Building a Better Back Button
Justin Macfarlane writes "From Stuff: 'Net surfers use the back button more than any other key. A computer scientist has made the command more useful, writes Will Harvie.'"
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I stopped using my back button when I used to use Opera. Tabbed browsing eliminated my need for a back button (in most cases), and kept my browsing organized. Now, Mozilla and Phoenix support this. It's a great feature. Try using it and you will see that your back button gets only a small fraction of the use that it once had.
So they've programed a great back button. Cool. Now, I love the back button and all - I use it a lot - but I generally like to have a browser to go along with it. This makes no mention of the idea actually being implemented in any current or future browser.
~metal_llama out.
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I personally love the Snap-back feature built into Safari, where, for example, if you do a google search, go to a result page, go several links deep and realize this isn't what you want, you just click the snap-back button and you're right back to your search results. This goes a long way to reducing my dependence on tabbed browsing, and is probably more intuitive for novice websurfers.
It works in a generic way for all websites, too, not just google, which is great.
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If I hit back enough do I end up using NCSA Mosaic? Or do I just end up in gopher?
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Make it skip those advertising links and go back to the first non-ad location.
Those back-button-disabled sites annoy me. It is MY back button, not doubleclick's.
If within half an hour of posting a story thirty readers have identified the story as a dupe, there must be some way the /. eds could just run submissions through a filter to detect dupes or not. 'Cause they sure ain't catching them on their own.
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I use Phoenix and the mouse gestures plugin; this means I end up using the "open in new tab", "change tab" and "close tab" mouse gestures almost exclusively.
However, there is also a "go back" gesture, quite possibly the simplest of them all, and do you want to know what site caused me to use this quick escape?
Goatse!
Now, that's one back button I don't want to EVER have to press!
-Mark
it took them eight years to figure out that people use the Back button even though they don't understand it???
puh-leez. i want a job on this team.
Shaving even 0.002 seconds off the back command is worthwhile because millions of button clicks worldwide will be a little more efficient, he says. "If we can save a tiny bit of frustration and confusion, that's the way to improve computer interfacing."
Well I'm glad they clarifyed that little detail, now I can sleep better at night knowing I've shaved a few clock cycles off my daily routine. I dread to think what the 'analysts' would say if they heard that, we'll be saving X amount of money per fiscal year by using this new back button... kinda straight out of Dilbert!
On a side note, (when I use Mozilla or Opera) the tabs come in handy... or if using IE, I tend to open most pages in new browser windows, so I have pages available at hand (still on dialup, so it does make a difference)... hehe maybe they're right about the 0.002 seconds!
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Now with the stand back button, or even their modified results, I tend to see:
[b,a], where what I would like to see is something like:
[b, [c,d] , a]
I like mouse gestures, and I find the only one I really ever use is back, and tabbed browsing does get rid of a lot of the single back, but I'm suprised that this 'tree' view hasn't been investigated/implemented.
Maybe that's how the new back button works. It takes you back to stuff you've seen a year ago.
...I never use the back button, I only move forward. It's negativity like the back button that is ruining this country.
oh, it's been improved to be that way? in the early days of the internet, all the questions i ever fielded from the computarded were, "how do i erase where i've been so nobody else knows?".
kids don't want their parents to know. guys definately don't want their women to know. and nobody at all wants their government to know where they've been surfing. does the super back button have an erase the back button feature built in???? that's all anyone really wants anyway.
figures, academia always seems to nail their heads right on all the internet hits.
best back buttons around today are on Mac revs of Mozilla, IE and most mac browsers. CMD + -- = go back . i jones for it on pc's, it rules. course it did wear out the left arrow key on my keyboard after a few years of going back :)
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I think I could love that. Oh, and the ability to disable page reloads on back.
One of the worse offenders IMHO is Google when opening cached copies or a failed search, but automatic search on something it thinks is like the search item. I'd rather a failure and leave it at that, perhaps with the hint of other possibilies, but the auto thing is a bastard.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
The "tree" idea won't really catch on simply because most of the alternate branches tend to be mistakes, deadends, etc..
I think most of the time when you hit a link, back out, and go somewhere else, it's because you didn't find what you wanted. Obviously this isn't always true, but even if it's only true 90% of the time, all of those stumpy little branches on the tree are just extra, unwanted info that will confuse the user.
I'm curious to see if research would agree with me.... maybe the tree view would be useful if it only saved alternate branches more than 1 link long.
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The funny thing is, this report doesn't address at all what I see as the biggest problem with the "back" button. Since I develop online web scenarios that interact with backend systems in a stateful manner, I'm constantly having to deal with the fact that the back button sends little or no information to the online system when used. This is, of course, because browsers are stateless. It would be nice if the back button could be programmed to work like an html form submit that sent the contents of the current form along with some control code. This would make synchronizing with the online system much much easier, rather than having to "guess" which state the program should be in from the next form submit following use of the back button.
One option we've used is to deploy browsers with the back button disabled, but this really annoys users who would like to just browse the internet. We discontinued this practice almost before we started it.
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Nothing makes me hit the back button faster than the realization that I've just clicked on a link to a PDF. Come on! Can't you at least warn us?
www.timcoleman.com is a total waste of your time. Never go there.
My apologies as I forget who to credit for this, but is was posted in a recent Slashdot story about how to block ads and such using your UserContent.css or whatever equivalent. I hope this helps to make your browsing a less visually-dangerous experience as it has for mine.
Cheers. :)
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
I have done extensive research and have figured out a way to build a better forward button as well.
Currently the forward button only works after you've hit the back button. This is highly inconvenient, because the forward button is useless when you fire up your browser.
However, my new improved forward button will allow web users to actually click ahead into the future so that they don't have to type the URL of the site they are about to visit. It does this with my patented Mind Matrix Technology (TM) that uses a complex mathematical formula to determine what the user wants to see next.
"You spoony bard!" -Tellah