Posted by
timothy
on from the no-two-cats-are-alike dept.
bbsguru writes "When Texas A&M researchers announced the first Cloned Kitty about a year ago, everyone expected to see a Multiplicity-style pair of cats by now. Not so! The clone is genetically identical, but in many other ways totally a different cat. This
CNN Story has details."
So.. it's silicon based then? Well, that means they can colonize radioactive worlds, but their population growth is half.
Re:Not a carbon copy...?
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NanoGator
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"So.. it's silicon based then? Well, that means they can colonize radioactive worlds, but their population growth is half. "
No no, it's the first silicon based pussy that anybody cared about.
Hmm. You know, it's just like poker. You can't beat a Master of Orion reference with a porn reference, even with the double meaning bonus. My only ace would be if I could find a surprisingly appropriate Doctor Who reference.
-- "Derp de derp."
Hear that sound?
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Anonymous Coward
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That's the sound of God chuckling as he walks back to the library.
This is all very well, but...
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Doctor+Hu
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...when are they going to clone the same cat multiple times, to check out the "9 lives" theory?
-- Yes, we're at a coffee break here. How did you guess?
Change of API
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Anonymous Coward
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Not a Carbon API for a Cat ? Upgrade to Cacoa for full MacOS X Jaguar support.
Re:Change of API
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MonTemplar
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Not a Carbon API for a Cat ? Upgrade to Cacoa for full MacOS X Jaguar support.
You misunderstand the nature of Cats. They have no need of an API, as they interface to the computer by directing their pet Human(s) instead.:)
-- -MT.
The ghastly truth!
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MonTemplar
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'What are we going to do tonight, Rainbow?' 'The same thing we do every night, CC - try to take over the World!'
You honestly thing it was the Human's idea to clone the Cat? You fools! It's part of their Masterplan to rise in vast numbers, and cast aside the enemy Dogs once and for all! Then we will be their obedient slaves - forever!:)
-- -MT.
Re:The ghastly truth!
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Xpilot
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They cloned a sheep first. Does this mean there'll be a ruling hierarchy? Sheep->Cats->People
-- "Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
Re:The ghastly truth!
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MonTemplar
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They cloned a sheep first. Does this mean there'll be a ruling hierarchy? Sheep->Cats->People
More likely, an alliance of some kind. The sheep have already attained control of most of New Zealand, after all.:)
> I am genetically identical today to how I was yesterday, but I expect I'll do loads of different stuff.
We change a great deal over time. For example I was blond and blue eyed until I was two and now I'm grey/green eyed and dark haired (what's left of it)
My mother asked a Nurse about this at the time (1960's) and was told that changes like this are quite normal over time.
This did confuse my mother somewhat since it happened to me over a period of 5 minutes when I was left outside a shop with our dog.
From the article: "There are millions of cats in shelters and with rescue groups that need homes, and the last thing we need is a new production strategy for cats."
Classic. Did this quote really come from Bob Barker?
Didn't Stephen King already make this point in 'Pet Semetary'?
Thou shalt not resurrect dead pets (especially cats, because they are in league with the devil)
It just can't be done.
Not even close...
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johnraphone
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those two cats look nothing alike, not even a little bit. At lease I look a lot like my clone, jeeze.
All clones turn out to be evil...
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velcrokitty
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As part of the Bush administration's programme to shut down all cloning research, they will begin to use footage from Pet Cemetary to demonstrate that ressurrected creatures are inherently evil. They're still having problems finding footage of evil sheep (whatever happened to Dolly), but have more than enough examples from science fiction of other creatures, including humans.
It's a shame that the US government is perverting the truth as we all know that clones aren't evil, just soulless empty husks.;)
Assuming that cloning humans yields similar results, I suppose we can eventually say goodbye to scientifically-accurate DNA matching in the crime lab.
"No! It wasn't me! I've been cloned!"
Needs a new name besides cc.
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Anonymous Coward
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A better name for "cc" or carbon copy is "copy cat".
Re:Needs a new name besides cc.
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RatBastard
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Well, considering that she doesn't look exactly like her donor, I think Mimeo would be a better name.
-- Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
Re:Impossible to...
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dubstop
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Like Ryker's transporter double.
I can't remember the episode, but I was very impressed that the double managed to survive alone for years without going insane. There can't be many things that are worse than being alone, without any form of human contact for many years, but here's a few that are close:
being stuck alone and being Ryker.
being stuck alone except for Ryker.
being Ryker.
After contemplating the magnitude of such a tragedy, I don't even have the energy to do the ???, Profit! thing.
Are you listening, George Lucas?
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Zog+The+Undeniable
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Surely some of those white-suited Stormtroopers should be pink. Or blue.
-- When I am king, you will be first against
the wall.
....just goes to show.....
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Craig3010
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Aggies can't be expected to clone pussy and get it right...
