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Mac OS X 10.2.4 Is Out

J. Ventura writes "Mac OS X Update 10.2.4 has been relased. The 10.2.4 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications, services and technologies: Address Book, Classic compatibility, Finder, FireWire, Graphics, OpenGL, and Sherlock. It includes AFP and Windows file service improvements, as well as audio, disc recording, graphics, and printing improvements." Get it via Software Update.

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  1. Watch your network settings... by cespi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Installing 10.2.4 screwed my network settings. I have my Network preferences panel set to "Manually" configure, but after the upgrade, OS X lost it's memory. The panel still showed the settings correctly, and I repeatedly hit "Apply," but it would not set the parameters.

    I had to resort to ifconfig, route, and hand editing /etc/resolv.conf

    Thanks Apple!

  2. Don't forget... by mgaiman · · Score: 5, Informative

    After the update, it is probably a good idea to fix your permissions (which can be done via the Disk Utility).

    1. Re:Don't forget... by wtmcgee · · Score: 5, Informative

      definately. this usually makes a huge difference, because things just seem to get screwed up from time to time after big software updates. i don't know enough about all that to know *why* they get screwy, but i do know the first thing i do after a OS update is permission repair.

      obviously, if you want to be super 31337, you can just type sudo diskutil repairpermissions / in console.

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    2. Re:Don't forget... by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 4, Funny

      obviously, if you want to be super 31337, you can just type sudo diskutil repairpermissions / in console.

      Actually, the super 31337 among us just copied-and-pasted what you'd already typed. ;-)

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    3. Re:Don't forget... by qengho · · Score: 2, Informative

      sudo diskutil repairpermissions / in console

      I tried that on two of my machines and it quit partway through with errors on both. Running the GUI Disk Utility worked fine, though. Odd.

  3. Yay! by asparagus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They fixed the bloody bug where everything on the desktop got moved when you dropped something on the edges.

    OSeXy!

    -Brett

    1. Re:Yay! by asparagus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Forgot to inclue the KB article.

      10.2.4 fixes:
      http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n107362

  4. Much faster by Rouxfus · · Score: 5, Informative
    I was about to switch back to Eudora, which I'd been using since 1994. I gave Mail a try for the last couple of months because of the Junk mail filter, but I was starting to wonder if Eudora and Spam Sieve wouldn't give me my speedy email back. Mail was slow changing from email to email.

    10.2.4 seems to have fixed the problem - much snappier performance in Mail, and NetNewsWire (going from headline to headline was sometimes sluggish.)

    No problems on the update that I've noticed so far...

  5. solid release... by wtmcgee · · Score: 2, Informative

    nothing new or revolutionary.... but things just seem to be a bit snappier (i know most people will say, "thats just the prebinding after the install"...), mainly things like redrawing windows when i resize them, or scrolling speeds and what not. also, i'm glad they made address book act like most other os x apps, after you close the app, it still runs in the dock until you close it.

    all in all, nothing special, just seems like they squashed a lot of bugs and added some behind the scenes goodness.

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    1. Re:solid release... by wtmcgee · · Score: 2

      sounds like your the exception, not the rule.

      i didn't say that all of a sudden when i use photoshop, i can apply filters at some insanely faster rate, or that iMovie rendering is 200000x faster.

      scrolling seems smoother in apps which have a scrollbar, and resizing windows is a bit snappier.

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  6. not without issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    hmmm... trashed my php install on my desktop machine (overwrites httpd.conf) and now my TiBook can't boot because of kernel panics.

    I thought I'd be more pissed, but frankly I've had so few update problems with OS X I figure I must be ahead.

    I

    1. Re:not without issues by thevil · · Score: 2, Informative

      It saves a back up of httpd.conf.

  7. Changes in httpd.conf by MonsterChicharo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The update replaced Apache's httpd.conf and saved the old version as httpd.conf.applesaved. The problem is that the new httpd.conf has the PHP module commented out, and apparently the PHP module is not included. Anyone else having this problem or my installation that is broken?

    1. Re:Changes in httpd.conf by tweder · · Score: 2, Informative

      Updating to 10.2.4 replaced my Apache config file too, but simply uncommenting the PHP module in the new httpd.conf fixed it for me.

