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RealNetworks Releases Helix DNA Producer Source
Rob Lanphier writes "We just released the Helix DNA Producer, a multi-format media-encoding engine for creating streaming broadcasts, on-demand streaming content, and downloadable audio video files. It supports RealAudio, RealVideo and Ogg Vorbis, and includes many input and output filters, variable bitrate encoding support, option for two-pass encoding, audio gain control, Firewire support. Press release is here and a couple of stories are here(1) and here(2)." Here's a page that details the licenses under which the code can be obtained.
We better stop them fast before they steal any more of our freedom.
--sdem
This is great! Maybe now we can see better support for FreeBSD.
They have a moral obligation to release their code under the BSD license, so that it is free for all to use and we don't get the jackbooted source code police busting down your door after trying to make an honest buck selling your own improvements to their source code. What a bunch of anti-innovation socialists.
--sdem
Real already knows my genenetic code they have so much junk watching me when I install Real software with default options. They've probably figured out a way to have my monitor probe my brain.
Paranoia? I don't think so...
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
One of my main problems with realplayer (and other real products) is the fact that it dumps all manner of ad- and spy-ware on my computer whenever i install it. Therefore, i wonder if the lisence includes stipulations about including advertising software despite the rest of the project being open source. Other than a scheme such as this one, I can't see how a company with a financial scheme like Real could get much benefit out of this arrangement. After all, I find it hard to imagine a large company such as this one just trying to do the Right Thing by the open source people.
"Hey brother Christian with your high and mighty errand / your actions speak so loud I can't hear a word you're saying"
Didn't you get the memo?
That was the entire point of their Helix Project.......
So if you could just put the new cover sheet on, that'd be great........And I'll see you get another copy of the memo.
Karma: Not Particularly Funny.
CHA CHING!
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But if you work for Real, you'd know that already, wouldn't you? ^_^
Is there any Free streaming media server that is robust and supports open codecs? I'd even be willing to make some compromises. Of the proprietary codecs, Real is the best. Is there any free way to stream it? Darwin Streaming Media is no good because it only supports proprietary codecs and the inferior ones (in installed base at least) at that.
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Here's a company that could have OWNED streaming media, but couldn't see past their own noses to do what was best for their customers. They are hanging on by a thread by making deals with MLB, but as for the consumer market, they are all but dead.
No self-respecting geek would install RealNetworks products on anything.
...I grew tired of the constant barrage of Real Player updates long ago. It seems they only provide and use thier products as customer info gathering/profiling tools.
I avoid the use of any 'Real' audio components, both client and server related. There are always other choices.
Does it support Ogg Vorbis?....oh wait it does!!
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Just what I want, a shitty encoder for the worlds shittiest piece of software on windows. Tons of spyware and hidden services that ask you if you want to disable it 2 times. Its damn near impossible to find the freeware player link on their site. It took a google search to locate it. I avoid their horrible software and choose windows media or even quicktime (nagware) whenever possible.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Alan Ralsky, 6747 Minnow Pond Dr., West Bloomfield, MI 48322, Thank You.
Seems a lot of folks have that address memorized now. Funny.
May Goatse rest his soul
I remember back in like 96 when RealPlayer 2.0 came out... it was incredible. But now, I dread having to play anything that's in any sort of "RealMedia" format.
I meant to link to this Infoworld story. Oh well, one day I'll learn how cut 'n paste works under X. ;)
I always keep a copy of RealPlayer 8.0 for Linux on hand for the good sites [obFlash warning] that offer "both" kinds of streaming - Real (Country) *and* Windows Media Player (Western).
I have no self-respect.
Ka-CHING!
Can you paypal?
The BSD license basically says that "Provided you acknowledge you've used our code, you can do *anything* you like with it". That includes including it in closed source apps.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
--Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
Yes, but does anyone use real format anymore? I thought most indie music streamers used MP3.
Glad to see this software supports Ogg Vorbis though. I have half my music in Mp3 and the other half in Ogg.
They didn't mention BSD or GPL license though... hopefully it isn't some BS source license like the microsoft "shared source", that is useless to the OSS community..
So long as it doesn't have any spyware or adware in it, the source license is reasonable, and the quality is OK, this is probably a Good Thing(tm).
I'd rather be a conservative nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job.
W00T Send it to the Canadian government to give away to hippies and commies. BOOO CHRETIEN!!!!!
