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The Collective Voice of the Internet
nycheetah submits a story about the collective voice of the internet. There's also a Bell Labs webpage with some more technical information about the project.
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There was no moaning in the background. The collective voice of the internet would have lots and lots of lustful outcries. Afterall, the majority of the internet is populated with porn.
More p0rn !
...we suddenly realized it just said "Duh!?" over and over again ;-)
Well that's all and good, but I really would like to meet the 'internet' on the street. Could you imagine what sort of person it would be?
I'd be expecting a cross dressing mental patient complete with tinfoil hat dribbling nonsense at a mind boggling rate only allowing you to catch a few words here and there like "faked moon landing", "brittney spears nude", "you camping fag!" and "you're transmitting an IP address!".
Of course I wouldnt have to give it any money, It would have already taken my credit card numbers for it's own penis enlargement addiction.
Be you Admins? nay, we are but lusers!
WARNING: The collective voice of Bell's admins will not be suitable for young children.
What makes a man want to be a mouse? (Python's Flying Circus)
"There's also a Bell Labs webpage with some more technical information about the project."
Great, but so far, you haven't provided any information. I thought that the purpose of the summary was to summarise. How is anyone supposed to know whether this article is worth reading if you don't tell us what it's about?
Maybe they can use this principle for security, too... have some "Rain Man"-type sit in a chair and monitor the composite sounds of the internet, scanning for a particular pattern.
I wonder what the sound of a DDOS would be? A waterfall? Maybe a port scan would be a rising set of tones? And some cop in a LOLITA chat room would sound like (what else?) the theme from Jaws.
I've got a bad attitude and karma to burn. Go ahead. Mod me down.
People may think this is a ridiculous question, but perhaps one that needs to be asked. First to put it in context. Inside most human brains are about a billion connections that communicate to a greater and lesser extent to those synapses directly in contact with them. The collective 'noise' from the electrical charges between the synapses somehow gives form to human consciousness. The electrical energy helps store memories and a bunch of other things, too.
I read an article once by an Australian author Peter Goldsworthhy (if anyone is interested it is in his book Navel Gazing) that pondered whether or not China could collectively gain a consciousness, based on the same principle. (A billion people, all in contact with those around them, much as synapses are). I don't know how many people are connected to the web, but using a healthy dose of hope and suspending disbelief, does anyone have any ideas on whether or not the web can gain a consciousness?
Keep it down out there! Someone could be viewing this from a library.
I've explored the concept of proximity and simultaneity of presence within my own work, but do it on a website instead of within an installation.
On my site we basically track where people are, but limit you knowing WHO those people are by using affinity relationships gleaned by your buddy list.
The presentation of this information is in the form of a line similar to this:
"There are 3 people here with you and 5 people near you.
BUDDIES: Ethank, Ethank2"
The site is broken down into a series of interconnected and hierarchically laid out "rooms." Rooms don't necessarily correspond directly to a page, but roughly they do. Within the discussion board for instance, a forum is a room and every thread within that forum a room under that room (so the forum is its parent).
The way that the "here/near" works is by looking at not only who is in your current room (page) but also who is in rooms one level below in the hierarchy. Some places on the site have indicators on links showing how many people are currently in the room it leads to (to instigate flocking behavior in things like news stories).
We implemented the system 6 months ago and I'm surprised on how willingly people adapted to it. If you look at an overhead view of the site, its shown that the proximity to other users in many tangible ways dictates usage patterns, as well as makes the site feel less like a ghost town.
So where does this lead us? I want to explore more into this notion of reified third-space that this brings up, collapsing space/time into singularity and exploring the notion not of client-server individual experiential models but more of a shared one.
But, instead of in an installation that distills numerous ingress points into an aural landscape, why not actually make this proximity and user awareness transparent on existing sites?
I'm all for good installations (am doing one in April kind of similar to this, but dealing with the physical layer of the Internet), but as a student am more drawn toward subtle almost performative art within the context of Internet participation.
people watching it at the same time. When I wash my car, read a book, eat dinner or just take a leak there are perhaps millions engaging in the same activity at the same time.
Big deal. It isn't some mystical fact. Just a fact. It conveys no information other than the fact that there are billions of people who at any given time are doing one of a fairly limited set of things.
We read greater things into it primarily because we are wired to seek acceptence from the tribal unit by behaving in similar fashions to the group. Geeks are nonconformists, although they tend to be nonconformist in the same sense that hippies and Japanese teens are "nonconformist." i.e., conform the same as me or you are "out."
The idea of someone surfing the same page as you at the same time gives the illusion of "group membership" with that person even though no such "group" actually exists.
It's a literal "feel good" idea of no actual signifigance. Your "group" membership is actually far closer with the guy that stocked the shelves at the supermarket where you buy your food or that damned cop who wouldn't let you off with a warning.
This is not to say that real groups aren't forged over the internet. Just that they aren't any more "golly gee" than any other such tenuous groups, like everyone who watched Friends last night.
KFG
now if they did a vocaliztion of the slashdot crowd....
err wait...i don't know how many times i can hear "M$ sucks" over and over without cracking.
Countless others are with you when you browse the web, some reading the same words at the same time, and yet you have no way of sensing their presence. /. effect? Seems one way to sense the presence of a lot of people.
How about the
The best weapon of a dictatorship is secrecy, but the best weapon of a democracy should be the weapon of openness.
I'm reading _Common Sense_ on the palm right now, and find this quote interesting in relation to this story:
Could the straggling thoughts of individuals be collected, they would frequently form materials for the wise and able men to improve into useful matter
M@
Krispy Cream is people
at least until PopUp blocking browsers like Mozilla/Galeon get mainstream
The rest will just keep clicking and clicking and clicking...
Wait a minut, does that means popups are powered by Duracell? =:O
Carbon based humanoid in training.
All I heard was a company spying on the general public.
A Good Troll is better than a Bad Human.
The voices had just the right tone for :
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:)
Captain : What happen?
Mechanic : Someone set us up the bomb!
Operator : We get signal.
Captain : What!
Operator : Main screen turn on.
Captain : Its you!!
Cats : How are you gentlemen!!
Cats : All your base are belong to us.
Cats : You are on the way to destruction.
Captain : What you say!!
Cats : You have no chance to survive, make your time.
Cats : Ha ha ha ha
Sorry..
"Hey! Unless this is a nude love-in, get the hell off my property!!"