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Wikipedia Reaches 100,000th Article

An anonymous reader writes "'Wikipedia, a community-built multilingual encyclopedia, is announcing that the English edition of the project has reached a milestone of 100,000 articles in development. In addition, the project itself has celebrated its two-year anniversary on January 15. But not just the English version has grown impressively: More than 37,000 articles are now being worked on in the non-English editions of Wikipedia.' Read the press release for more information or visit the website to enlighten yourself! It's great to see that this interactive project works; at least I don't have to boot into Windows to use Encarta anymore!"

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  1. A Great Collaborative Success Story by philovivero · · Score: 4, Informative
    For any doubters you know that say collaboration can't generate something awesome, Wikipedia is a gigantic, glowing, neon proof that it can, indeed.

    I've spent hours browsing topics on that site, and remain constantly amazed at the depth and breadth of knowledge on it.

    For amusement, look up "slashdot" on it. You will find more history and amusement than you remembered ever living through yourself.

    It even covers the troll era, with entries on Natalie Portman, grits, whatnot (I dare not type too many examples lest I be lameness filtered).

    1. Re:A Great Collaborative Success Story by philovivero · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry for a second post, but another awesome wiki with a more technical bent is at c2 dot com (I linked you to starting points). Another place where I've spent hours and hours and... aaah. Collaboration rocks.

    2. Re:A Great Collaborative Success Story by obsidianpreacher · · Score: 3, Informative
      For any doubters you know that say collaboration can't generate something awesome, Wikipedia is a gigantic, glowing, neon proof that it can, indeed
      For another great success story, but one that does not (IMHO, YMMV) seem to have the depth of knowledge that Wikipedia.org has is Everything2.

      While I'm not sure if either of these would qualify under an "open source movement," they seem to uphold many of those ideals (both are made by countless numbers of people, both revolve around things that cover broad topic material, both are freely editable and upgradable by anyone/everyone, both are free (as in beer)). Perhaps people can start to see just how powerful an Open Source movement can be, and begin to use other great tools developed by like-minded people (GPG, *nix, just to name a few!), if they're introduced to wonderful success stories like these.

      Spread the word about great sites and projects like this to your non-Open-Source-knowledgable people. Explain to them in plain terms that they can understand ("it's an online encyclopedia, like WorldBook or Encarta, but it's free"), and we can really see this movement take flight.
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    3. Re:A Great Collaborative Success Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      And an even greater success story - so much so that it was listed in the Sunday Times' Top 50 Websites of 2002 - is h2g2, the Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, as inspired by Douglas Adams' series of the same name.

      It has a nice collection of entries and the community feeling there is wonderful. You should check it out!

  2. Am I the only one who is just hearing about this? by saitoh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One would think that educational institutions would snatch something like this up in a heartbeat (same goes for the GPL version of education documents and reference material). Or is it that the maturity of the project isnt near what standard university requirements yet is the hold up?

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  3. Everything2 by mr100percent · · Score: 3, Informative
    I'm a bigger fan of Everything2.com. Currently at 479,928 writeups.

  4. answer to my own question... by Ack_OZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Does anyone know how they make sure all the submissions are accurate?

    from their FAQs ...

    Since anyone can edit any page, why would I give any credence to anything I read here?

    We operate on the idea that many eyeballs make all errors shallow. Wikipedia is, self-consciously, an experiment in public collaboration quite unlike any print or online encyclopedia, and therefore it will be difficult to project the results, in terms of their credibility, until the project is farther along. But even then, you'll have to judge the results based on the articles themselves, rather than the credentials of their writers (which is itself often an unreliable way to determine credibility).

    Some people think Wikipedia will give Britannica a run for its money. m:Making fun of Britannica.

    Some people have plans for peer review or article certification systems to work on top of Wikipedia. We'll be sure to point them out if and when any get up and running.


    1. Re:answer to my own question... by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Agreed.

      I am amazed at it and I believe this project may have potential. The problem with a moderation system is how do you prove the accuracy of all the subjects? With over 100,000 articles this could be a problem. What would be nice in addition to a moderation system would be a bio from the author or place where the article originated. If a dispute ever comes by someone with a stronger background could rewrite the article and put his/her bio on it. For example if I want to search for information on aspergers syndrome, I would want an article written by a researcher or phsycology professor and not some mom with a son with the condition.

      If I write a paper with a reference to the page I can also include the bio to prove to my professor that the source is reliable or at the individual is. I do agree if I was a professor I would worry about the quality of the data being published and would only take papers with bibs to the site with a grain of salt. But the bio and the ban on anyone editing anything unless he/she can prove that they are more knowledgeable in the subject then the previous author might make this project work.

