.
perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'
This sounds like one of those cases where speakers start to praise something and that something which is in reality relatively simple and easy to understand becomes godlike wisdom from heaven. Well, maybe it is just easy to get carried away when standing in front of thousands of people...but that's just too thick. :)
Isn't it ironic that ApacheCon is held at one of the few non-indian gambling meccas of the world? Why not ApacheCon on some indian reservation?
Did anyone else notice that if you look in the 'Related Links' box above that the first link 'Find programmers blah blah' is actually an ad? Banner ads are one thing, text ads are another thing, but text ads masquerading as useful content? Slashdot, you have overstepped the line!!
Yours Angrily,
Some Idiot
mogorific carpentry experiments
From ApacheCon Day 3: "Fowler noted the major contributions Sun has made not only to Apache and related projects such as Tomcat, but also in non-Apache related projects such as the Gnome desktop and OpenOffice.org."
I believe Sun is having a hard time finding a direction, right now. Hardware? Software? Work on free stuff? Beat Microsoft? I wonder where they are going to end up.
Sex - Find It
Well obviously by providing no real summary and an explanation for the link and including the name of a popular open source project, looks like we get to test!
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
I enjoyed reading about this event last week. Thanks to Micheal Radwin's blog
and hey, thanks for the tips!
I bet they end up sleeping with your mother.
It came from the star of an soybean. ... soy sauce is best."
He is the messenger of justice.
Food will become very delicious if soy sauce is poured instantly.
Fly in dining out! It is mortal work Kikko-panch!
"fried egg
Show me Show you Kikkoman...
It came from the star of an soybean.
Funky that guy is Kikkoman.
Soy sauce is good for the body.
There is also a sterilization action.
It does not become a comparison in sauce and catsup.
It is mortal work Kikko beam!
"Therefore, it must also have been told to egg baking that soy sauce
was the best!"
Show me Show you Kikkoman...
mod parent up pls
Sun's plan is to make billion$ off of selling the source code of the Solaris /bin/true command.
The truth is - they haven't got a clue.
Java has yet to make them any money.
Their Solaris hardware is grossly overpriced and underpowered.
The computer is the network is the computer?
N1 will save them somehow in time for them to be trounced by Linux clusters.
Gee, there's not a whole lot to comment on. Oh well, I'll give it my best shot.
These Apache guys code up a web server that's much better than Microsoft's IIS, by far, whew!
And they're a lot smarter than George Bush. Zing!
If moderation could change anything, it would be illegal.
A nice read, if a bit light, but I still have to wonder how the "Migrating to Apache 2.0" seminar went. I mean, I started my webserving hobby at the 2.0 stage, but I actually reverted back to 1.3.7 because most of the side projects that make Apache so versataile just aren't there yet. I am eager to upgrade to a 2.x series (technology for technology's sake...I love upgrading things just because), but at this time for a small website, I'm just not seeing the necessity.
:).
My point being, although I am coming to it in a roundabout fashion...what are the benefits for the average (or even above average) website migrating over to 2.0 at this time? Just seems sorta pointless to me right now.
Of course, that also goes back to the "Alpha Geeks" thing O'Reilly talked about. Hopefully the fully usable apache 2 goodness will filter down to my level sometime
What happened to Day 1? Does ApacheCon count in reverse? Did absolutely nothing interesting happen?
I believe Sun is having a hard time finding a direction, right now.
Maybe Sun has found their direction. I'm only speculating, but when Microsoft wants to improve their PR, they dump $100 million into India to fight AIDS. I look at Sun in a different light given their contributions to open source. Granted, their may be genuine interest by their employees to donate work and code to the open source community, which leads me to believe that this may not be simply a PR stunt. It's advantageous to Sun to be able to place their mark in software that they believe will eventually be in use by a great number of people (is that a run-on sentence?). I say bring it on. Whatever benefits us as a community benefits the whole, whether it's a group of individuals, or a giant corporation, donating their time and effort.
Well, I've noticed that the trolls on slashdot are some of the best in the world, and I'd like to congradulate them. I've been to a lot of other sites and forums, and you don't see nearly this level of trolling. I find it quite enjoyable to take a fresh site's virginity with a goatse link, or a page widener, all tricks learned from slashdot. Now what I would like to see is some of the trolls get organized and perhaps do some work together, trolling small sites out of business or something. We really do have a great power, after all this training on slashdot, and I think that we could make a difference if we work together.
TrollAxeThrower
Apache cons YOU!
