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LaCie Releases 500GB Add On Drives
Glewtion writes "LaCie has release their "Big Disk" - a large capacity FireWire case (400 / 500GB) with decent specs. The only thing they're not clear on is the fact that there are two drives in the case...but that only seems logical. Looks like it's only available in Europe though, so here's a link to a French Hardware site's description of it (translation courtesy of Google). Pretty cool for a portable MP3 collection. Here's the LaCie page." What's not apparant is that this case has two drives in it apparantly. Very Slick.
they're not clear about the fact there are two drives in the case!
So is this disk as redundant as the editor's comments?
Pr0n...
Lots and lots o' pr0n...
Stop corporate
We have one of these babies in the labs right now for review. According to LaCiE they'll be released in Australia (and I would assume, althought I may be wrong) and Asia/Pacific soon - probably for Xmas.
Janie took my gun...
annmariabell.com
foldplay your photos won't know what hit them.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Firewire/USB 2.0 are slower than standard ATA100, which is in turn slower than Serial ATA, which is the future of hard drive technology, and is expected to debut with drives of several hundred gigs in size, reaching a terabyte in about a year, year and a half. Hmm. Can you say "instantly obsolete"?
Apparently, you are unfamiliar with spellcheck. Come on, this isn't even a contextual error. There is no apparant in the English language. I pity the loosers who pay to read this crap.
--sdem
Wow, I remember when double density floppys were the greatest thing since sliced bread. First HD I bought was 10 megs I forget what insane price I paid for it too, now I keep that much on my keychain. Isn't tech grand? Can't wait for another 15 years when I'll have 500 gigs on my key chain.
The human condition is to not accept the human condition.
... is that the editor apparently cannot spell apparent. And not only did he apparently misspell it once, he apparently misspelt it twice.
Christ... by my rough calculations, you could hold 8,000-10,000 full albums on that sucker, if we assume that you have about 14 tracks on an album, with each track being about 4 megs. That's an ungodly amount of music - sometimes these little "comments" people add to their stories just irritate me. They seem to exist solely for the wannabe geek factor... I can almost see the submitter thinking, "Hey, what additional comments can I add that will *impress* people? I'm a geek too, right?"
The French Translation Page says it has a 2 year warranty.. yet the Company page says 1..
Odd...
The More Knowledge you have the Luckier you Get- J.R. Ewing
Earlier today I bought a 80gb usb2 drive. :-)
I knew computers are obsolete as soon as you leave the store, but this is ridiculous.
The ENIAC Demo Competition
people pay?
Dumbass...
This would be slick if it could be configured as a RAID system. 250 MB in one box with its own backup.
firewire is 400 mb/s.. ata 100 is 100 mb/s (hence the 100)
But one question. Though its been made terribly obvious to us that it's two drives, does it appear as two drives to your computer? If so, how does it manage that?
Begun, this browser war has.
...Out of standard, considering each one of these storage units integrates two hard disks and a bridge FW/RAID, it is possible to configure them in RAID 1 (Mirroring) or RAID 0 (Stripping).
And the answer, dear asshat, is yes
If only the TiVo had a Firewire interface....
Imagine getting 2 of these drives - 1TB on your TiVo.
Of course, I'd want a faster processor, or parsing the "Now Showing" list would take forever!
www.eFax.com are spammers
"What's not apparant is that this case has two drives in it apparantly. Very Slick."
Me passed grade 4. Me can speel grate! Me want job!
Slashdot editors...continuing the assualt on all things grammatical!
Most people don't have enough movies to fill two of these things. With a couple of these, a Dazzel Holywood DV converter, and a DVD burner, you could easily go into business converting Home videos to DVDs for people.
Whether you could make any money at it would depend upon what type of home videos they brought in, and what you got them to agree to let you do with the stuff...
-Rusty
You never know...
According to the French site you can configure them to work in RAID-0 or 1 so I'd assume the computer would see them as one drive from the onboard RAID controller, otherwise a software controlled RAID wouldn't sustain 400 Mb/s, as they claim.
"...and can pile up horizontally on other of the same peripherals models..." Hey! Get off my other of the same peripherals models!
"Sympathetic, the new system of comment, Ca will avoid the comment of twisted which spends their time insulting:p" Sounds like my voice recognition software is glitching up again. And many more.
This was a neat story, IMO:
("The Amazing $5k Terabyte Array")
That's not too long ago.