      I do think there should be some paid volunteers and experts in particular subjects to check the authenticity of the work. Professors or researchers would be nice. A company sponser would also help since they can pay people to do this. I would think Yahoo for example would love to fund this so they can compete with AOL and Microsoft. They already have the most popular portal on the web.

      I hate the idea of anyone just editing the content. Bad bad bad! Beyond bad. This could kill it.

  5. Quality? by Jason1729 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is the quality as high as when they started? I went there when they were first mentioned on slashdot. The quality control process they described was very impressive but also daunting for anyone wanting to contribute. If they've reached the 100k article threshold with the same quality control it is world-class resource.

    Jason
    ProfQuotes

  6. Re:Am I the only one who is just hearing about thi by scrote-ma-hote · · Score: 4, Informative
    The big problem with this is it's best feature. Accuarcy. I was just browsing the site for something that I know in a reasoable amount of depth, and came across the entry for heart attack .

    It states things like "Infarct refers to the artery being plugged or clogged up", where it actually is the death of tissue cause by a lack of oxygen. Things like that restrict it's use severly. I think I'll stick with peer reviewed articles for the moment. Universities tend to have libraries full of them.

  7. Re:Encarta... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmmm. I spent quite a few years working on Encarta. Try looking up some typical 8th grade subjects like Walt Whitman.

    Here's Encarta's article:
    http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/R efArticle. aspx?refid=761570898

    vs. the Wikipedia article: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitman%2C_Walt

    You decide what you want your 8th grader to use as a reference.

  8. Re:Am I the only one who is just hearing about thi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Try The 'Earth Edition' of the Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, it has a vast array of well-written articles.

    The approach they take regarding peer review is interesting. There are two types of guide entry - edited and unedited. The edited guide is a collection of peer reviewed and edited articles, and likely to be more accurate and readable. The unedited guide entries are just anything, really. Could be total nonsense.

    Anyway you should check it out, it is a good site and has a much better community aspect than Wikipedia or Everything2. In a sense it is more like Fark or Slashdot, only more friendly.

  9. Pretty good breadth by bigberk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've used wikipedia on several occasions and have even contributed a few articles relating to my university, city, and province. What an excellent project!

    The breadth is pretty good. I've looked up things from world history to technical (modern day). I'd have to say the technical entries are stronger than the historical ones.

    I worry a bit about historical inaccuracies, political leanings, bias etc. but then again all that stuff exists in any other published work out there. Maybe this thing we create together, with peer review and editing is no worse (bias-wise) than a collection of documents from a publisher?

  10. Re:Am I the only one who is just hearing about thi by brion · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I think I'll stick with peer reviewed articles for the moment.

    You're a peer, you reviewed it, you found a problem. Why didn't you correct it?

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  11. Wiki for documentation by DrEspenA · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I recently did some consulting for a large, public organization, and suggested they do their in-house documentation Wiki style. This organization has a huge body of mostly textual documentation for technical equipment - and letting everybody update it seemed to me to be a great idea. You need a couple of organizational safeguards, of course, such as version tracking and rewards for people who do a lot of editing and write well. And you definitely need to assign some people of moderator quality to hammer out a culture of neutral point of view, attention to detail and frequent cross-checking of each others material.

    But the sheer simplicity of this solution, especially if you are starting from available documentation, should, as I have long advocated, make it useful for a lot more than a GPL Encyclopedia.

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  12. from the Wikipedia page on "Slashdotting" by imag0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wikipedia has been "slashdotted", July 26, 2001.

    Oops, looks like that one will have to get updated.

  13. Re:Free is good by SN74S181 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I got my set of Britannicas for fourty cents per volume at a thrift store.

    People are throwing out their classic paper encyclopedias.

    And lets face it: for many topics, i.e. mathematics, history, etc. an old edition of Britannica is damned fine.

    People go out and buy a CDROM version of Britannica and say 'why do we need these books.'

    Ten years from now I will still have my Britannica set. Their CD-ROM won't access in whatever is the latest-greatest-shiney OS.

    Sorry for being a curmudgeon, but it's things like traditional books in traditional libraries that are the basis of our cuture, that got us to the Moon.

  14. Duplication of effort by hcdejong · · Score: 3, Insightful

    25 posts, and already 4 alternative online encyclopedias have been mentioned. Isn't this a gigantic waste of effort?

