Competition To Find Aussie PM's Email Address

Internet Ninja writes "While we can all send anti-war emails to 'president' of the USA and even the Australian opposition, nobody can email the Prime Minister of Australia. So the opposition party started a competition to track it down as reported in Australias Sydney Morning Herald."

Comments

That's going to be as hard to find

[t0qer]

as Paul Hogan at the Oscars

Re:That's going to be as hard to find

[swordboy]

Not really - some groups often set up extranet's that they assume to be private when they really aren't. A while ago, FOX took over Speedvision because it was becoming very popular, yet didn't show much in the way of FOX's ASSCAR (Redneck's turning left). FOX saw this as a threat, so they conveniently bought up the station so they could cram the content down the viewers throats - the US seems to be hip to eating up *whatever* is delivered to them.

In all, I became frustrated so I scoured the net for some information. It turned out that there was an "affiliate" site set up by FOX that was completely open and unsecured. I was able to get some stuff... Here are the regional VP's contact info:

Northeast
CT, DE, DC, MN, NH, NJ, NY, PA, RI, VT, WV
Bill Lyons

(212) 822-9023

blyons@foxcable.com
1211 Avenue of the Americas
31st Floor
New York, NY 10036

Central
IL, IN, IA, KS, MN, MD, MA, MI, MO, NE, ND, OH, SD, WI
Ken Tremback

ktremback@foxcable.com

(314) 206-7029
700 St. Louis Union Station
Suite 300
St. Louis, MO 63103

Southeast
AL, FL, GA, KY, MS, NC, SC, TN, VA, Puerto Rico & Caribbean
Chris Killebrew

(404) 230-7317

ckillebrew@foxcable.com
1175 Peachtree Street N.E.
100 Colony Square, Suite 200
Atlanta, GA 30361

Southwest
AR, CO, ID (Southern), LA, MT, OK, TX, UT, WY
Rob Evanko

(972) 868-1801

revanko@foxcable.com
100 East Royal Lane
Suite 200
Irving, TX 75039

West
AK, AZ, CA, HI, ID (panhandle), NV, NM, OR, WA
Matt Cacciato

(310) 286-3713

mcacciato@foxcable.com
10000 Santa Monica Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90067

Go ahead and ping them if you aren't happy with their decisions as of late (Futurama, etc).

Get rid of aussie spam.

[www.sorehands.com]

Once the PM's email is made public, he will get tons of spam.

How long do you think it will take them to write laws to kill spam and execute spammers?

Re:Get rid of aussie spam.

[mpe]

Once the PM's email is made public, he will get tons of spam.

He's probably more concerned about getting "flamed" right now.

Re:Get rid of aussie spam.

[h4mmer5tein]

"Once the PM's email is made public, he will get tons of spam.

How long do you think it will take them to write laws to kill spam and execute spammers?"

And this is a bad thing because........?

Re:Get rid of aussie spam.

[Foddrick]

Hold it. In Australia all we do is give spammers a good booting.

heh...

[rgoer]

"While we can all send anti-war emails to 'president' of the USA..."

I didn't know Dick Cheney's email address was made public...

Email him here

[Anonymous Coward]

Providing a Feedback form rather than just an email address is a very good way of limiting the spam that the PM would receive.

Re:Email him here

[echucker]

.... and by reading the article, you would have noticed that the opposition party has already acknowledged the existance of said form. They want a direct email address.

Re:Email him here

[DJPenguin]

So if he had an email address, that would definately be read by him?

Do you really think that when you email Mr. Bush at the white house, that little voice says "You've got mail" and he turns round in his chair to click on it?

I'm sure whitehouse.gov email gets read and responded to by secretaries too.

Re:Email him here

[InadequateCamel]

Actually, Georgie used to check his messages in just that manner, but once the anthrax scares started up he had someone else handle his mail. ;-D

publicity stunt

[Anonymous Coward]

this is a pretty funny publicity stunt.

as the labor party is well aware, federal politician's email addresses are pseudonyms and changed quickly if they fall into the 'wrong hands'.

furthermore all senior federal politicians have access to the other email addresses, so the labor party already has johnny's email address.