Re:so it is not a copy cat?
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Anne+Thwacks
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Nope... they have different birth dates, so their star signs are different. Anyone who reads womens' magazines knows star signs are far more important than genes (But Levi's Rule:-)
-- Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
Re:Impossible to...
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Daengbo
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Man, they should turn that into a movie.
Keanu as the lead...? No... we need someone brawnier.
-- - - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
Hey, it was in the parameters.
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TheConfusedOne
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Obviously they compiled the new cat as: cc -O
-- ---
I wish I could hear the soundtrack to my life. That way I'd know when to duck.
Ray Charles' Cloned Kitty
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vudufixit
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Is named BCC
Unless you're Japanese-
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Mu*puppy
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and are one of the people who go with the idea of how blood types affect personality, relationships, etc.
"C'mon baby, I'm O pos, we were meant for each other!"
-- There's no wrong way, to eat a Rhesus...
We can never study true nature...
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bhsx
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We can never study true nature, only nature as exposed to our method of parsing RealNetworks Helix code.
-- put the what in the where?
Re:Real octopussy
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Mr.+Slippery
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The cool thing is that if you look at any of the hair he sheds, it usually goes through about 4-5 different colors from root to tip
I used to have a dog like that; he'd shed hairs that were black on the end, brown in the middle, and white at the root. Which meant that whatever color you wore, the dog fur on your clothes would show up...
-- Tom Swiss | the infamous tms | my blog You cannot wash away blood with blood
Cleaning and the Star Trek Transporter
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bimmergeek
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The underlying problem with the promises of cloning and, incidentally, Star Trek's transporter is the assumption that everything significant about a human or even a cat is expressed in physical terms.
The possibility of transporting inanimate objects is very interesting and not dificult to understand: break down the atoms, beam them and reconstitute them. Straightforward. Cloning is also relatively straightforward: copy the genetic description of a creature and you can make endless replicas of that creature.
The problem is this: Humans are not merely physical objects. We have personalities, emotions, longings, etc. How does cloning duplicate personality, intelligence or, in the case of the cats, perfect physical appearance? It doesn't.
The assumption behind the promise of cloning your favorite pet is that the things that make your particular black lab more endearing to you than your neighbor's are contained in genes. Intuitively, with some reflection, we see that this cannot be true. It is not the physical appearance of our black lab that we love, it is the specific manner in which the dog loves us that makes that dog better than some other dog.
The assumption behind transporting humans across space is that humans are merely warm physical objects. Suppose Captain Picard is quite pissed at Data as he is beamed to the planet surface. How does the transporter deconstruct his pissed off emotion? Or suppose Catain Kirk is falling in love with some forbidden fruit: a slinky little Klingon hottie. How does the transporter beam to the surface his romantic longings and anxiety about whether he will choose love over career? If the *material person* is being beamed, what happens to the emotional and spiritual person?
Cloning and transporting are the same problem because they are based on the same assumptions about what it means to be human. Namely, that there is no difference between us and a phaser. There will be many pet owners and surviving lovers/family members who are disappointed when their hopes for reunion are dashed because cloning fails to replicate the intangible mystery of what differentiates people and animals from other lumpy objects.
-- -Everyone laughs at lemmings but no one ever wants to admit to ever being one.
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It's both the same cat AND a totally different cat. You changed the results by observing them.
...damn copy cats.
-- Contradictions only exist in thought - not in reality.
...for "Carbon Copy"... no wonder the thing is thinner thatn it's "sibling"... it's got identity issues and they've triggered an eating disorder.
So.. it's silicon based then? Well, that means they can colonize radioactive worlds, but their population growth is half.
That's the sound of God chuckling as he walks back to the library.
Speaking of making perfect copies of animals Mexican Scientists Perfect Copying :).
--
Yes, we're at a coffee break here. How did you guess?
Not a Carbon API for a Cat ? Upgrade to Cacoa for full MacOS X Jaguar support.
'What are we going to do tonight, Rainbow?'
:)
'The same thing we do every night, CC - try to take over the World!'
You honestly thing it was the Human's idea to clone the Cat? You fools! It's part of their Masterplan to rise in vast numbers, and cast aside the enemy Dogs once and for all! Then we will be their obedient slaves - forever!
-MT.
> I am genetically identical today to how I was yesterday, but I expect I'll do loads of different stuff.
We change a great deal over time. For example I was blond and blue eyed until I was two and now I'm grey/green eyed and dark haired (what's left of it)
My mother asked a Nurse about this at the time (1960's) and was told that changes like this are quite normal over time.
This did confuse my mother somewhat since it happened to me over a period of 5 minutes when I was left outside a shop with our dog.
From the article:
"There are millions of cats in shelters and with rescue groups that need homes, and the last thing we need is a new production strategy for cats."
