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LaCie Releases 500GB Add On Drives

Glewtion writes "LaCie has release their "Big Disk" - a large capacity FireWire case (400 / 500GB) with decent specs. The only thing they're not clear on is the fact that there are two drives in the case...but that only seems logical. Looks like it's only available in Europe though, so here's a link to a French Hardware site's description of it (translation courtesy of Google). Pretty cool for a portable MP3 collection. Here's the LaCie page." What's not apparant is that this case has two drives in it apparantly. Very Slick.

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  1. And, in case you didn't notice... by srw · · Score: 5, Funny

    they're not clear about the fact there are two drives in the case!

  2. Redundancy... by Radi-0-head · · Score: 5, Funny

    So is this disk as redundant as the editor's comments?

    1. Re:Redundancy... by glenebob · · Score: 4, Funny

      It may not be apparant, but apparantly so.

    2. Re:Redundancy... by G-funk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or mp3???

      Well by my quick calculations based on my own mp3 collection (a measly 11gb and 169 hours), 500gib is about 320 days playback non-stop for an mp3 collection, and although there are people who just collect mp3s like they're matchbox cars, I find it hard to believe anybody can identify 320 days worth of music they actually like.

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  3. Coming to Australia soon by Zeddicus_Z · · Score: 5, Informative

    We have one of these babies in the labs right now for review. According to LaCiE they'll be released in Australia (and I would assume, althought I may be wrong) and Asia/Pacific soon - probably for Xmas.

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  4. Portable mp3's? by neksys · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Christ... by my rough calculations, you could hold 8,000-10,000 full albums on that sucker, if we assume that you have about 14 tracks on an album, with each track being about 4 megs. That's an ungodly amount of music - sometimes these little "comments" people add to their stories just irritate me. They seem to exist solely for the wannabe geek factor... I can almost see the submitter thinking, "Hey, what additional comments can I add that will *impress* people? I'm a geek too, right?"

    1. Re:Portable mp3's? by majestynine · · Score: 5, Funny

      Insert standard comments:

      -Wow thats a lot of storage for all my porn
      ---I have more porn than you
      -----You're both fucking loosers

      -When is this possibly going to be adopted by consumers?

      -How are we going to back this much space up?
      ---With another disc/drive, stupid!

      -Bah, I still use 5 1/2 floppies
      ---You are a smelly gnu/hippy

      -Wow, the MPAA/RIAA/whoever it is we're hating this week/Disney are really going to hate this!

  5. warranty? by halo8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The French Translation Page says it has a 2 year warranty.. yet the Company page says 1..

    Odd...

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    1. Re:warranty? by sporty · · Score: 5, Funny

      Consider it a metric conversion error :)

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    2. Re:warranty? by !splut · · Score: 5, Funny

      French years are shorter. They felt the American year was killing off their French culture.

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  6. it had to happen by newsdee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Earlier today I bought a 80gb usb2 drive.
    I knew computers are obsolete as soon as you leave the store, but this is ridiculous. :-)

  7. Finally! by TiMac · · Score: 5, Funny
    SWEET! Now according to the "expert" here I'll have enough HD space on my Mac for a whole 50 minutes of video!

    Dumbass...

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  8. If only my TiVo had Firewire.... by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If only the TiVo had a Firewire interface....

    Imagine getting 2 of these drives - 1TB on your TiVo.

    Of course, I'd want a faster processor, or parsing the "Now Showing" list would take forever!

  9. When compressed via divix... by rusty0101 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most people don't have enough movies to fill two of these things. With a couple of these, a Dazzel Holywood DV converter, and a DVD burner, you could easily go into business converting Home videos to DVDs for people.

    Whether you could make any money at it would depend upon what type of home videos they brought in, and what you got them to agree to let you do with the stuff...

    -Rusty

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  10. Re:you are wrong by Door-opening+Fascist · · Score: 4, Informative

    Beware the difference between megaBITS and megaBYTES. mb is megaBIT and MB is megaBYTE. One byte is eight times larger than one bit, so it turns out IEEE 1384 is slower by a factor of two than ATA/100.

    Also remember that this is interface bandwidth we're talking about. One fast 50MB/s drive is all that's needed to swamp an IEEE 1384 interface, whereas even ATA/100 can handle two of those suckers on a channel (ignoring master/slave issues).

  11. I thought 1TB/$5,000 was cool .... by timothy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This was a neat story, IMO:
    ("The Amazing $5k Terabyte Array")

    That's not too long ago.

    Now, for the same money, you can get twice the storage (4 of these), *and* a decent (though not high-end) laptop; you can fit your 2TB array and associated computer into a briefcase.

    That's a lot.

    timothy

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  12. That's a lot of MP3s by not_cub · · Score: 5, Informative
    Pretty cool for a portable MP3 collection.

    500GB = 4194304000Kbits
    = 16384000 secs @ 256kbps
    = 3792.6 72min albums @ 256kbps
    = $20,000 worth of CDs, assuming you can find them at $5 each.

    Not to mention the fact that that's half a year of music. So pretty cool for a radio station on a mission never to play a top 40 hit ever again maybe?