The whole point of releasing the source if so Real can get some good/free PR. Otherwise why are the important parts provided in object code form only?
Anyone else think it's an insult to an good open codec like Ogg for an evil company like Real to be using it? More and more support for Ogg is great, but why do they do it when they already have their own proprietary codec? This seems similiar to Microsoft announcing that its workers can use Linux if they want to. There are other problems, too. Suppose Ogg becomes the new audio standard like at least some of us are hoping it will. If Ogg is supported by Real apps, then newbies might start using those Real apps to play their Oggs. This has the potential of associating Ogg with some bad stuff, like Real's spyware.
live(free) || die;
There is no source code released for the only interesting part of the system, which is the Real codecs. And the source that was released is under a crappy non-libre license. I guess it's an ok story for the developer section but putting it on the front page lens RealMedia Corp undeserved legitimacy.
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From reading this FAQ, it appears that there is no problem with packaging this in a distribution (RH 8.1 w/ Helix?). However, I was unable to find a detailed list of supported codecs. I saw that it supported Real, and Ogg, but what I mean is, How does it compare to Real One Player (Currently not available for linux). Version 8 is the latest I think.
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There are ways of fighting this kind of lock in. One is to produce open codecs that, byte for byte, deliver equivalent or better quality to those in the "private domain". This is what the Ogg project is trying to do. Indeed, it's what the MPEG project is doing - the specs are open in the sense that anyone can look at them and create readers and writers, although as detractors are quick to point out, those who do implement the MPEG codecs and share their work, commercially or non-commercially, with third parties, are usually obligated to agree to pay royalties. Still, this is a situation infinitely better than the Apple/MS/Real situation.
Defeating this quagmire of content locked by the tools that distribute it will not happen by itself. Resources need to be devoted, and unless people are prepared to actually act, not just talk about it on Slashdot, nothing will ever get done. Apathy is not an option.
You can help by getting off your rear and writing to your congressman or senator. Tell them that open, non-proprietry, codecs are important to you - that you should have the right to control that that you store on your own disks. Tell them that you appreciate Real Network's efforts in this area, but that in the absense of full disclosure, you will have to find less secure and intelligently designed alternatives. Let them know that SMP may make or break whether you can efficiently deploy OpenBSD on your workstations and servers. Explain the concerns you have about freedom, openness, and choice, and how arbitrary file format locking destroys all three. Let them know that this is an issue that effects YOU directly, that YOU vote, and that your vote will be influenced, indeed dependent, on his or her policy on open codecs.
You CAN make a difference. Don't treat voting as a right, treat it as a duty. Keep informed, keep your political representatives informed on how you feel. And, most importantly of all, vote.
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What is Helix DNA? Is it a good thing or a bad thing?
On one hand, it's from Real -- the first major media company to release a player that (depending on a few bits in a file) won't let you save an internet multimedia stream, the precursor to modern DRM. Real also brought us RealONE, the most junk-infested media player ever, famous for spraying garbage all over your system without your consent.
Now they're releasing a player and its source with ogg support built in? If there's one thing we need in the media arena, it's an open file format and codecs to combat proprietary windows media, real, and quicktime. This sounds like it could be really cool.
But is it for Real?
OGG isn't GPL'd. It has a BSD license.
You're both right. Parts of Xiph.org's Ogg Vorbis reference software are under a BSD style license; parts are under the GPL. The libvorbis* packages and the Tremor decoder are BSD licensed, but libao and the vorbis-tools (executables such as oggenc, ogg123, etc) are under the GNU General Public License (or is it Lesser GPL now?).
Will I retire or break 10K?
Real already knows my genenetic code/i
So that's what they're using in the Helix DNA Producer!
Mmmm.. Donuts
If you look at the capabilities of Helix DNA, they would be much better provided by a set of small, specific command line programs, filters, network tools, and CGI programs. It would be much easier to reuse those tools for other purposes, to create new plug-ins, etc.
Instead, what we seem to be getting (but it's hard to tell because there is almost no documentation on the site), is some big, monolithic program with "plug-ins", which probably ends up being hard to extend, hard to modify, and hard to reuse.
People should really kick the cross-platform habit. The UNIX/Linux approach to building large software systems and servers out of small command line programs is better than the Windows approach. Having junk designed for Windows ported to Linux is not the right approach and fails to take advantage of the strenghts of the Linux platform.
