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The 20th Anniversary of the Internet
Ross Finlayson writes "In a message posted to the IETF general mailing list, Bob Braden reminds us that, on January 1st, 2003, 20 years will have passed since "the most logical date of origin of the Internet [...] when the ARPANET officially switched from the NCP protocol to TCP/IP". And the rest is history..."
After all this time one would think that this ridiculous, ignorant, petty Republican FUD would have been laughed out of existence. For the nth time, read it and this time please try to understand:
t im e-bold-0009/msg00161.html
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http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/net
Couple of significant quotes from Bob Kahn and Vint Cert:
"VC> Bob and I believe that the vice president deserves significant credit for
VC> his early recognition of the importance of what has become the Internet."
"...But as the two people
>who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
>Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a
>Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to
>our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of
>time."
So yes, Al Gore did take a position of leadership in the creation of the Internet. He helped keep penny-pinching nearsighted legislators from killing it, because he was one of the few people in power who "got it".
Happy new year everyone!
Too bad that the last five years have seen the decline of the original intent of the internet to degrade to a cesspool of spam, RIAA/MPAA crap, popups, overmarketization, the ZD "stupidity factor" and other pure bullshit that we put up with every day.
... the good old days.
Anyone else harking for the days of gopher and html 3.2? Sure, the "market capitilization" was horrible, but you know what, NNTP was actually useful back then. No google? Some industrous person on would point you to the right place, as a common courtesy. Sharing of knowledge. Ahhhh
Now we're deluged with a flash-crippled web with no regards to any kind of standards, where any moron can masquerade as a "developer" and make a ton of money for being an idiot. yeah, I may sound stupid in today's context, but someone like Alan Ralsky was impossible back in the day.
Bring back the meritocracy of the internet - you remember? The place where you were entitled to an opinion if you were intelligent enough to actually learn and connect.
Discriminatory? Hell yes, mod me down. Being more intelligent than the average Joe never hurt anyone....
Ummm, no.
While NCP can also mean Netware Core Protcol, in this case it means "Network Control Protocol", a much older protocol that dates back to the beginning of the ARPAnet circa 1970, and has squat to do with Netware.
NCP is documented in RFCs 55, 60, 215 and several others.
I just can't resist. Remember what you all need to sing at midnight in your respective time zone...
Should older packets become dumped
and never brought online,
Let newer packets take their place
on all our T-1 lines!
(I wonder if my older karma will be forgotten?)
Bruce Lane, KC7GR,
Blue Feather Technologies
So, the internet left NCP 20 years ago... How long until Novell figures it out?
Repeat after me... It's a Joke, It's a Joke, It's a Joke. And when you tell me about factual inaccuracies, guess what I'm going to tell you?
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
If you mean the web.. fine.
Nowadays though..
you can route your PBX through a VOIP provider and get really cool phone service, and rates, from anywhere you can get bandwidth.
We trade entire movies online like it ain't no big thing.
Same for music.
Videoconferencing. You may not have seen high quality video conferencing via the internet.. but I sure have.. and it is indeed impressive.
Education. It's easier than ever to look up any kind of information now than ever before.. increased advertising yes.. but also increased information. Howstuffworks.com and it's type are awesome learning tools, for all ages.
Open forums, debates, person info like blogs, are huge now. Don't care? Maybe not.. but it's fairly easy to see what othe rpeople really think. Go back to reading magazines if you want... think some guy who failed highschool, has an iq of 40.. you don't want his opinion on something? Don't want to know what he thinks? You should, because he votes.
Etc.
agnostic reply below
al did do alot on the legislative side. just like (this gets little recognition) Dan Quayle was the legislative sponsor (and fought hard for i'll add) the Patriot missile as a senator. he does deserve credit for seeing the future way back then . . . .
even tho i voted Gore in y2k, i still think the humor (and a better spelling too i might add) is really funny! didn't you people see SNL couple weeks back?? i'm sure even Al likes it at this point.
what are all you Lusers doing debating this old issue on /. on New Years EVE fur gosh sakes??????
t - 01:07 remaining in year.
i'm smokin sum good stuff and going out. laters everyone, have fun
"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel
Here's an Internet host list from 1981:
From: POSTEL at USC-ISIF
To: mike.bmd70 at BRL
27-May-81 16:52 JBP
GATEWAYS
COMPUTERS
My first collection of bookmarks was scrawled on paper, and titled "Servers", since none of us had heard of "Bookmarks" yet.
Anyone have an old copy of the Internet Yellowpages sitting in their shelf? (Or in their basement...)
I remember how cool we though it was to download gif images of weather maps from University of Michigan. We didn't have to wait for the news to see an up to date weather map! Think of how commonplace that is today.
-Pete
Soccer Goal Plans
Here's to free-thinkers...may they continue to retain the right to question things.
/. people, whether friend, foe, or freak; you make me think.
Here's to academics...may they continue their research.
Here's to the hacker ethic which played a large part in the creation of the Net.
And here's to all of you
Happy New Year!
--K.
Sig: Bad people happen. Try to avoid being one of them.
and thinking, " You know, someday this will be in color, and text will be WYSIWYG and the screen will look like *paper*, with black text."
I was a visionary in my 30's. And I was right. We got it, and it was good, in fact it was awsome.
I was also a naive twit in my 30's. Nowadays I've "devolved" into reading mail in text mode using mutt. Dark background, white 80 column text you can read from halfway across a thirty foot room, and it's good. In fact, it's awsome.
A CRT isn't paper. Different rules apply. Your eyes, and the eyes of your readers, will thank you for realizing this.
Ah well, at least it's better than those websites that print black text on a textured navy blue background.
KFG
... until you're old enough to drink, Internet!
Until then, I guess you have to stick to what you're best at: porn and gambling.
Happy Birthday Internet!
-Michael
Threshold RPG
that's generally a sign of maturation of any technology. It happens. There's only so much "new" to go around, and then you've used it up.
You can see signs of it throughtout the entire computer industry too. They're starting to sell chrome like it's a technological feature. They only have to do that when they've run out of *actual* new technological features to sell. "Buy our OS, it's got prettier widgets and shit."
There was that "smell-O-vision" thingy that someone said they were working on a while ago. Man, just wait to you get hit with a "popup" perfume ad with that sucker. Maybe nothing new is a Good Thing?
KFG
A Synapse in Rob Malda's head fired, marking the beginnings of what would become Slashdot.
Jan 1, 2003: The second synpapse in Rob Malda's head fired, resulting in a duplicate article.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and there was no Spam.
And the Spirit of God moved slowly through modems.
And God said, Let there be speed: and there was speed.
And God saw the speed, that it was good: and God divided the slow from the fast.
And God called the speed true Broadband Internet, and the slow he called AOL.
And the evening and the morning were the first day.
(apologies)
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
I took the initiative in creating the Internet
That has 2 interprestations:
1/ I took the initiative by creating the internet
2/ The initiative I took led to the creation of the internet.
Obviously he ment interpretation 2, as, if he meant interpretation 1 he would have just said it. The fact is the difference between in & by means alot, even though those definitions overlap.