Classic. Did this quote really come from Bob Barker?
Now you can have your cat and eat it too! Ha!
-Alf
Didn't Stephen King already make this point in 'Pet Semetary'? Thou shalt not resurrect dead pets (especially cats, because they are in league with the devil) It just can't be done.
those two cats look nothing alike, not even a little bit. At lease I look a lot like my clone, jeeze.
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As part of the Bush administration's programme to shut down all cloning research, they will begin to use footage from Pet Cemetary to demonstrate that ressurrected creatures are inherently evil. They're still having problems finding footage of evil sheep (whatever happened to Dolly), but have more than enough examples from science fiction of other creatures, including humans.
It's a shame that the US government is perverting the truth as we all know that clones aren't evil, just soulless empty husks. ;)
Smile, it's Wednesday!
I stick to walls...
Assuming that cloning humans yields similar results, I suppose we can eventually say goodbye to scientifically-accurate DNA matching in the crime lab.
"No! It wasn't me! I've been cloned!"
A better name for "cc" or carbon copy is "copy cat".
I can't remember the episode, but I was very impressed that the double managed to survive alone for years without going insane. There can't be many things that are worse than being alone, without any form of human contact for many years, but here's a few that are close:
After contemplating the magnitude of such a tragedy, I don't even have the energy to do the ???, Profit! thing.
Surely some of those white-suited Stormtroopers should be pink. Or blue.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
Aggies can't be expected to clone pussy and get it right...
Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
Man, they should turn that into a movie.
Keanu as the lead...? No... we need someone brawnier.
Put identity in the browser.
and without 'genetic defects', but if she was born blind do ya think they would've named her Bcc??
Mr. Bigglesworth! I will call him mini-meow.
Yessssss! Nurture wins!
In your FACE, Nature!! Nyaaaaa!
Nurture - 1, Nature - 0!
SWISH!!
<drunken singing>
Weeee are the schampions... WEEEE are the schampions... nooo time for looosers...
</drunken singing>
Experts agree: everything is fine.
False Dichot. Between environment and genes, you've left out free will!
Uh.... that's part of environment.
# dd if=/dev/john of=/dev/brain
Diahrhea.
It runs in the jeans.
(Yeah, I probably should have resisted that one.)
--- I wish I could hear the soundtrack to my life. That way I'd know when to duck.
1. being stuck alone and being Ryker.
2. being stuck alone except for Ryker.
3. being Ryker.
4. being stuck alone with a Ferengi.
5. ???
6. PROFIT!
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
Obviously they compiled the new cat as:
cc -O
--- I wish I could hear the soundtrack to my life. That way I'd know when to duck.
Is named BCC
"C'mon baby, I'm O pos, we were meant for each other!"
There's no wrong way, to eat a Rhesus...
We can never study true nature, only nature as exposed to our method of parsing RealNetworks Helix code.
put the what in the where?
I used to have a dog like that; he'd shed hairs that were black on the end, brown in the middle, and white at the root. Which meant that whatever color you wore, the dog fur on your clothes would show up...
Tom Swiss | the infamous tms | my blog
You cannot wash away blood with blood
The underlying problem with the promises of cloning and, incidentally, Star Trek's transporter is the assumption that everything significant about a human or even a cat is expressed in physical terms.
The possibility of transporting inanimate objects is very interesting and not dificult to understand: break down the atoms, beam them and reconstitute them. Straightforward. Cloning is also relatively straightforward: copy the genetic description of a creature and you can make endless replicas of that creature.
The problem is this: Humans are not merely physical objects. We have personalities, emotions, longings, etc. How does cloning duplicate personality, intelligence or, in the case of the cats, perfect physical appearance? It doesn't.
The assumption behind the promise of cloning your favorite pet is that the things that make your particular black lab more endearing to you than your neighbor's are contained in genes. Intuitively, with some reflection, we see that this cannot be true. It is not the physical appearance of our black lab that we love, it is the specific manner in which the dog loves us that makes that dog better than some other dog.
The assumption behind transporting humans across space is that humans are merely warm physical objects. Suppose Captain Picard is quite pissed at Data as he is beamed to the planet surface. How does the transporter deconstruct his pissed off emotion? Or suppose Catain Kirk is falling in love with some forbidden fruit: a slinky little Klingon hottie. How does the transporter beam to the surface his romantic longings and anxiety about whether he will choose love over career? If the *material person* is being beamed, what happens to the emotional and spiritual person?
Cloning and transporting are the same problem because they are based on the same assumptions about what it means to be human. Namely, that there is no difference between us and a phaser. There will be many pet owners and surviving lovers/family members who are disappointed when their hopes for reunion are dashed because cloning fails to replicate the intangible mystery of what differentiates people and animals from other lumpy objects.
-Everyone laughs at lemmings but no one ever wants to admit to ever being one.