Now, for the same money, you can get twice the storage (4 of these), *and* a decent (though not high-end) laptop; you can fit your 2TB array and associated computer into a briefcase.
That's a lot.
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
Well, if not that, at least the whole red light district of it </sarcasm>
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in addition to drives like this, Lacie intends to have a NAS storage head or unit in the future (http://www.lacie.com/technologies/technology.cfm? id=F8B7B736-7F7A-11D6-98090090278D3ED0). their AIT2 is also pretty nifty!
"Sympathetic, the new system of comment, Ca will avoid the comment of twisted which spends their time insulting:p "
Easily the best post to a message forum anywhere on the Internet.
# Erik
chrisd works for the Department of Redundancy Department!
Actualy I have two drives tied together with windows spanning (220gigs), but I hope its a temporary solution. In the future I definetly plan on having at least some redundancy involved, probably the one where you take 3 drives and the 3rd stores the XOR of the other two.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
500GB = 4194304000Kbits
= 16384000 secs @ 256kbps
= 3792.6 72min albums @ 256kbps
= $20,000 worth of CDs, assuming you can find them at $5 each.
Not to mention the fact that that's half a year of music. So pretty cool for a radio station on a mission never to play a top 40 hit ever again maybe?
I would like to nominate "Pretty cool for a portable MP3 collection" as the most fatuous comment on slashdot now that "Imagine a beowulf cluster of these" is dead.
not_cub
q='echo "q=$s$q$s;s=$b$s;b=$b$b;$q"';s=\';b=\\;echo "q=$s$q$s;s=$b$s;b=$b$b;$q"
In 15 years we'll all keep or data under the watchful eye of Big Broth^h^h^h^h^h TIA (the total information awareness program). Not only will our data be instantly accessible wherever we go, it'll also be constantly sifted through to weed out terrorists!
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
So, who on earth makes 250GB drives? Last I heard the largest you could get was 200GB.
Well, if you wanted to use this for HD editing...
1920x1080 pixels
30 frames a second
16 bits per pixel*
That's be 949 Mbps, or 118 MB per second.
Or about 70 minutes of uncompressed editing on this at max resolution.
Of course, being FireWire, it'll have a lowly peak data rate of 400 Mbps. We'd need the 1394b 1600 Mbps standard for this to be useful for uncompressed HD editing. This is why honkin' Ultra-160 RAID systems are used for this kind of work!
The good thing is that over the air HD transmissions are a measly 19.2 Mbps. That'd give you 58 hours or so.
* (it's YUV with chroma sampled at 4:2:0, so there is one luma bitmap at 1920x1080, and two chroma bitmaps at 960x520, all at 8 bits per channel).
My video compression blog
"What's not apparant is that this case has two drives in it apparantly."
:)
I love the little comments after slashdot story submissions.
This would be slick if it could be configured as a RAID system. 250 MB in one box with its own backup.
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From the translated article
Out of standard, considering each one of these storage units integrates two hard disks and a bridge FW/RAID, it is possible to configure them in RAID 1 (Mirroring) or RAID 0 (Stripping).
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;-)
Me
c/o Obsolete Hardware Dept.
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If you have a 500GB mp3 collection, the RIAA would like to have a word with you. ....and maybe, just maybe, it's time to get off kazaa. Seriously. Just doing some rough calculations, That's over 5,000 hours of standard quality MP3 audio. over 200 days!
It's been a long time.
500GB - how many Libraries of Congress is that?
You know, like computer peripherals that work with computers that currently exist.
And when was the last time you saw an external hot-swappable ATA plug?
Hey, tell you what. I've currently got a bridge under construction. I'll let you drive on it for the low monthly rate of $50 per month. Come on! Only $50 monthly for unlimited use of my yet-to-be-built bridge! That's a hell of a deal, friend.
If you don't like that, I've also got a $10 per month bridge just down the river. It's only two lanes, and it's sealed at both ends, but it's still a bargain.
And like I said about 7 years ago with the drives of that time: "I'll never use up all that room!"
Between the damned reposts, and the redundancy in this article, and the stupid-ass comment about MP3's (come on ass-hat, you MUST realize that nobody in their right mind has a personal MP3 collection even half that size, is this your first week in the tech biz?) this crap is starting to get rather irrirtating, damned glad I don't pay for this site. Sheesh, makes me wish I could strip out the ads too, I mean if you guys aren't going to put some effort into this why the hell should you get paid for it?