Re:NO SUBJECT!

[Anonymous Coward]

Ya, email will stop America from doing what needs to be done.

Considering America has shown no intention of doing what actually needs to be done (renouncing terrorism and stopping the arming and funding of terrorism would be a good start) how can anything, including email, stop them?
Instead the US prefers to send another few billion in the direction of the biggest terrorist mob in the Middle East.

e-mail him from here

[patch-rustem]

You can e-mail the Prime Minister by following the steps set out if you folloe this link . .

http://www.pm.gov.au/your_feedback/feedback.h tm

Anti-war petitions

[Kingpin]

I've recently received chain-letter-like anti-war petitions, stating that they origin from the UN that are in the process of gathering signatures.. (Why they would want to do that is beyond me). These are hoaxes, but how do I convince the people that send me these, that this is the case? I have tried pointing them to the page at the UN that explains that they don't do petitions, that didn't work.

Could it be, that these mails have some effect, despite they are not from the UN, I mean, do they end up on someones desk, or in a killfile?

Re:Anti-war petitions

[Charm]

These are hoaxes, but how do I convince the people that send me these, that this is the case?

I used to get a lot of these. First find a case of that letter on a anti hoax site saying that it is a hoax. Reply and tell them they have been hoaxed. If they are forwarding it to a lot of people then forward the anti-hoax information as well. Having backup from a anti-hoax site reinforces your statement and they will look like an ass and think twice before sending such letters again.

Some Anti-hoax sites
Hoax Busters
Virus Myths
Just search on google for urban legends and you will get more sites.

Re:Anti-war petitions

[GregWebb]

Why doesn't Outlook Express show the BCC field, though? Have to turn on 'Rich headers' to get it...

Anyway... I tend to regard this ignorance of BCC as very useful. Means whenever I receive such mail I can explain this to all their friends as well as just them. Not only do I get many times the opportunities for cluestick practice but all now understand that such a mail can lead to public shame. Very useful :-)

Re:Anti-war petitions

[Corporate Troll]

Means whenever I receive such mail I can explain this to all their friends as well as just them.

Yes, I have done this many times. Virus warnings, chain letters, urban legends, Viruses itself. However, people absolutely hate it when you do that: You get flames back stating "don't spam me", or "who the fuck are you?". Normal people don't understand email. Of course, it also might have to do with the fact that I often have a sarcastic undertone in my emails.

Email Address

[ZenJabba1]

J.Howard.MP@aph.gov.au

Taken from an old usenet posting when he was still a MP, and it doesn't bounce, so I'm assuming its good

Re:Email Address

[Tyreth]

Seems to bounce now. I think they may have changed it?

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. J.Howard.MP@aph.gov.au

Re:Is It Just Me...

[alister]

Mate.

I hope you're not suggesting that:

a) Australians can't be nerds or geeks
b) that finding little Johnny's email address isn't a valid exercise for said nerds and geeks

Maybe there are just a lot of us around. And, after all, where does Samba come from?

Alister

Re:Care to provide a link?

[ZenJabba1]

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie =UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=J%2EHoward%2EMP%40aph%2Egov%2Eau

Seems to work fine for me without a problem

Re:Is It Just Me...

[tenjah]

Yes, well, perhaps you haven't quite yet worked out that the INTERNET is an INTERNATIONAL medium, and that what with AUSTRALIA being a COUNTRY in the WORLD then you are very likely to have stories concerning it.

Particularly more so than the somewhat less "developed" countries such as Khazakstan, Guatemala, and Bangladesh where little tech news/discoveries/events are happening..

I'm guessing you are an american right? Too bad, but I have no axe to grind. I aint an Aussie either, but it's people like you who make this Americans annoyed by all this international shit on the internet report all the funnier.

Anyone noticed the amount of american stories appearing on /. recently? Give me a break son.