I think a company that has in the past deliberately and repeatedly used its customers' systems to:
I think what they've done in the past is downright immoral. Why would we as a community want to support, embrace, or do anything but boycott and condemn these scoundrels?
They've been pretty heavy handed both trying to get people to use the pay version of realplayer, and trying to get it as prevalent on installed systems as possible. While personally I'm not thrilled at either, it's pretty easy to have some sympathy for their reasoning. I don't know if anyone here has tried to get people to give mozilla a shot, but one of the first complaints I always got was that it started up slower than IE. The quickstart was always one of the first things they wound up doing once they decided to switch. It often takes a lot of explaining before people grasped exactly why IE started so quickly. It's just not easy to compete with components built into the operating system. Don't use a quickstart and a significant amount of the potential audience will complain because it's slower to start than programs integrated into the operating system. Do use a quickstart, and another large user base will complain. The latter at least though for the most part would be able to figure out how to turn that behavior off, so I can sympathise with their decision. Seriously now, they're trying to compete with microsoft. That's not exactly an easy endevor!
What I find very odd is all the complaints about statistic reporting.
Real: We've listened to your complaints and removed the spyware for you, given you a lean player that additionally supports ogg and which allows you to create your own gui.
User: I'm not listening to you because you have spyware in your product, you don't support ogg and I hate your gui!
Everything will be taken away from you.
- Helix DNA Client Documentation
- Helix DNA Producer Documentation
I really don't think it would be possible to put together a compelling end-user multimedia application with what you dub the "UNIX/Linux" approach (literally using small command line programs). Could you point to a successful end-user multimedia application that does?Oh, great. So now we get the RPSL, the RCSL (the latter available in three tasty flavors!), and more.... Couldn't we please just stick to GPL, LGPL, or BSD? Those three licenses cover most of the free software territory, and while I admit that reading them gives me just as much a headache as reading many other licenses, at least I only have to go through it once....
--Bruce Fields
It's not funny anymore.
I don't know why I chose that subject line, but whatever. :)
I appreciate that you recognize we're rolling up our sleeve pretty far to show there's nothing up it. The "spyware" complaints have persisted for years after someone found one rogue chunk of code that sent us a lot of useless information that was going in the bit bucket (if you look at what was being collected, it really wasn't interesting).
Nevertheless, you're absolutely right: if you don't trust us, build your own player.
If you will recall, Microsoft lobbed the first volley in the "MIME war." Their media player took over some RealNetworks mime types. RealNetworks' response was to spearhead an initiative to encourage software makers to be more forthcoming to end users about which mime types they claim. In fact, these days just about every media player allows the user to configure this via the installer. This seems to be a benefit of their fight against Microsoft.
Furthermore, I think you're mistaken on your bullet points. But then, I would have a hard time convincing someone that has already made up his mind and has no facts to defend his standpoint.
In the meantime, please feel free to enjoy Microsoft's illegal monopoly and encourage them to trample any and all of their competitors. Real is by no means perfect, but regardless of how you perceive their past conduct they are obviously trying to be better community members. And at least they aren't Microsoft.
--Nick
I really don't understand why a large number of the comments here are negative. Simply stated, Real has released a significant piece of software under what appears to be a free/open source license (The RPSL has been submitted to the OSI for certification). The open source community is certainly no worse off and probably significantly better off because of this.
So the Real codecs aren't open sourced. Well, neither is DivX nor Quicktime, but that doesn't stop DivXNetworks or Apple from being darlings of the geek community. It's true that Real clients have been extremely intrusive, but their current actions should be judged independently.
In fact, the open source community has a vested interest in the success of Real's Helix since that would demonstrate that open sourcing can be a successful *business* strategy. Open source commercial successes are few and far between, so it doesn't make sense to beat up on Real just as they are starting to do something right!
Imposing Libertarian views on everyone online since 1992.
I don't think I'm mistaken on my bullet points. And I think that Microsoft was acting just as immorally as Real by fighting the "MIME war". I was referring to Real's default option of "restoring MIME types" even when they have been changed by the user explicitly or by another installation. Sure, Real was battling Microsoft. But they were both battling against the consumer, using tactics that were definitely immoral and sneaky.
