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Jon Johansen DeCSS Trial Next Week

daniel_howell writes "Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten has a story on the imminent start (after delays in finding judges qualified to hear the case) of the trial of local teenage Jon Johansen for helping to write and distribute the DeCSS program to play DVDs on a home computer. The article notes that under Norwegian law it is perfectly legal to make a copy for your own personal use. The Norwegian press is generally supportive of Johansen, and Aftenposten is usually good at posting updates to big stories like this on its English pages, so watch this space to follow the story as it unfolds."

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  1. What I find ridiculous... by intermodal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    is that the RIAA is suing a Norwegian for breaking a law that isn't in Norway. This is no different from Dmitry's case, unless you consider the fact that Jon didn't actually sell his program. And both should be found not guilty, and it doesn't change the fact that the DMCA is bad legislature.

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    1. Re:What I find ridiculous... by jgerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, it's exactly the same. Except that Dmitri was arrested on U.S. soil, in the act of breaking U.S. law. I do believe that it's a bad law, but it is a law just the same.

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    2. Re:What I find ridiculous... by EzInKy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, it's exactly the same. Except that Dmitri was arrested on U.S. soil, in the act of breaking U.S. law. I do believe that it's a bad law, but it is a law just the same.

      At one time it was legal for people of a certain skin color to take away all the rights of people of a different skin color. It was a bad law, but it was the law all the same.

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    3. Re:What I find ridiculous... by Zemran · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At least he is lucky enough to be tried in a country with a more reasonable legal system, i.e. run for the people rather than by industry.

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  2. Many more to come by Enquest · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is only the beginning. If software patents take their hold in Europe they will lock up free software programmers all over.
    Thats why software patents are against free speech. In history the establisment locked philosopher up. Now they will lock hackers, programmers up of violating code.

  3. So what did Jon do? by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 3, Insightful
    If he didn't crack it, then what did he do? Release it under his own name?

    Shouldn't it have occurred to him that might not have been such a hot idea?

    1. Re:So what did Jon do? by oddrune · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Everyone can't run and hide from the big bad wolf. Don't complain when somebody stick their head out to take the case to court.

  4. Judges by starling · · Score: 4, Insightful

    [...]finding judges qualified to hear the case

    Wow, good idea! I only wish it happened more often in technical cases. Better still, maybe judges should be required to attend a remedial computer class and barred (heh) from hearing computer-related cases until they pass it.

  5. CSS != copy protection, CSS == play protection... by jvl001 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The article notes that under Norwegian law it is perfectly legal to make a copy for your own personal use.

    CSS does not prevent you from making a bit-by-bit copy of a DVD! You can mount a DVD and look at the contents, move the file to your hard drive, etc. You just can't decode the contents without using an approved method.

    CSS is designed to prevent me from playing media I legally purchased in a device I legally purchased unless I use approved software.

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  6. Music industry's business model... by sapgau · · Score: 3, Insightful

    (surely this is off-topic) ... is by using a technology that can be cracked by a teenager and be replicated/copied around the world. And instead of fixing the technology they buy legislators to make laws to come down on this kid and make him an example to the world.

    Unless I like to invest (and trust) in mafia type industries, I would place my money somewhere else.

  7. Surprise by denisonbigred · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Frankly im surprised that he wasn't extradited to the US like others have been recently. It disgusts me that we (the US) think that we have the right to enforce our laws anywhere, at any time. If people dont have the benefits (and sadly I say that with no small degree of sarcasm these days) of being a US citizen or residing in the US, then they should not be subject to OUR laws.


    An aside: I tried to post this at about 3:30 or so and the site was so slow that it timed out before my comment could go through, several times. Does anyone know why it was so slow?

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  8. "...can contribute...." by extrarice · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love this line (emphasis mine):

    "Norwegian prosecutors claim the program *can contribute* to illegal copying of DVDs."

    Car makers better watch out - cars can contrubite to bank robberies and drive-by shootings.

    When did the ability to do something start to mean that you actually committed the crime itself?

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    1. Re:"...can contribute...." by sparkz · · Score: 3, Insightful
      When did the ability to do something start to mean that you actually committed the crime itself?

      In 1998, when the DMCA was passed

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  9. Re:CSS != copy protection, CSS == play protection. by Dyolf+Knip · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quite true. As has been pointed out many times, copying and playing of copied DVDs was going on for some time before DeCSS was written. Any claims that you have to be able to decode something to copy it are bogus beyond all belief.

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  10. Re:He's being charged under norwegian law... by rmohr02 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, but the FBI warning doesn't take away any of my rights.