Oh, and the relevancy of the story to readers is inherent to the competition to discover the PM of Australia's email addre....ahh...forget it

so many to choose from!

[ardiri]

doing a search on yahoo.com (people search) is normally a pretty good start, and, a few interesting ones i found in the list of 200 or so are:

gstjohnny yahoo.com.au
john_howard_pm_2000 yahoo.com.au
pm_john_howard hotmail.com
johnhowardmp yahoo.com
nakedhornyguy yahoo.com (hahaha)

now, first - i have to apologize to all those other John Howards out there (yes, even the multiple in australia) for having to share this name - i really cannot believe the guy is still in power.

oh.. and, how many guys will respond for a measy crate of coke and $100 or linux software? (isn't most linux software = free?). maybe someone at SMH just wants john to be spammed.

Re:Australians reaping what they sowed

[Tyreth]

The difference is Australians don't pretend that they are some Righteous God-Fearing nation that is the Light of the World, and represents the Forces of Good against the hordes of evil.

Australians have no problem (well, I don't) in admitting their faults, and have no motivation to pretend that they are holy or righteous when in fact they aren't.

Re:Anti-American sentiment

[cranos]

How is this anti-american? Its a publicity stunt from the opposition party playing on our PM's well known techno-phobia.

I for one am glad the Labor party has finally settled on a platform re Iraq. To me it seems quite hipocritical to pound one dictatorship into the ground for suspision of having Weapons of Mass Destruction and yet play the softly softly game with another that we KNOW has Nukes.

Check your facts before you spout off.

DUH!

[indiigo]

It says it right there!

Send comments about this site to the WEBMASTER

He's obviously running the site himself to throw everyone off!

This is pointless

[bobthevirus]

Seems to me as though this isn't going anywhere anyway, i mean, how will we know that its the right address??

Quit wasting your time here

[Anonymous Coward]

Fark is running a make fun of slashdot photoshop thread -- simply priceless.

The British Way

[Tomun]

Perhaps they should try this tactic ?

Ok, what ithe heck

[Sycraft-fu]

is with the quotes around president? Yes people, George Bush is the president of the United States. You may not like him or agree with his politics, you may even think he's a moron, that's fine you aren't alone. He is, however, the president and of that there is no debate.

Re:Ok, what ithe heck

[nagora]

there was no election for PM.

Which is fair enough in a party system. The US system doen't fill me with excitement at the idea of having a separate election. If we'd don it that way then Thatcher would have stayed in power for ANOTHER two years before we could kick her out. It makes no more sense to vote for PM than it would to vote for leader of the opposition or chancellor of the exchequer. They are all just cabinet posts and the pary can fill them as it sees fit.

Labour leader ('elected' mostly by the unions)

Labour leader is elected by the Labour MP's and Blair wouldn't get many union votes today if they did have any say in it.

at least Americans had an election for President, where you could vote for or against Bush; Britain did not hold one in the first place!

Why do you think this is a big deal? We voted (or not) for parties in the full knowledge of who their leaders were and those leaders were a substantial factor in the way people voted.

TWW

Re:Ok, what ithe heck

[nagora]

I wonder, do Britons care very much about who their MPs are? Do they go to the polls thinking about how great Tony Blair is but hating the labor MP candidate for their district and vote for him anyway because he's labor and they want Blair for PM?

It's wrong to generalise.

But I'll do it anyway.

I think most people here do vote on party lines although it might be truer to say that they vote on policy lines. If the party supports a policy they like then people will vote for it, especially if they think the leader of the party will push that policy. So, if the PM is kicked out by the party mid-term as happened to Thatcher, people might still be happy if the policies are still what they want (not in that particular case, however).