      I'm still running Apple's default PHP build rather than a new compilation.

    2. Re:Changes in httpd.conf by wtmcgee · · Score: 2, Informative

      Reverting the 'new' apache config back to my old apache config with:

      cp httpd.conf.applesaved httpd.conf

      then restarting apache did the trick.

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  8. short list of bugs? by cpeterso · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've always been impressed that Apple's patches for Mac OS X fix such a short list of not-too-serious bugs. Microsoft's Windows service packs, on the other hand, often fix hundreds of serious bugs. And Windows service packs seem to get increasingly unstable in later service packs.

    1. Re:short list of bugs? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have IE 5.5 on my system. Every time I go into "Windows Update", the system says that "CRITICAL UPDATE: You must upgrade to IE6", but then they don't say WHY this is a critical update, other then it supports the MS marketing machine.

      I'll upgrade to 6 when it's a little more mature, thank you very much.

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    2. Re:short list of bugs? by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Note that Apple don't appear (to me at least) to tell the truth about what bugs they've fixed. I think 10.1.2 was really buggy for me. It used to kernel panic, fail to wake up from sleep and generally be unreliable. With 10.1.3 these problems went away. No mention of any of this in the detailed description of what they'd fixed.

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    3. Re:short list of bugs? by bo-eric · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you want the really detailed changelog for why kernel panics go away, check the Darwin cvslog.

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  9. Rendezvous doesn't seem to be the Eric version by AnamanFan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Rendezvous-enabled computers that have Personal Web Sharing turned on appear in the Safari Rendezvous bookmark collection."

    Taking a quick look at the Rendezvous bookmarks on Safari, I see a bookmark for each user made on my mac ("User's website") and then the one made by Eric Christopher is still present. Admitabally, it doesn't seem that they used Eric's mod, but I can't be 100% about it.

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  10. Re:iChat Changes by PeekabooCaribou · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apple uses a .plist file to add certain things to the Dock. It does stuff like "Change the pathname of this Dock app", or "Insert this app after the Finder". It was probably applied after your update.

    I believe it's located in the Dock.app bundle, if anybody wants to poke around.

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  11. Re:But Where are my Safari Tabs??? by justzisguy · · Score: 2, Informative

    They did fix that nasty hang when browsing an SMB volume that is suddenly disconnected.

  12. Re:But Where are my Safari Tabs??? by MonsterChicharo · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, it has not been fixed. I tested it, and my computer became unresponsive for a while. Trying to umount the device resulted in an error message, yet mount shows it.

    It is a nasty bug, alright.

  13. No, this will most certainly not happen... by daveschroeder · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...to everyone, and the fact that it happened to this one poster is a fluke. As far as that goes, it shouldn't happen to *anyone*, but as with every OS update, there will be a very, very small subset of people who say "it fouled up my x" or "totally screwed my settings for y", but the vast, vast majority of people have no problems at all.

  14. Bluetooth Serial Utility by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... is included. Handy.

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  15. It now includes Apple's mod_rendezvous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check out my HOWTO for enabling PHP (written for newbies) and some (scarce) info on Apple's mod_rendezvous.

  16. Re:Mail bug by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 4, Funny
    Anybody know if they fixed the bug in mail where if you mistakenly create two accounts with the same email address and delete one it deletes all the associated emails?

    Actually, I fixed that bug myself.

    Here's the patch: don't do that again.

    Sorry for the flip comment, but c'mon... did you really want to test that particular 'feature' again just to see if they fixed it?

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  17. Re:Mac OS 10.2.4 by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 4, Informative
    Finder is now Cocoa

    Oh, boy. Here we go again. Raise your hand if you're unclear on what Cocoa and Carbon mean. Okay, now pay attention:

    [localhost:~] twirlip% otool -L Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder
    Carbon.framework
    QuickTime.framework
    PowerPlant.framework
    DesktopServicesPriv.framework
    URLMount.framework
    DiskArbitration.framework
    DiskImages.framework
    CoreFoundation.framework
    IOKit.framework
    SystemConfiguration.framework
    Security.framework
    libSystem.B.dylib

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  18. Re:Java still old by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 5, Informative

    Apple's Java 1.4.1 is in developer preview now. If you want it, you can get yourself an ADC account-- they're free; sign up here-- and go to the "Download Software" area of the ADC site.