    1. Re:Duplication of effort by brion · · Score: 5, Informative
      H2G2 and everything2 are copyright-encumbered, making it impossible to create derivative works (ie, republishing a culled 'good parts' version, hardcover or CD-ROM editions, or continuing the whole project if the current sponsor drops it) without explicitly licensing content from the BBC or the individual authors.

      Wikipedia is available under the GNU Free Documentation License, making it proof against the current network provider going out of business or losing interest, and opening its content up to reuse and repurposing. This in itself is, I think, worthwhile; what GNU and Linux provide to the world of operating systems, Wikipedia hopes to provide for the encyclopedia: something that's good enough and not subject to draconian use prevention.

      Wikipedia is also a multilingual project, with another 37,000 or so entries in the younger sister projects. I believe this is fairly unique among the field of competitors.

      (If you want to talk about duplication of effort, though, see the Enciclopedia Libre, a fork of the Spanish section of Wikipedia which split last year in protest over a since-repudiated proposal to include optional banner ads on the English section of Wikipedia to help offset the costs of operation.)

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  15. Re:Correctness by brion · · Score: 5, Insightful
    You should always consult multiple sources of information if you're concerned about bias and correctness. That goes for your Brittanica or Microsoft encyclopedia, too.

    The thing that makes Wikipedia a little different is that, once you've consulted other sources and come to your own balanced conclusions, you can edit the article to bring it more in line with accuracy and the project's Neutral Point of View goal/policy.

    A malicious or unthinking person could skew it away, but so can you put it back on track.

    In addition, as the 'pedia is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License, you're welcome to republish a culled version that includes only 'known good' revisions of articles. There has been some talk of a semi-official project along these lines run by Wikipedia's former editor, Larry Sanger, but it hasn't been put into place yet.

    Remember, Wikipedia is still very much under construction; it's only two years old and just getting the hang of walking around. There's no need to rush into driving yet. ;)

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  16. Amazingly fast updating by csnydermvpsoft · · Score: 4, Funny

    Their page on slashdotting already includes the following:

    Wikipedia has been "slashdotted" on July 26, 2001 and January 22, 2003.

    Talk about timely information!

  17. Re:comparison by brion · · Score: 4, Informative
    You'll find some vague comparisons to paper encyclopedias at Wikipedia:Size comparisons. It's hard to compare directly, though; Wikipedia tends to divide up large subjects into a number of separate entries, and includes quite a few entries on subjects that aren't likely to be in traditional encyclopedias (imported US Census data on 30,000 communities, including one-horse towns in the midwest somewhere of little historical importance; culturally significant films, games, internet culture phenomena, yadda yadda).

    If you're interested in publishing a dead-tree edition, we'd love to hear from you. ;)

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  18. Re:Am I the only one who is just hearing about thi by Blain · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't think you can speak that generally of Wikipedia -- the quality of articles ranges dramatically, but tends to improve with time (even then rather dramatically).

    I've written a few articles, contributed to others, and even replace one. One I'm very impressed with is the Vietnam War article. It has had contributions from many people with many different perspectives and experiences with that war -- veterans and peace activists and others. Emotions have run high in the /talk page more than once, but the product has been more balanced and inclusive than anything I've seen on the subject.

    But there are lots of annoying little problems -- duplicate articles that need to be merged, different models of organizing and presenting the same information that are going to be a bear to reconcile.

    Vandalism is a problem, but not as much as you might thing. I contributed to the "polyhedron" article by resurrecting it (somebody had replaced the text with "concave lenses are cool"). While I had it in front of me, I created a html table for presenting some of the data there.

    This is not a project for those with overly huge egos -- at least, not if they're going to try to do much outside the project -- because, over time, others will come by and change your articles, whether a little or a lot.

    For those looking for peer-review, keep in mind that there are connections between Wikipedia (which is rather wide open) and Nupedia (which is peer reviewed) in both directions.

    I would recommend that everybody look it over and contribute whatever they want to to make it better. But don't expect it to make any other encyclopedia obsolete -- at least, not quite yet.

  19. Re:Encarta... by maveric149 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So what? Encarta has been around a lot longer than Wikipedia and has spent many tens of millions of dollars on development. Linux hasn't so hot either at 2 years old - but look at it now. Many Wikipedia articles, in fact, are already about as good or better than their M$ counterparts. One
    example:

    Encarta:
    Lithium

    Wikipedia: Lithium

    It was already demonstrated with your above post that the Wikipedia article was fixed quickly. Just like free software: Many eyes and enough time makes all bugs shallow.

    And when was the last time you were able to fix an error or add to an article in any encyclopedia? Wikipedia gives the power to the users instead of keeping all the power in the hands of a select few. Knowledge of the by the people and for the people.

    --mav