"The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
LaCie France launches its new "Big Disk" hard drives which hold 500 MB and 400 MB and use firewire.
Firewire can theoretically deliver 400 Mbps, and these disks have a sustained transfer rate of 30 to 40 MB/s [Ed: note the unit change: 240 to 360 Mbps]. The casing is aluminum and ZANAC, an alloy believed to increase robustness and provide better heat dissipation.
The disks come in a 5 1/4 inch format and can be stacked on top of each other or installed vertically in a rigid base. [Ed: vibration causes disks to fail very quickly, best not keep this thing on your desk]. Since each unit comes standard with two internal hard disks and a FW RAID bridge, it's possible to configure them in RAID 1 (Mirroring) or RAID 0 (Stripping) [Ed: he meant "striping" - Freudian slip?]
And how much does this cost in France?
The LaCie Big Disk 400 MB (7200 rpm / 8 MB cache) costs 999 Euros HT (1195 Euros TTC). [Ed: HT = hors taxe, no tax, TTC = toutes taxes compris, all taxes included; dollar is roughly equivalent to Euro].
And the LaCie Big Disk 500 MB (5400 rpm / 2 MB cache) is available for 1124 Euros HT (1344 Euros TTC).
They come with a 2-year warranty and a CD with the Silverlining utility (Mac and Windows) and the Silverkeeper backup software (Macintosh).
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Comments talk about the new moderation system at the site and the site's resident trolls. Google translation does quite a job on the colloqial 'net language they use. A nice French pr0n banner at the bottom to even things out (vis-a-vis RAID 0 stripping).
I'd give almost anything to have that kinda space all I have now is 60 gigs and that fills up constantly, though whats really sad is between me and my friend we could have that sucker filled up in about a week with tons of worthless crap :) thank god for technology
satellite usenet
:)
shouldn't take THAT long to fill 500GB with a continuous full usenet feed at 128k or 256k. maybe a week or two. More realistically, cron a binary harvester against localhost, expire articles every few days, and stream mp3's through your stereo using MServ to vote up and down individual tracks. Now THAT's what I call "the sounds of the Internet"
Intelligent Life on Earth
I think it was on my third page of Google results. There was another, similar one posted by Michael prior about another $5K TB array, but this one has more details.
It's amazing (well, to the easily amazed, like me) that soon 1TB will be a normal, reasonable, regular-type quantity of storage. My step-brother told me the other day that he has half a TB of storage in his household, and it still boggles my mind.
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
I would have thought it was two drives (since I haven't seen any drives larger than 250 GB), but I don't see how you can fit two drives in a 6.7x1.7x10.6" case. I have an external firewire drive and it's only about an inch smaller width and depth - not much extra room in the case either. And why is there only a 2 MB cache in the 500 GB version? Since every drive I've seen has at least 2 MB cache wouldn't a two drive RAID have at least 4 MB of cache?
The back of my head still hurts from her smacking me...
jk.
The LaCie page has a suggested US $ price of $899... that kind of implies that it's not just available in Europe
...in a comment mentioning both penii and computers. Is your wang floppy?
I don't have Windows, and I don't know how much disk space it recognizes.
;)
Even if I did, I sure don't have 2TB.I'm doubt that the kernels of any of the Linux machines I have right now could nicely handle TB either, and I have serious doubts about the motherboards inside them handling so much disk anyhow
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
How long does it take to read this thing?
This is really skewing the bandwidth per capacity
number.
500GB at 40MB/s (assuming GB is base 10)
12500s == 3h28m20s
So "gigabytes can be exchanged in seconds"? Yeah,
12,500 seconds.
Not to mention that your comment is redundant (mine too, in fact). We could win the award of redundancy award.
I hereby place the above post in the public domain.
I was curious about their claim that the drive can hold 2 days of uncompressed digital video since they didn't make any reference to the resolution or frame rate of the video they were talking about. I quickly found some figures here for storage rates for video. Based on their figures for NTSC video stored uncompressed in MJPEG format the video should run about 20MB/s not including the audio they factor in later. At this rate 500GB will only store 7 hours of uncompressed video, only 30% of what they claim. Now, I know companies like to tweak their statistics to make their products seem better, but this seems very misleading.
forget crappy mp3....
:-P
I think flac is cool but is too little, too late at this point. With 500 gig I don't need to compress at all, saving my time, and as my music collection grows it won't outstrip hard disk gains.