    Java 1.4.1 is at developer preview 8 right now, so it's not Sir Crashalot or anything, but it's not finished, either. No lifeguard on duty; swim at your own risk.

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  19. What about laptop power management??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm getting kind of tired of my iBook bitching at me that it's running on reserve power, when the battery is at more than 75% full. Even worse when it just goes to sleep with NO WARNING shortly after the spurious battery warning, and won't wake up until I plug it in.

    I know I'm not the only one who has seen these kinds of problems with OS X-- the iBook power management was rock-solid in OS 9.x.

    1. Re:What about laptop power management??? by drive · · Score: 2, Informative

      i had this problem too. many people have. it seems to be a hardware problem with the battery. i took my ibook to the apple store in soho. i told them what was up, they gave me a new battery (under warranty) in 10 minutes and i went home. since then i haven't had any more problems. give apple a call about your problem. you might have to bitch a little but hopefully they'll send you a new battery.

    2. Re:What about laptop power management??? by brass1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Try resetting the PMU. You'll have to reset the time, but it seems to correct a large number of problems with power management.

  20. Re:Crap... it killed my PHP setup... again. by coolmacdude · · Score: 2, Informative

    It didn't overwrite it. The old file was saved as httpd.conf.applesaved

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  21. Broken Softwore Update? by PetWolverine · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe something is wrong with my Software Update, but it's not showing that there's an update available for OS X. It didn't show yesterday's Safari update, either--I had to download that from Apple's Web site manually.

    Or maybe it's the fact that I'm running OS X Server--does anyone know if the update to Server has come out yet?

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    1. Re:Broken Softwore Update? by Xcapee · · Score: 2, Informative

      OS X Server is a totally different product.

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  22. Re:Mail bug by itwerx · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's actually pretty easy to do if you have your own domain and have a bunch of dummy accounts setup so you can "send as" each one. Whenever you make a new one you have to put in the correct mail server info (so it will send) and it will default to the settings it already knows about from the original account.
    It's easy enough to change to something bogus for the username (since one never needs to collect through more than one account, only send) but if you forget you're hosed! The only way to undo your mistake is to backup the mail folder, do your delete and then restore it...
    A minor annoyance once one is aware of it but a bit of a pisser the first time.

  23. Another Ho-Hum Update by spaceport · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, I just finished applying a bunch of system patches to my 2K box at work (no choice), and have witnessed, much to my dismay, the return of what I call the 'Instant Death' bug. I click, or open one of two applications (my two 'big' apps), then watch the memory count up on a black screen, with an energy star logo for entertainment. This happens 5-10 times a day, for the last 2 days since I updated.

    I just installed OS X 10.2.4 at home, and surely will do so tomorrow on the (good) machines at work! As per the usual with these things, I don't really notice what it did. And that is good.

    I mean really, since when should a system update f&#k so badly with the (presumably) graphics subsystems that it breaks, and breaks really, really badly, apps that have gotten along just fine for about a year?

    Now I am likely going to have to install 2K again from the CD, losing huge chunks of my preferences, hacks and such that had been running (stably ??) for the year, like the ones that disabled that horrid windows key that always to masquerade as an apple key (I do have a nice keyboard ; ) and made a control key like it should be (email me for this one, it is incredibly nice). Well, if I don't lose 'em, at least I am going to have to find every, single, bloody one of them that made that horrid os tolerable (though still not by choice).

    Just to bring things full circle, I did once have to re-install jaguar after having screwed pretty badly some of the boot files (completely my bad). I remember the horror when I realised that the only hope was a reinstall. I also remember the sheer joy as I discovered that every bloody single preference, login item, font, and what-not was exactly as I left it, and functioning perfectly.

    I always get excited at mac update time : )

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  24. Re:Mail bug by Onan · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's a much easier way to send mail from multiple addresses: in the account config, specify as many addresses as you like, comma-separated. They'll all appear in the account pop-up menu at compose time, using the first by default.

    It's quite useful, though I can't imagine how anyone's expected to figure out that it's there. And still not quite as flexible as being able to just edit the From: field directly, of course.