    I would like to nominate "Pretty cool for a portable MP3 collection" as the most fatuous comment on slashdot now that "Imagine a beowulf cluster of these" is dead.

    not_cub

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  13. Fear of HD editing by benwaggoner · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, if you wanted to use this for HD editing...

    1920x1080 pixels
    30 frames a second
    16 bits per pixel*
    That's be 949 Mbps, or 118 MB per second.

    Or about 70 minutes of uncompressed editing on this at max resolution.

    Of course, being FireWire, it'll have a lowly peak data rate of 400 Mbps. We'd need the 1394b 1600 Mbps standard for this to be useful for uncompressed HD editing. This is why honkin' Ultra-160 RAID systems are used for this kind of work!

    The good thing is that over the air HD transmissions are a measly 19.2 Mbps. That'd give you 58 hours or so.

    * (it's YUV with chroma sampled at 4:2:0, so there is one luma bitmap at 1920x1080, and two chroma bitmaps at 960x520, all at 8 bits per channel).

    1. Re:Fear of HD editing by _LORAX_ · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actuall for clarification...

      YUV 4:2:0 is 12 bits per pixel since the chroma is only samples every other line. YUV 4:2:2 is 16 bits per pixel.

      so thats...

      711 Mbps or 89 MBps or about (wierd) 89 minutes of uncompressed HD based on the fact that 500GB actually means 500000000000 bytes.

  14. your 80gig drive is obsolete. by minitrue · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, your 80gb drive is now obsolete. It is completely unusable with your current configuration. Throw it out now. Or for more eco-friendly processing, please mail it to:

    Me
    c/o Obsolete Hardware Dept.
    NY,NY 10001

    We will kindly take care of any obsolete hardware you may have around your house including sub 2GHz Athlons and P4s, 64MB GeForce cards, and low capacity hard drives of 100GB or less. Do not worry about our processing fee for it will be absorbed in the premium you pay for buying the fastest neatest doodad. Click here to receive notice when we launch our innovative program for disposing of your automobile once it loses that new car smell! ;-)

  15. Some people make things that others will buy. by Glytch · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know, like computer peripherals that work with computers that currently exist.

    And when was the last time you saw an external hot-swappable ATA plug?

    Hey, tell you what. I've currently got a bridge under construction. I'll let you drive on it for the low monthly rate of $50 per month. Come on! Only $50 monthly for unlimited use of my yet-to-be-built bridge! That's a hell of a deal, friend.

    If you don't like that, I've also got a $10 per month bridge just down the river. It's only two lanes, and it's sealed at both ends, but it's still a bargain.

  16. better translation by Permission+Denied · · Score: 5, Informative
    I'm 'merican, so be nice :)

    LaCie France launches its new "Big Disk" hard drives which hold 500 MB and 400 MB and use firewire.

    Firewire can theoretically deliver 400 Mbps, and these disks have a sustained transfer rate of 30 to 40 MB/s [Ed: note the unit change: 240 to 360 Mbps]. The casing is aluminum and ZANAC, an alloy believed to increase robustness and provide better heat dissipation.

    The disks come in a 5 1/4 inch format and can be stacked on top of each other or installed vertically in a rigid base. [Ed: vibration causes disks to fail very quickly, best not keep this thing on your desk]. Since each unit comes standard with two internal hard disks and a FW RAID bridge, it's possible to configure them in RAID 1 (Mirroring) or RAID 0 (Stripping) [Ed: he meant "striping" - Freudian slip?]

    And how much does this cost in France?

    The LaCie Big Disk 400 MB (7200 rpm / 8 MB cache) costs 999 Euros HT (1195 Euros TTC). [Ed: HT = hors taxe, no tax, TTC = toutes taxes compris, all taxes included; dollar is roughly equivalent to Euro].

    And the LaCie Big Disk 500 MB (5400 rpm / 2 MB cache) is available for 1124 Euros HT (1344 Euros TTC).

    They come with a 2-year warranty and a CD with the Silverlining utility (Mac and Windows) and the Silverkeeper backup software (Macintosh).

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    Comments talk about the new moderation system at the site and the site's resident trolls. Google translation does quite a job on the colloqial 'net language they use. A nice French pr0n banner at the bottom to even things out (vis-a-vis RAID 0 stripping).

  17. Re:Eh. by JebusIsLord · · Score: 5, Informative

    OK so... Serial ATA debuts at 133MB/s AFAIK, while the current ATA/6 Spec is also 133MB/s. Firewire runs at 400Mb/s, or rather 50MB/s if we are to convert. So yes, is a tad slower. HOWEVER, ATA/66 is generally considered fast enough for modern drives, since the average drive bursts slower than that. In fact, in a comparison of the 4 fastest IDE drives available at storagereview.com the western digital 200MB 7200RPM 8MB cache drive managed to win out with a sustained transfer rate of 16.4MB/s. I'm not even going to mention that IDE has a maximum cable length (32 inches i believe) that precludes its use externally, and firewire does not. So you were saying?

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  18. God... by Peterus7 · · Score: 4, Funny
    I tried explaining this to my g/f, and why this was so neat....

    The back of my head still hurts from her smacking me...

    jk.