DVD iso's are a totally different story though
#6495ED - cornflower blue
Yeesh, I thought I knew something about technology. I really didn't think technology hit the point where you could fit 500GB of data into a single hard drive!
No, then he would say faster by a factor of 0.5. Yes, then it isn't faster.
It's how you use it, right???
I just got my external 120 GB firewire drive in the mail 2 or 3 days ago (figures they just released a new model... but it's not like i would have spent the money for the 400GB version). I must say, it works extremely well with my G4 powerbook. In fact, it't access speed when flipping between the directories is noticeably faster. They are fairly small too, i just tuck the drive behind my monitor.
All and all, i'm very pleased with it so far. I've transferred about 60+ of files too it, never even a hiccup in speed.
plus, it comes with all sort of diagnostics on the drive (preformatted in HFS+) format.
definitely worth the $270, especially for a powerbook limited by the size of the hard drive you can afford to put into it.
my last sig was too controversial... now, a new and improved useless sig!
500 GB is about a fortieth of the Library of Congress, according to Wikipedia.
Compression would bring this down, and with good compression you could bring it down to maybe a 5th of the Library of Congress considering English has, according to Shannon's estimates, between 0.6 and 1.2 (probably closer to 1.2) bits of entropy per chararcter.
\begin{wishful thinking}
Just wait until holographic technology hits the mass market, then we can get it onto one CD-sized disk!
\end{wishful thinking}
\end{slashdot post}
I hereby place the above post in the public domain.
Wow, what a bargain . . . wait, no. Nevermind. Sweden's tax rate sucks.
I spend $100k/year on taxable purchases (easily), which in Sweden would be $25k/yr in tax (vs. $0 in here New Hampshire), or more than $2000/month -- and for that I get healthcare and retirement? Thanks but no thanks.
I can BUY outright health insurance for less than $300/month for most of my life, never more than $1000/month (and that assumes my employer gives me nada for it, which is opposite of reality -- they pay all but $20/mo). And that's for some juicy-good BC/BS insurance with no, how do I say in Swedish, "long-ass lines and sub-standard care"?
Of course, I've alrady paid social security tax on the income that lets me spend those bucks which, by my calculations, equals about oh, $0/month at retirement. But, with the avg $1500/month left over after I pay for health insurance throughout my working life, I could stock up a nice nest egg. Why, after 30 years at 8% I'd have more than US$2.2Million. That ignores the fact that I max out a 401k (pre-tax), a Roth IRA (after-tax, but tax-free interest), and contribute a nice fat chunk of after-tax income to investments (taxable on disbursement) before I spend that $100k/yr.
So, I conservatively expect to get > $10M to retire on after 30 years of work (should I decide to go it that long), even at 5% gain (which amounts to more than my current monthly income if managed properly, even after taxes), the best possible health care for free or negligible out-of-pocket expense throughout my life, and enough left over to buy an X-box or 1000.
What's the benefit of that 25% sales tax again, borkaborkaborka?
everything in moderation
Copyrights, Patents, Trademarks: temporary loans from the Public Domain, not real property ("intellectual" or otherwise)
Obviously you don't get as much spam as I do...
I come to the comments looking for reactions to this new drive and I see people mostly making the same, overused, modded up six other times already joke. Mostly...
Oops.
(The apparantly unobvious thing about my sarcasm is that it's apparant to pretty much only the people who watch South Park. Apparantly...)
CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
Check out the comparitive review at barefeats in which they conclude that the WiebeTech product performs better than the competition.
Note that if you don't have firewire hardware on your box, you can get a PCI or Cardbus card to do it. There is a compatibility list at www.linux1394.org. I'm using one of the Belkin cards in my PC, and it works well.
Disclaimer, so you don't think I'm astroturfing: WiebeTech is my current consulting client.
Request your free CD of my piano music.
Now when will someone release a decent backup system for the consumer so that we can backup these monsters.
L.J.
Just because a slashdot submission screener dude *can* add a little comment to the end of a submission doesn't always mean he should.
... wow! excellent point!!
"What's not apparant is that this case has two drives in it apparantly. Very Slick."
~13GB per hour. At which rate you'll be able to get less than 40 hours on to one of these drives. Or less than the amount of video a film student can shoot in a semester.
MacMall has it on their website as available :) :) and bad old 50's-60's sci-fi B movies. One can never have enough video stored up for when the mpaa and the government make conditions where we can only watch the current drivel they put out -when- they say we can. I'll just turn off the tv and sell it watch the old stuff. I need a few of those 500 gig drives!