In some places the individiual candidate matters, particularly in marginal seats, but the reality is that no one likes politicians and most of them are as dull as the next so it usually doesn't matter. The issue of who the leader of the party is very mixed. Currently Blair is pretty well hated but Labour are seen as better than the other options while the Labour MPs themselves can't decide if the bloodbath unleased by giving him the boot would leave them in power and none of them want to start the experiment. Iraq is the first time I've seen Blair under any real pressure from public opinion but, again, there are no obvious alternatives in the other parties so I doubt that he'll have any trouble joining in the attack when the time comes.

My guess would be that given the strength of the parties in Britain your individual MP wouldn't matter all that much, since they're almost always vote the party line which is mostly directed by the PM.

This is quite true of all the parties, not just the governing one that the PM belongs to: each party has its "whips" which tell the sheep, er...MPs how to vote. The whips have a lot of power since being dropped by the party at the next election for being a trouble maker is normally a one-way ticket to palookaville (sp?) since the voters will just vote for your faceless replacement. Again, there are a few exceptions but they are very, very rare indeed.

many people deliberately split their vote between President and congress

It is worth noting that the PM has very reduced powers compared to the President so this doesn't make as much sense over here; there's no real way in which the PM's power needs to be balanced by putting a different party in opposition to it. There are more differences in the two systems than most PMs would like, I think.

TWW

Re:Ok, what ithe heck

[bcboy]

> However inaccurate the counting in Florida is - and I think virtually everyone agrees it was a close run thing, however you count it

This just isn't true. It wasn't close. Between the "Jews for Buchanan" vote and the Democratic voters that brother Jeb arbitrarily threw off the voter rolls, Florida overwhelmingly tried to vote for Gore.

In any case, the voting results weren't used. The Supreme Court justified installing Bush by pointing to press accounts of the election. Bush was elected by Fox News.

The take-home lesson: your vote doesn't count; what the media report counts.

Re:Australians reaping what they sowed

[Mark (ph'x)]

Criminals? Actually Australians are most likely to be a blend of many different cultures... and generally we are a racially tolarant country. Most of them are people that have chosen to come and live in our great country... and when I look at your DMCA etc, i truly believe that Australia is the real Land of the Free.

I'm fortunate to live in a country whose leaders dont see it as their business to poke into the affairs of other nations. I think its great that in every crisis we can get away with sending a few rowboats and a handful of troops to keep dictator Bush happy.

Our nation is of peace and tolerance. The US seems to be about profit and imposing its 'freedoms' on others by force.

Im proud to be Australian.

Please dont take enclosed joke too seriously ;)

There was an Aussie, an American and an African father in the maternity ward... and the nurse announces that all the births were successful, however the staff had got the babies mixed up. The fathers would have to go in and identify their child. So the Aussie grabs the African baby and says 'This black one must be mine!'. 'Surely sir this is the African mans baby?'. 'Well, maybe... but one of the others is American, and i cant take that risk'

Karma: Rock Bottom, mostly due to insulting all the american mods :D

I don't like Feedback Forms (was: Email him here)

[Advocadus Diaboli]

I don't like those fancy feedback forms for some simple reasons:

1. They force me to fill out fields with things like my name or address and that's something what my email-client or my signature would provide automatically.
2. There is usually no way to store what I wrote there in my email archives. But I like to file my outgoing messages.
3. They always want my mail address but they want to hide their own mail address.

Re:Is It Just Me...

[zwoelfk]

1. I agree with you, Americans have a tendency to believe that anything they read on the net should be relevent to them. However, they aren't the only ones.

2. Slashdot isn't the internet. I'm very happy to see international stories on Slashdot, but the expectation of the original poster that Slashdot not post too many non-US-related stories is understandable given this from the FAQ:

Slashdot seems to be very U.S.-centric. Do you have any plans to be more international in your scope?

Slashdot is U.S.-centric. We readily admit this, and really don't see it as a problem. Slashdot is run by Americans, after all, and the vast majority of our readership is in the U.S. We're certainly not opposed to doing more international stories, but we don't have any formal plans for making that happen. All we can really tell you is that if you're outside the U.S. and you have news, submit it, and if it looks interesting, we'll post it.