Man, even before I hit your homepage I knew you worked for Real. It's none of my business, but it looks like you've bought a little too much of their in-house propaganda. Sure, RN is trying to put on the "nice guy" face, and releasing a lot of press to support that appearance, but history has proven what kind of company you are.
Hey, did I already mention that slashdot readers are quick to judge? *confused expression*
This is like netscape winning the browser war by open sourcing its main product. Yeah they won alright 5 years later you have something that finally resembles IE in speed that 0.02% of the internet uses.
Chances are they opened this because they don't need it anymore, i.e. throwing it away.
just hilite text with your mouse, then click the middle mouse button where you want it pasted.
that's kick ass usability.
Helix is mostly open source. That's a good thing.
Some of it is not. That's unfortunate.
Real has been an annoying company, what with spyware and such. That's unfortunate.
Real is realeasing code you can either play with, or ignore. That's a good thing.
If Real gets a benefit from giving away code in terms of PR, browney points or Slashdot Karma, what's the problem, again? That would be the case because some people, somewhere, appreciated what Real did.
Of course there's a strategy behind doing so, and I suspect it isn't quick what RMS would prefer. If that weren't the case, we'd be chatting about this on Fucked Company instead of here.(Which is not to assert GPLed software can't support a company - if that were the case, I'd have a little problem.)
-j
I forget what 8 was for.
Are developers expected to preserve some kind of rivalry between open code from real and open code from apple?
What would happen if they got mixed together and were "given back" to real/helix? this is confusing, at least the last time I tried to get through the maze of documents on the helix page.
Let's hope they don't release their spam developement software on the world.. A show of hands, is RealPlayer not the biggest piece of spam trash software ever developed?
Sorry, try again.
Darwin Streaming Server can serve many file types, and many non-propritary formats. These include
MPEG-1
MPEG-4
MP3
QuickTime movies with non-propritary codecs like H.261 and H.263
QuickTIme has a packet structure for streaming, fully documented, and anyone and their dog can build a codec that can hint to a QuickTime streaming package. Heck, Darwin Streaming Server can even stream formats QuickTime can't play back, like MPEG-4 Advanced Simple.
My video compression blog
MPEG4 is a proprietary format with patent and royalty encumbrance that make it in no way superior to Real for freedom. Real offers a good balance between availability on esoteric hardware and operating systems (like Irix) and quality that none of the proprietary codecs you listed offer. Streaming MPEG1 would be ridiculous, come on. And H.261/.263 are not high enough quality. Ideally, I would use a completely open codec if source were available, and then deal with the inconvenience of requiring users to install it, but if I'm choosing between non-ideal solutions, Real is simply the best choice I can see.
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quick to judge? Now what's the time span from the original realease of *spyware* RealAudio 3 to *spyware* RealOne?
*spyware*RealAudio 3
*spyware*RealPlayer 4
*spyware*RealPlayer 5
*spyware*RealPlayer G2
*spyware*RealPlayer 7
*spyware*RealPlayer 8
quick, I think not.
Patent fees don't mean propritary. MPEG-4, as an ISO standard, is licensed under RAND - Reasonable and Non-Discriminiatory terms. This means no-one gets a sweetheart deal on using it. And it is fully published, with reference software to boot.
So, while it isn't free as in beer, it is for the most part free as in speech.
I'm hoping one of the first Helix Producer projects is to hook the Producer preprocessing engine into the MPEG4IP encoding tools (Xvid, plus AAC-LC, plus a muxer) into a good, open source MPEG-4 authoring tool.
My video compression blog
Now if they could just release the specs of their annoying proprietary rtsp handshaking and I'd be really happy!
My other account has a 3-digit UID.
Here's An interesting piece about Real's kind ways of spying on its users. It's somewhat old, yet very interesting. Dunno about what their software do now, as I've replaced with Linux my last Windows machine more than 1 year ago and currently use only 100% trusted (that is, 100% free and open source) software.
RealNetworks may be one of the most controversial companies in the Internet. Since its advent, this company made lots of right and wrong moves. So it is quite possible that it has as many fans as flaming opponents. However, they were pioneers in their field, and had had an enemy in the face of Microsoft, which played the same dirty game with them as with Netscape. These conditions were enough to have them sweet to survive. So their story is not so simple to judge.
