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House and Senate Reject E-mail Surveillance

vena writes "The Star Tribune reports the House and Senate today agreed not to allow email surveillance of American citizens proposed by the Total Information Awareness program. Additionally, negotiators agreed to halt all future funding on the program without extensive consultation with Congress."

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  1. Excellent news! by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Does this mean I can stop using PGP?

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    1. Re:Excellent news! by twoallbeefpatties · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think it means you don't have to type in l33t with hotmail. "Dude, send me that last letter back in English. They're not watching us anymore."

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    2. Re:Excellent news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      how do they know that you are an American citizen without reading your email and checking you up?

      Easy. Just put "I'm a US citizen" in the subject line of all of your emails. That way they won't read the body of your email.

  2. About time... by pla · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yay! The good guys finally win one.

    Suck on that, herr Ashcroft...

    1. Re:About time... by I+am+Emmitt+Smith · · Score: 2, Funny

      amen

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    2. Re:About time... by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1, Funny

      How do you know they did nothing? They seem to have a lot more intelligence information now than they did before. We actually are expecting and prepared for an attack attempt this week instead of being caught totally offguard like in 2001. They say this is from surveliance... perhaps it is helping. You make broad, and very confident-sounding statemants, but you do not KNOW, you are making it up.

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  3. On second thought... by mekkab · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess even they couldn't stomach the idea of reading other people's spam.

    Too bad, they could have compared prices on herbal viagra.

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  4. I guess their... by Xandar01 · · Score: 2, Funny

    personal emails may be a little to spicy.

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  5. Sense at last by Herby+Werby · · Score: 5, Funny

    all your mail are not belong to us

  6. No need to spy on my email.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'll quite happily turn myself into the nearest police station and admit that I earn money working from home whilst looking at hot girl-on-girl, aided by my generic Viagra and playing with 12 inch weener.

  7. Nice by creative_name · · Score: 3, Funny

    Finally! The black car in front of my house is going to leave!

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  8. Thank god... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was worried about people seeing my love letters to CowboyNeal. That he NEVER RESPONDS TO

  9. the best part about this story by vena · · Score: 2, Funny

    is that i can't spell AT ALL and the editors fixed all my mistakes :)

  10. Re:Skewed perspective? by joebagodonuts · · Score: 5, Funny

    I liked this quote better:

    "Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., senior Democrat on the subcommittee, said of the program, "Jerry's against it, and I'm against it, so we kept the Senate amendment." Of the Pentagon, he said, "They've got some crazy people over there."

    No shit.

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  11. What I really want to know is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    [text removed by line eater v9.3 - thanks for shopping with the NSA!]

  12. John Poindexter by Elequin · · Score: 1, Funny

    From the article:
    "One important factor in the breadth of the opposition is the fact that the project is headed by retired Adm. John Poindexter. Several members of Congress have said he is an unwelcome symbol because he was convicted of lying to Congress when he was President Ronald Reagan's national security adviser. That his conviction was reversed on the grounds that he had been given immunity for the testimony in which he lied did not mitigate congressional opinion, they said."

    Oh, suuuure you promise it wouldn't be used to violate citizens' privacy. We believe you.

  13. Re:Meanwhile... by jazman_777 · · Score: 2, Funny
    But hey, anything goes as long as you can make the public vagely believe, or even not dispute too much, that it'll help them get Osama Bin Laden.

    Who? Didn't Hussein blow up the Maine, shoot Archduke Ferdinand, stage the Munich Beer Hall Putsch, invade Poland, sneak attack Pearl Harbor, drop nukes on Japan, invade South Korea, cause the Gulf of Tonkin incident, run drugs into the US via Columbia, blow up the Marine barracks in Beirut, and shoot down TWA 800?

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  14. Does this mean I can stop running spook? by Rocko+Bonaparte · · Score: 5, Funny

    All of my friends have been asking me why I keep randomly throwing spy USCOI Mena bluebird virus Sears Tower electronic surveillance Vince Foster White Water ASPIC industrial espionage Semtex CBNRC Mossad Juiliett Class Submarine all these strange words into my emails. It's from spook, a military asset class struggle AUTODIN Mafia MDA genetic cryptographic South Africa Crypto AG keyhole Rubin Medco eavesdropping Chobetsu little emacs script that adds high-risk words to my emails. The theory is, the extra traffic of false-positives will overwhelm any Steve Case North Korea Cohiba computer terrorism PGP SCUD missile AIMSX ARPA CISU arrangements class struggle chameleon man ISEC security espionage effort by the government to gamma Uzi FIPS140 bemd assassinate CDMA ANDVT Elvis USCODE 22nd SAS threat Bletchley Park colonel industrial espionage csystems monitor email traffic.