*soon* for $999 for the 500 gig one. Over the time I have been getting their web emails, since I got a 250 for my imac, and a 1/2 terabyte raid array down in the living room, their *soon* often seems to come to pass in a few weeks to a month at the very longest, so I expect these will be here for christmas giving.
Good thing I don't have a girlfriend right now to smack me on the back of the head, since I've got 750 gig almost filled with old digitized tv shows.
I too think that its unlikely anyone could dig up music they actually like on that that scale (exept for only the most non-discriminating of listeners). I don't, however, feel that this should stop people from trying. Anything truely "worth doing" should be worth doing for it's own sake and not becase there is some "reason" or "purpose" for it to be done.
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And I belive that someone out there belives that this is a cause worthy of their attention... And with 360kbps files... With a T3 line... No social life... And God willing... There will be a 500GB mp3 collection that one person can find tollerable as a whole!
Not that I (or the RIAA; not that I or anyone else cares) endorses this, but I (and the RIAA; for different reasons) would like to hear the story of a man with 500GB of mp3s.
I've owned two LaCie pocketdrives for a little under a year (48gb and 30gb), and I must say that they've been a godsend for a geek like myself.
I can store all my stuff on them. Take them to virtually ANY PC in existance, (anything with usb or firewire - just about any OS works - linux, mac, windows... no drivers required), and "it just works".
The most practical application i've found for these drives is doing backups of my pcs or client's pcs before doing major upgrades, etc.
I can take my Mp3 collection anywhere. I once even configured one of them to be a BOOTABLE LINUX DRIVE which I could use ANYWHERE (on older pcs, i needed a bootdisk, but the idea was still cool...)
The only gripe with the 500gb drive is that it's too big to tote around like the pocketdrives, which fit into a pocket, run completely silent, have a shock absorbant silicone buffer, can be self-powered on firewire, etc.
Either way, all geeks can benefit from external usb/firewire drives. Before I got them, I never envisioned needing one, but now that I own two, I couldn't envision living without them.
-- If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? - Uli's moose
1 terabyte (10^12) has 99 511 627 776 less bytes than 1 tebibyte (2^40).
Hmm...I click on the link, and it says:
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available: worldwide
Nice editing
My knee-jerk reaction to these products, especially from LaCie, has usually been, "wow, they're getting a nice premium for doing some integration". So, pricing them, I find the maxtor 250's are going for $400 a pop, add in a hundred bucks for a case/ATAFirewire bridge, and you've got only a hundred bucks left for doing your hardware striping. Probably with the right IC you could come in $50 under, but this is still a good deal.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
The LaCie page has a suggested US $ price of $899...
MacMall has it on their website as available
*soon* for $999 for the 500 gig one.
Proving once again that you CAN screw Mac users out of an extra $100 just by selling stuff in a Mac-specific store. No wonder similar hardware always costs more for Macs than for wintel. Oh well, I guess you can't expect too much consumer sense from people who still pay 3 grand for a new computer.
0 1 - just my two bits
4 hard drives in a small tower, with a USB 2.0 connection. That's close to a terabyte with commonly available hard drives today.
I have a similar enclosure to this made by Miglia (Mediabank). You can basically put 2 3.5" hard drives in there as master/slave and connect up the firewire cable.
It's neat but doesn't work under linux. The ieee1394 stack in Linux doesn't support multiple LUNs for a device, and so it can only see the first disk in the box. I highly suspect that the Lacie drive will be the same. It's probably just using an updated version of the Oxford chipset that can cope with drives over 120Gb. From the ieee1394-devel mailing list, there's been no serious action to work on this.
Firewire drives are well cool though.
Jamie
Imagine one of these hooked up to a beowulf cluster! ;-)
Well my legitimate music collection (legit meaning albums PURCHASED, disregarding any CDRs that may have _accidently_ found their way into my collection), currently contains over 11,600 album titles. So it CAN happen. (I'm sure just as much was spent on theft&fire-resistant storage of the collection as on the music itself.)
Big Deal. Maxtor sells external 250GB Firewire/USB2 drives. The cool thing is that they come with backup software and a button on the case.
Push the button, make a backup.
I've been looking at this as a backup solution, I just need to get a firewire or a USB2 card.