Frankly, we should take into attention that this company appeared very, very early. By the time they came up, they produced players for Solaris and Windows was still a conundrom among Internet nodes. and their distribution policies were in fact progressive. While many commercial *NIX producers sold their products, they were giving players for free, the same way as Netscape was distributing its navigators. However, when the market changed, they made two huge errors. First a large part of their policies was kept, no matter the new market conditions. This deeply reflected in the dynamics of development of their products, as, lots of their characteristics became simply archaic. Second they choose the worst way of marketing. As pioneers, they choosed some of the early and unproved advertisment technologies for Internet. And this brought them the fame of an isolated company that loves to spam and spy over everyone.
No matter these problems, the ideology of their products is still something that is badly explored. The architecture of these systems is not strictly centralised and it has "loose" infrastructure that allows them to be used under several conditions. Still there is a huge potential in this field.
If I deny the license twice does it give me a secret option to choose another license the third time?
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
RealNetworks releases Realstream Producer, a tool for creating DNA sequences with support for multiple formats. Later on the same day, RealNetworks also stated it would lay off their current head of marketing.
Are you sure this is a great idea to post such news to Slashdot which is the lovely platform of 1000s of clueless calling your product "spyware"?
;-)
As a end user using Realplayer on all platforms I use, I already got fed up, I really wonder how people actually coding software, providing free of charge to *nix community feels?
ps: to read this comment you should browse at -1, just a feeling
my question is:
.ra & .ram lying around on my HD into, say, .ogg, or .mp3? :-).. I Tried with ffmpeg without any success so far.. Seems there are a few Whine-dose solutions, but i'm looking for a scriptable Unix one.. :-/
Will this allow me to transform the
i had a sig, once..
Unadulterated bollocks. I can edit, convert, re-encode and generally mess about with my MPEG4 clips all I want. I have to pull teeth to extract content from proprietary Real files, which use patented technology to boot.
There are open-source implementations of MPEG4 such as Xvid. With an open-source codec which can create standards-compliant streams, you have the portability required or at least the potential to be covered against the death of the company holding the keys to your media, and more importantly you have immediate control of said media - the ability to convert it to other formats, for instance.
- Chris
Real haven't had proper support on IRIX in years... Can I have a go on your crack pipe now?
Go do it yourself. With any luck the separation of the codecs from the actual player should make it possible to create a solution that doesn't require the installation of RealPlayer (8) itself.
- Chris
Real already knows my genenetic code they have so much junk watching me when I install Real software with default options. They've probably figured out a way to have my monitor probe my brain.
Paranoia? I don't think so...
I know that was supposed to come across as funny, but it also - I think intentionally - misses the point. This is a source distribution, it will not have spyware. If it did, you'd just remove it, wouldn't you? Or move on to another project, so it's a safe bet Realnetworks won't do that.
Have you got your LWN subscription yet?
This comes up over and over, so I wrote an explanation on the web where Google can find it.
It's called How does the clipboard work?.
I'm glad that Real is releasing server tools, but what about spending some time getting the Unix client tools working worth a damn.
Specifically, getting the RealOne player for Linux to not say "You don't have permission to update" whenever you try to play a file with a new codec, getting a Mozilla plug-in for RealOne so that you can use its Flash player (having a Flash player is useless without having a plugin), and making the RealOne main page have a link for the *nix community, rather than being Windows only.
In order to contact Real about these matters, first you have to find the discussion forums for the "Community Supported Player for *nix" - these seems to be hidden in a disused lavatory in the basement behind a sign saying "Beware of the Leopard" - I defy you to give me a series of links from www.real.com that gets to the forum (that does not involve a search engine).
Then, you have to post a message - one forum is down, and the others don't seem to be visited by anybody from Real.
Then, on those blessed times when a Real employee deigns to visit the forum, the ususal posting is something like "download foo at this URL". However, no mention is made of when foo was updated - usually about a year ago.
Then, should you download the player, and install it, and get the new codec packages they say will fix the problem, you find out the problem still persists.
Add to this the fact that the client gets screwed up if you are not running a 75dpi display (with a larger DPI setting the fonts are WAY too big for the space allocated for the text), and the fact that it doesn't play any new files, and the fact that the Flash player only plays local files, and the fact that the Flash player doesn't play the sound....
It seems to me that Real is simply trying to keep the server market from abandoning them for Microsoft or Icecast - hence the support for *nix in the server arena. For the clients - "If you ain't Windows, you ain't shit!" (corollary left as an exercise to the reader).
www.eFax.com are spammers
a program stealing info from another program (like IE's current_url=) and send to servers without your grant.