There were actually a number of bloggers at ApacheCon aside from Michael Radwin - each with their own independent views/opinions (!) of what they saw/heard ;-) They provide a alternative perspective to Mr. Radwin's own blog. Here are a couple of others:
[you may have to skip to the dated entries Nov 19-22 - the conference really started with the first keynote on that Tuesday, there were tutorials only (extra $) on Monday]
Andy Oliver
Ugo Cei
Peter Royal
http://www.quicksand.ca/~maxx
enjoy!
...more people reply to the MS no-settlement article than to the beloved and much worshipped Apache article.
It's a slow-news-day for sure and, yes, news about a conference for apache geeks is about as thrilling as a barium enema. Go figure..
November 26, 2002 | Paul Thurrott
According to a new Aberdeen Group report, open-source solution Linux has surpassed Windows as the most vulnerable OS, contrary to the high-profile press Microsoft's security woes receive. Furthermore, the Aberdeen Group reports that more than 50 percent of all security advisories that CERT issued in the first 10 months of 2002 were for Linux and other open-source software solutions. The report muddles the argument that proprietary software such as Windows is inherently less secure than open solutions. And here's another blow to the status quo: Proprietary UNIX solutions were responsible for just as many security advisories as Linux in the same time period. Could Windows be the most secure mainstream OS available today?
"Open-source software, commonly used in many versions of Linux, UNIX, and network routing equipment, is now the major source of elevated security vulnerabilities for IT buyers," the report reads. "Security advisories for open-source and Linux software accounted for 16 out of the 29 security advisories--about one of every two advisories--published for the first 10 months of 2002. During this same time, vulnerabilities affecting Microsoft products numbered seven, or about one in four of all advisories."
The stunning report makes several claims that seem to fly in the face of widely accepted beliefs. First, the Aberdeen Group says that Windows-based Trojan horse attacks peaked in 2001, when CERT released six such advisories, then bottomed out this year, when CERT didn't issue any alerts. However, Trojan horse-based attacks on Linux, UNIX, and open-source projects jumped from one in 2001 to two in 2002. The Aberdeen Group says this information proves that Linux and UNIX are just as prone to Trojan horse attacks as any other OS, despite press reports to the contrary, and that Mac OS X, which is based on UNIX, is also vulnerable to such attacks. Even more troubling, perhaps, is the use of open-source software in routers, Web servers, firewalls, and other Internet-connected solutions. The Aberdeen Group says that this situation sets up these devices and software products to be "infectious carriers" that intruders can easily usurp.
According to the Aberdeen Group, the open-source community's claim that it can fix security vulnerabilities more quickly than proprietary developers can means little. The group says that the open-source software and hardware solutions need more rigorous security testing before they're released to customers. This statement is particularly problematic because many Linux distributions lack the sophisticated automatic-update technologies modern Windows versions contain.
We can rail against Microsoft and its security policies, but far more people and systems use Microsoft's software than the competition's software. I believe that we'll never know how secure Linux is, compared with Windows, until a comparable number of people and systems use Linux. But despite the fact that Linux isn't as prevalent as Windows, we're still seeing a dramatic increase in Linux security advisories today. I think the conclusion is obvious.
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Dog is my co-pilot.
"Fowler noted the major contributions Sun has made not only to Apache and related projects such as Tomcat, but also in non-Apache related projects such as the Gnome desktop and OpenOffice.org."
Well, all three of these projects relate to existing Sun software:
- If Tomcat is successful, then Sun Java and J2EE products benefit.
- Solaris needs a GUI to replace CDE. Gnome and OpenOffice run on Solaris. If Gnome and OpenOffice are successful, then Solaris as a desktop UI also benefits.
"Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
Not to sound like a leech or anything, but I'm curious if anyone knows anything about ApacheCon material being posted somewhere online. While a couple of sessions seem particularily useful to the stuff I'm looking at right now, they all are to some extent.
I would have loved to have gone, but being a poor starving student and doing apache stuff for a student run organization (non-profit), that was kind of out of the question this year.
Dude, ApacheCon is sooo last weekend...
Well, the boys may be OK at the prose part of reporting; but, the event photos ....... well, it's just not a very good idea to post a pic of a guy at the lectern that weighs in at 1850.91 KB (coar.png) for a 450x338 image! "American Beauty" is all done and "Workingman's Dead" is just about to give up and the page still isn't completely rendered. Yikes!
Crowd boos!
Aww...
The quote about good and evil being placed directly under the photo of the Windows .NET pavillion ;-).
I Hope I made the Last Post!
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