    Does that mean I can stop doing this now? My coworkers think I chameleon man SWAT PGP JFK ANZUS top secret Cohiba USCODE Delta Force ASDIC virus assassination Noriega World Trade Center cryptanalysis have Tourettes.

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  15. Re:TIA clothing available... by Senjutsu · · Score: 3, Funny

    Including Total Information Awareness thongs...

    When they say they want to know everything, they mean Everything.

  16. Darn it all! by Iakona · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was hoping to send some nice emails in arabic like:

    Jihad to Microsoft! Linux has risen in an explosive blaze of fury! I like VX works. Food tastes good with ricin it. Death to BUSH using new hedge trimmers. 90% off swedish made penis enlargers! (Which is what they're really looking for)

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  17. So Ashcroft wants to read my email? by jmorse · · Score: 2, Funny

    If he really wants to read my email, I'm going to sign up for all the pr0n spam I can get. Let that puritanical a$$hole freak show and his Christian Soldiers(TM) sort through all the live cams, teen fetishes, fisting sessions, and goatse.cx pics they can get :)

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  18. In a word . . . by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 5, Funny
    -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
    qANQR1DBwU4DFRm5nWRHfUAQCACvS5Q/HAkmsluEsbKSFhwvoK T8/qTNhyumTtQ3 qiROtkgFWoHI7hEzNBx8EBi+ckDUh6LHwhbMEvaRHrgCpCwOQU NJtGODdRRkC9Sp vGVToEJBsxTNEWFB6uKqxh8wZmzwCNY9f8ZZ8MF0LNbkRHsv0i T+4hVf9S3e5N4r GQZBf0vaBgcI/JeC2pnQxiPgxXm/GMhuDlAwPzTZzHxRSvXaJL XSQ2hd6d1FZ204 6za1gkqAE7kK/ewJNKAdJ+bDaapgXEvI72sLNVZp4Vr+xbdM9d mstUCzf3lWxLrc 2yajd3dAR4IvtgPlVocWQ0UHkhKQ+0u+aFaVDS8xb0Rm+DpcB/ 9atVjsBhkjGxrs GacSLX2KKlRhWDvHwwjc4iUPvKCpQ6Ksl2BJZL/pwzoPE1RpB7 70pj37VGHTCAZs Xocqbsmu+0oauT/ZMvzIvZR3QbopiEVLT3eBfp7mZBTfVYIkZh acPD9UQjoIzFNa F/n7QdZrx1jdtITBB7ywr3gkPTdbOOz2leXyETJ6b65Z8gb83f DDec/CMM8Va3av uIczXvBXcYEVE01IZL+m17E0aXSbqE9iBPoXpGuMSoeLZjyJMJ BKDfLMu/nCj2Pc NQjT7j4ElprPpmAeenEVguXvWMW2lZ9jDmy3U0a9eAgnh4VSpt X+ReIf5emolQBR 4zo3VVNRySDViNTepXLCysx3UFp7NrId2BlujK+Gwn6wxLJCVt 6HBA== =yw4b
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    No.

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    1. Re:In a word . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It took that much junk just to say "No." in PGP? What a crappy language. Worse than perl.

    2. Re:In a word . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but it's slightly more readable than Perl at least.

  19. I don't get what the big deal is... by Not+Quite+Jake · · Score: 3, Funny

    I really don't get it when it comes to the big fuss over this Total Information Awareness. The structure to do it is already in place and it comes in two forms, AOL and AIM. All the government has to do is set up an account, add everyone to their buddy list and hire some goons to check away messages, you always know where people are by their away messages. How easy is this, and it's free too!

  20. In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    President Bush has ordered that no one be allowed to communicate by e-mail, since that is a tool that can be used by terrorists.

    Furthermore, the president has drafted a bill to ammend the constitutional right to free speech, as that is another major tool frequently employed by terrorists who seek to develope weapons of mass destruction. Henceforth, only communications approved by the Department of Homeland Security will be allowed by law.

  21. yeah, but... by interactive_civilian · · Score: 4, Funny
    Smallpond said:
    Maybe they can find a good military officer, a colonel maybe, to make those reports to Congress.
    Sounds like a great idea, but what if he panics???

    ;)

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