Does real fit it? Your browser sends info too, it also sends http_referer (if not blocked on ns or opera) too.
Or screen resolution, with a single jscript query you can read guys resolution.
IMHO that Real spyware issues are coming from paid guys AND the innocent ones tricked by them.
Multi-format, live and on-demand, real and ogg, gain control, open-source, and on top of that it's called the "DNA Producer"?
I think somebody has been listening to jwz bitch about the problems he's had streaming from his nightclub!
If you think RealPlayer has spyware watching you, then why not download the Helix Player and check the source yourself.
Some people have such an old image of Real still floating in their brains they can't see past the new innovations.. people that post old crap like this are the ones responsible for others thinking the same thing when they have no experience.
Open your eyes. In any case, if Real did have crap watching you, dont you think they would have some screen right when you installed that told you it did w/ an option to turn it off? They have enough worries (like MS) then to worry about fooling you.
I would much rather support Real then to post dribble like this and help MS.
I can hardly believe that WMP is going anywhere fast, it is a format which I believe will die just like .mod (not to say there isn't any .mod's out there still, amazing what all got packed into a .mod)
No, WMP is an annoying format for the most part, and not of the highest quality, although there is probably some fool out there that will argue it's better bla bla bla. Regardless, it is a format that is like the little spring in the mattress that pokes you now and then. Until everyone can agree that ogg is de Facto, these annoying commercial interruptions will continue to poke the ball when you wake in the morning.
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You're referring to a change RealNetwork's made in their MIME association in a G2 beta which was released after a WMP release. The WMP release had been programmed to Play Nicely with the old RN behavior, but the new RN behavior didn't make sense (and in fact was in practice, as noted, buggy). RN released a .1 update to their beta which fixed the issue. It was technically amazing that they couldn't figure this out on their own originally, but hey- now they can have help. ;)
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And, yes, hopefully they have changed now. If hypothetically there was a situation in which the President of the company had been alerted to the technical specifics of a particular bug by a friendly dev from another Hideously Evil Company, and then that hypothetical company instead decided to continue spewing PR lies for another week and pretending that other companies were complaining too, man, that'd be pretty scummy.
But that's all just hypothetical. And if the president of a different hypothetical company called up to apologize and explain that another company ghost-wrote them into the press release, man, that'd leave you perpetually amused with the ethics of a company.
It's all just hypothetical.
Microsoft bad, RealNetworks good (or getting better).
The associations stuff had to happen, really. Microsoft's documentation on this stuff sucks, and companies like RealNetworks were totally evil in permanently taking file associations. End users just can't cope with that concept. The new generation of association advertisement is a start, but it needs to and it will get better over time.
and the definition of "Deploy" (1.5):
So it sounds like R&D and personal use are okay, but using it internally in a company means you have to give a link to the source in the about box.
I signed up, promised my firstborn son, downloaded the code, read a buttload of docs on the builder and compiled up the producer apps. Shockingly, it built with no errors.
But there's no doco (or I didn't find it yet), and no hint of what the hell all these binaries are supposed to do.
I just want to convert all these useless .rm files
on my drive to MPEG (VCD specifically) so I never have to deal
with rm again. I've had zero luck getting
this done using transcode, mencoder or mjpegtools; the output always has flicker, or bad audio sync.
Has anybody figured out what this helix release actually does?
-- veni vidi nuclei deceri --- I came, I saw, I dumped core.
My mother is planning to do talk radio over the internet soon.
I was recomending she do it in mp3 and ogg.
Now however I'll change that to RealMedia and ogg.
But I'll recomend she be ready to drop RealMedia.. I already suggested this of mp3 and ogg.
Why? Real has no small history of stranding users. While Internet media started on Unix (With internet radio projects) and MacOs (With CuSeeme net confrencing) Real has chousen to make clients for Windows only.
This sense of fickleness dose not go unnoticed.
The last time I looked the current Linux client was one version behind the 'current' and still in beta.
This sort of thing is why I was refusing to recomend Real Media.
I'm sure I'm not alone in seeing this. With the spyware mistake many are probably going to see RealMedia as "Yet annother Windows format" As there is no assurence that anyone not using Windows could use it.
I don't actually exist.