Democrats or Republicans. They are both taking us to the same place and they are not afraid of us anymore.
{begin parochialism}I find it hard to believe anybody can identify 320 days worth of music they actually like.{end parochialism}
.shm or something simlar, and those run about 5 times the size of the equivalent mp3. Lastly, the true audio file/snob will leave his/her music as .wav. For me, that would immediately move my collection over the 100 gig mark. And who says this is just about mp3? This drive would only hold 100 DVDs. If you wanted to capture in HDTV format, it would hold even less.
It's pretty easy - just leave pop music behind and explore "serious" music (eg. classical or jazz).
First, you really can tell the difference betwee 128 and 192, particularly in the bass when the full dynamic rage is blasting (think a Beethoven finale). Also, some high end voice loses some clarity (think Ella Fitzgerald). So that increases storage needs 50% right there. Next, the typical pop CD contains a bit over 1/2 an hour of music, while classical CD's often run to 70 minutes or more. Lastly, with serious music, it's not just the piece, but the performance. The same composition with a different performer can be a completely different experience. You can hear this easily with Chopin and operas, but it is also true of any symphonic work worth hearing. Talking about jazz without referencing the performer (and the performance for the really good stuff) is a complete waste of time. "remixes" are as old as music performance itself. So if you like a piece, you will have multiple, high-quality copies. I personally have three copies each of Shostakovich's 8th string quartet and Beethoven's symphonies.
If you are into live performances, then you're using
Never underestimate the human need to fill all available disk space.
"one treats others with courtesy not because they are gentlemen or gentlewomen, but because you are" --G. Henrichs
This is bad enough:
The only thing they're not clear on is the fact that there are two drives in the case
but then this happens:
Jesus, now I'm even more confused. Are we talking about two logical or two physical drives here?
Actually, Serial ATA debuted at 150 MB/s, not 133. It's therefore theoretically a bit faster than ATA/133. However, since most motherboard manufacturers are hanging Serial ATA controllers off of the PCI bus (and since all add-on Serial ATA cards are, naturally, PCI), there's a performance cap associated with the top bandwidth afforded by PCI.
What this means is that, in order to realize the current max bandwidth of Serial ATA (and to provide a growth path for the future), future motherboard chipsets will need to integrate Serial ATA in a manner which bypasses PCI altogether.
Of course, these architectural issues are minor compared to the benefits of thinner, more easily routed cabling (and consequently better case cooling). I'm not sure I like how Serial ATA is strictly point-to-point rather than multi-drop -- this means each drive needs a separate cable. No more daisy chaining drives off a single bus with Serial ATA. But considering how small the Serial ATA connector is, you can put a lot more of them on a motherboard, so I guess it all balances out.
(And yeah, I know you can buy round cables for standard ATA/100 and ATA/133 drives, but there are signal integrity issues with round IDE cables.)
IEEE 1394a (FireWire or iLink) has sustained transfer rate of 400 Mb/s. (thats megabits per second)
USB 2.0 has a peak transfer rate of 480 Mb/s, but usually you won't get that kind of throughput.
With the ATA 100 standard, the 100 is for 100 MB/s, thats 800 megabits per second, so ATA100 is twice as fast as FireWire.
However, the IEEE 1394b standard will operate at 1600 Mb/s, or about 2x as fast as ATA 100, so good things are to come.
Begun, this browser war has.
Thanks for pointing that out.
:)
It's actually a pretty neat comparison to say "as much text as in every book at the LoC" but annoying to forget that text is not the same as books / other artifacts. For newer books I think this matters less, but for older books (which can't be reproduced by telling a printer to reproduce a postscript file), the actual substance of the book itself holds a lot of information. Color / typeface / paper quality / etc.
Just like a painting can be *represented* at different bit depths and resolutions -- no one of these *is* the painting, so you have to specify these parameters before saying "enough hard drive space to hold every painting in the louvre!"
Anyhow, thanks for pointing out a peeve of mine.
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
"Section 2.4.3.5 AWNS (Acceptor Wait for New Cycle State).
In AWNS the AH function indicates that it has received a
multiline message byte.
In AWNS the RFD message must be sent false and the DAC message
must be sent passive true.
The AH function must exit the AWNS and enter:
(1) The ANRS if DAV is false
(2) The AIDS if the ATN message is false and neither:
(a) The LADS is active
(b) Nor LACS is active"
-- from the IEEE Standard Digital Interface for
Programmable Instrumentation
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