Answered by: CmdrTaco
Last Modified: 10/28/00

3. The original poster was trolling. Don't feed the trolls! TIA.

You are wrong

[Cpt_Corelli]

Why email Saddam Hussein? If you have followed recent news you will find that it is the US that is about to invade Iraq, not the other way around.

I bet that the coming US invasion of Iraq will end up in this list pretty soon...

Linux.conf.au

[Dnigh]

Considering Linux Conf.au kicked off today, maby the Labour Council is just looking to give geeks something to do between presentations ?

Seriously though, this is just a cheap publicity stunt for the Labour Council and should be treated as such.

Try pm@pm.gov.au

[Skevos Mavros]

j.howard.mp@aph.gov.au might be the correct address, but I would guess it just forwards to whoever is looking after whatever Mr Howard's portfolio was at that time (you didn't give a date to the usenet posting).

A little birdy told me (I briefly worked in the Australian Federal Public Service a long time ago, and I have a few friends that still do) to try pm@pm.gov.au instead. Though I'm betting it forwards to the same place that web site form seems to go to - webmaster@pm.gov.au.

Anyway, I don't really see the point of this "competition", even from a publicity stunt point of view. No one REALLY thinks that the Australian PM (or the US President or the French President etc) sits at his desk each morning, opens up Outlook/KMail/whatever and checks his incoming email, do they?

Maybe they think the PM opens all his own mail too. And that he really does write every word of every document that has his signature on it...

Anybody got Saddam's e-mail address?

[Walles]

I'd like to know where to send my anti-dictatorship e-mail. Anybody got Saddam's e-mail address?

Re:Anybody got Saddam's e-mail address?

[Kamel Jockey]

Anybody got Saddam's e-mail address?

press@uruklink.net. This account was broken into recently as well. Although this is a "press" email, it is the one that appears on Saddam's own webpage.

Sounds familiar

[popeydotcom]

The guys at Bloggerheads have been doing a similar task to find the email of Tony Blair (British PM for those not in the know).

Slightly different as Tony promised that he would release his email address, but so far has not. Quite funny, worth a read.

Well this should narrow it down...

[labratuk]

...it has to be

bruce@ something

Ummm....

[hbean]

http://www.pm.gov.au/your_feedback/feedback.htm appears to be a form to email the australian PM. Unless I'm blind and the words "Email the Prime Minister" don't mean that anymore.

Re:oh dear god

[diodegod]

Once the PM's email is made public, he will get tons of spam.

He's probably more concerned about getting "flamed" right now.

For all you non-Australians out there, I'm guessing you haven't heard of the horrific bushfires plaguing our capital city (Canberra, where the Prime Minister lives, hence the PM getting "flamed". I hate it when I have to explain jokes). Maybe the 4 dead and 400 homes razed to the ground (the last I heard of it) doesn't warrant air-time on your news networks compared to "let's go to war!"

Typical, us Aussies had 11/9 plastered on our tv sets for weeks, and !@#$!@#$

Sorry, teen angst.

~Duane

The form goes nowhere

[Mazurbul]

If you look at the code for the feedback form:

You'll notice that mailto has no value, I'd say it doesn't submit anywhere.

Re:oh dear god

[sg_oneill]

Well, none. But us Aussies are quite gratefull of the letters (we read in newspapers) from american firefighters offering (and being frusturated about not being able to repay the aussie firefighters by coming over and helping).

I recon if politicians had as much international solidarity as firefighters seem to, war'd be an arcane memory from the history books.

We sure do get alot of fires down here, heck australian fires are probably the hottest (Eucalyptus trees oft burn at many thousands degrees +(celcius) , but this canbera thing is rather ungood.

That said there was a part of me that was hoping to see parliment on fire ;) [note for international kids;- Aussies tend not to be precious about our politicians.. So the nothing-sacred humor should be taken in that context]

Re:oh dear god

[Narcissus]

It would be interesting to see parliament on fire, if only to see how many people really wouldn't piss on a politician, even if they were on fire...