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CDRW Drives Hit 52X Speeds
Sr.Mixalot writes "Just when you think you couldn't burn those shared MP3s any faster, Asus comes out with a 52X Burner. This review at Hot Hardware shows just how fast this drive is versus a Plextor 48X unit. Amazingly, this new breed of CDRW Drives can burn a complete 700MB CD in about 2.5 minutes!"
12x ought to be enough for everyone ;)
'They glow green during read operations and yellow/amber during writes.'
When is someone gonna post how to exchange the green LED for super duper bright blue?
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Are these just tricked up 48x drives like the 52x CD-ROM drives of a few years ago?
Stop corporate
Now we just need for CD-R/W media that can write *reliably* at 52x !
I can see these drives being woefully under-utilised till middle of next year...
-MT.
is it really worth paying some ghastly price per blank CD just do have it done it a minute instead of 10? It's not like many people spend all day burning discs ala factory-worker style.
That these cd-r speeds are ramping up so quickly.
After all, they are using CAV not CLV to determine it's maximum speed.
2.5 minutes is impressive until you realize that yesterdays cd-r burned in 2.51 minutes.
Besides, it's no good for me.. Playstation and Xbox games don't come out reliably if burned any higher than 4x.
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I had a 2X burner since 1997.. got it for $250.. around then.. poor thing just recently died (R.I.P), but I feel that rather than buying a new CD-RW.. i think the best bet is to purchase a DVD-RW..
;-))
After researching a bunch of CD-RW's and reviews, etc.. I went ahead and purchased a Sony DRU-500A for $310.. pricey of course, but eh..
Just got it a week ago, and I'm impressed.. the CD-RW speed is only 24x, but the main thing is I can burn DVDs as well (which have been flawless, so far
So I guess pricewise and maybe because it's still a new technology, a CD-RW might still be the best for some, but if you know DVD-RW's are round the corner and expect to get one very soon, might as well take that approach..
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This sounds a like a perfect recipe for Senseless Explosion
... I just want solid, reliable recording first. Sounds like the cart is being put before the horse first. I want a CD-R that's gonna burn perfectly every time. I don't care how fast it is. Burning something at 52x 4 times to get it to work (and making 3 coasters in the process) is slower than burning it at 12x. Besides, CD-R isn't generally a process that is needed to be done fast. It's for dupes or backups. Right now, I burn at 4x and it works every time. I won't go every faster until the drives/software are better.
I recall there was some experimentation to determine the maximum possible speed for existing cd drivers. What was found was that as one approached 100x, the physical media commonly used today would shatter. Sorry captain, she just wont take it! So, unless materials used for cd's change, there is an upper limit to this cd x speed madness...
I wonder how this compares to other 52x drives out there like the LiteOn 52x24x52?
I find that the faster you burn CD's at, the more regular CDROM drives have issues reading them. And this isnt with cheap media either - I always use Sony or TDK or similar.
We have a nice 30 something speed plextor CDRW at work, but whenever I burn something there, I set it down to about 12 or 16 speed to make sure its going to work ok on my Pioneer DVD drive at home.
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First, Lite-on had a 52x drive for a while now. Secondly, even 24x drives burn a cd in 2.5 minutes. Thirdly, this is just a blatant plug for a shitty hardware review site.
I guess that the higher numbers sound kind of cool, but when the thing has a glitch that flings the CD-R media out of the drive at 5000mph, nearly severing your head and wedging itself in your stereo, you've just gotta ask yourself "Is burning a CD 2 minutes faster worth the risk?"
That's still a lot slower than the matter generator on Star Trek. When the hell are we going to get those? :-D
it has been perfected.
DVD burners are really looking good these days. At 4x DVD you can burn the equivalent of 8 CD's on 1 DVD in 15 minutes.
Faster, more convenient and occupies less space on that already crowded CD rack.
I could use the speed. Where I work we sometimes need to create presentations for clients in Director/Flash etc and these will need to be replicated onto multiple CDs - upto around 100 or so.. We use a standard CD RW for doing this.. if I am able to save 30 seconds on writing any CD, and I am doing 100 CDs.. I save a cool 50 minutes, which is not bad considering how boring the activity really is.
Also, we could use the speed when we need to backup the servers onto CD ROMs..
I think the limit is around 60x, although I have seen many older cd's or cd's that are well used fly apart in a 56x. I suppose you could probably go a bit faster than 60x, but you'd need specialized media.
Amazingly, this new breed of CDRW Drives can burn a complete 700MB CD in about 2.5 minutes!"
My trusty 16x CDRW can burn a 700 MB CDR in about 5 minutes, and faster burners give slightly better performance. (For the uninitiated, faster burners (24x and higher) write most of the CDR slower than their "maximum" speed.) This CDRW is probably only running at 52x for a minor portion of the burn.
OTOH, the CDRW speeds are starting to ramp up nicely. I like using CDRWs to back up files, but even at 10x it can take a while to burn a full disk. For many CDRW enthusiasts, the big story isn't the "quantum leap" from 48x to 52x, its the CDRW speeds.
It's quite amusing that you associate mp3's with thievery. Kinda shows that the brainwashing by the Recording Industry has been quite successfull.
That would be sooo nice... maybe our grandchildren will see it
Lite-On has had a 52x/24x/52x model out for a long time now. It started selling at Newegg.com in the beginning of november for about $79
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CowboyNeal: It can burn a cd in 2.5 minutes.
Homer: Aww 2.5 minutes. I want it now!
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Looks like we're getting within an order of magnitude of the theoretical limits of CD-burning! PIO mode 4 caps at 16.7M/sec, which is about 111x, less than double! I bet soon we'll be seeing UDMA or even ATA/66/100/133 CD-R/DVD-R drives... I imagine there's a need for some extra headroom as far as IDE bus bandwidth is concerned...
This actually raises an interesting thought...supposing your drive is 52x at PIO4, would you get a buffer underrun if both the source and destination drive in a burn operation are on the same IDE channel? It would seem, then, that you'd want, at a minimum, slightly more than double the bandwidth of the writer in the IDE bus that it sits on...
Hmmm...
"If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards."
Thus the headline should read 28.32x burner released, compared with 28x, saves you 15 seconds!!
Yawn.
If you are primarily concerned with audio cd quality then check out Yamaha. Tom's hardware did some analysis on their unique (afaik) audio mastering features a while back.
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Which was a bigger deal, the jump from 2X to 4X or 48X to 52X? Even ignoring the fact that the faster drives use a form of CAV and not CLV, a jump from 48 to 52 is...
And I don't want to hear from those people who say "well i've burned 100's of cd's at 48X and they all work fine for me." Yeah, in that one cdrom you use them in. Have you ever used the nero testing utility to check the number of C1 errors on those "perfect" disks of yours? Yeah they may work on your drive, but how about someome elses? And how about a year from now when they have a few scratches in them? I for one would hate to maintain multiple versions of disks, one for me, and one for everyone else.
In the end it all comes down to this. How much time does 52X save if you just have to burn it again anyway?
My advice is this....if you're getting a new burner, by all means get a fast one. When you start using new media, run some tests to find a safe speed, and then stick with that. But to those of you who ditch your perfectly fine 32X+ writer to buy a new 52X one...I think you're fools.
-Chris
--an unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys--
Modern Copyright is a draconian misinterpretation of the ethical copyright, originating in the American constitution. The modern copyright legislation is all based on laws passed as a result of high pressure from organization such as MPAA and RIAA. Thus, it is not unethical to not abide by these copyright laws.
Also, copyright infringement is by no means identical, similar or matching to the definition of "stolen" in the dictionary. Note that almost all definitions of theft insist that the stolen item must be removed completely, at least temporarily, from its rightful owner. Thus, as you see, copyright infringement cannot be classified as theft -- at least not in English.
The MPAA and RIAA have even managed to brainwash people like you into associating MP3's with copyright infringement, where in fact they are simply an audio compression format.
Let's say you're burning an 80 minute CD. At the theoretical max speed of the burner, here's how it breaks down:
speed time improvement
1 80.00 --
2 40.00 50%
4 20.00 50%
8 10.00 50%
12 6.67 33%
16 5.00 25%
24 3.33 33%
32 2.50 25%
40 2.00 20%
48 1.67 17%
52 1.54 8%
Notice that you get a 33% increase going from 8x to 12x, but only 8% going from 48x to 52x. Because speed and time are inversely related, you get a hyperbolic function that gives you diminishing returns on your time savings with each speed increment. You save 40 minutes going from 1x to 2x, but 1:40 going from 24x to 48x. Drives are marketed by speed, but the real benefit to the user is time.