  25. 10.2.4 startup panic FIX by punka · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those of you that installed Apple's preview IP over Firewire drivers back in the day might have the same problem I did:

    Kernel panic upon reboot.

    Apparently they broke the kext's support in 'updating firewire'

    Just reboot holding down apple-s , that'll drop you into single-user mode, run the obligatory /sbin/fsck -y then /sbin/mount -uw /
    then get rid of the FirewireIP kext by
    mv /System/Library/Extensions/IOFireWireIP.kext/ /
    Trash it or do what you will with it after you successfully reboot.
    Hope this helps!

    1. Re:10.2.4 startup panic FIX by coolmacdude · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I installed that but had no problem with the update.

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  26. Re:Much faster -- Mails not the only thing... by Rouxfus · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I think the post-update speed bump most people percieve is due to re-starting and getting rid of their swap files. Whenever a unix system starts swapping memory out to disk it's gonna slow down. I keep an eye on the number of swap files - when it goes from one to two, I re-start machine, uptime be damned - once there's more than one swap file the system gets -s l o w- in my experience.

    The easiest way to track the number of swap files is to use the "Go To Folder" command in the Finder's Go menu, and type "/var". Drag the "vm" folder to the right side of the dock (bottom if the dock is oriented vertically). Now you can click and hold on that folder in the dock and the pop up dock menu will show you the swap files. Another way is to run Memory Stick.

  27. 10.2.4 broke the Linksys WPC54G AirPort2.kext hack by nsayer · · Score: 3, Informative

    10.2.4 comes with AppleAirPort2.kext version 3.0.3. This version appears to perform an extra check designed to thwart those of us who have managed to get the 3.0.1 version of the driver to talk to Linksys WPC54G and WMP54G cards.

    If you have used this (admittedly unsupported) hack to get 802.11g for older hardware, you might want to move the 3.0.1 kext out of the way and put it back. At least until this extra check is found and neutralized.

  28. Re:10.2.4 broke the Linksys WPC54G AirPort2.kext h by nsayer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, that didn't take long.

    The procedure to get your WPC54G to work with Apple's AirPort2 driver is a little more advanced now (it involves patching the driver), but it once again works.

    here is where you can get the details.

  29. Re:But Where are my Safari Tabs??? by justzisguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Was meant as a joke more than anything else. It just seems that anytime Apple releases anything now there is some guy that complains that Apple hasn't added tabs yet. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Frankly I don't care. If I want tabs, that's what Chimera is there for. :)

  30. Re:solid release...Some more Objective Numbers by EverLurking · · Score: 5, Interesting
    OK, here's my anal retentive self doing rough stopwatch timings for various application launch times under 10.2.3 and 10.2.4

    Yeah, I wanted to know if it was just my perceptions being fooled by my expectations after installing a OS upgrade or if this was indeed a real effect. Hardware: Powerbook G4 667 MHz Gigabit Ethernet,768 MB RAM, 30 GB HD

    10.2.3 => Cold Boot = 1:06, Shutdown 0:45, Login 5-7sec, Logout 6-15sec

    10.2.4 => Cold Boot = 1:07, Shutdown 0:15, Login 6sec, Logout 5sec

    The shutdown time has definitely been trimmed, but most of us OS X users will not be enjoying this speed advantage much as...we just don't have to shut down that much when the sleep/wake state is so quick and stable to use unlike my WinBlows computers.

    The following times are in seconds, timed from when icon clicked on in the Dock to when the application window was fully loaded and ready to go.
    (Task or App--10.2.3 1st run/Subsequent run--10.2.4 1st run/Subsequent run)
    Safari----11.5/03.5--14.0/03.0
    Chimera--12.0/5.1--11.0/05.2
    Mail------05.5/03.5--05.3/02.2
    Address--03.0/02.8--05.3/02.0
    iCal------04.0/03.5--04.0/04.0
    Sherlock--14.5/12.2--12.0/08.2
    Word-----05.5/02.5--05.0/03.0
    iTunes----05.2/02.2--04.5/02.0
    iPhoto----05.8/04.2--05.2/04.0
    QTPro----02.0/01.5--02.8/01.0

    Sorry the formatting is so lousy, /. won't let me do a table. Also, the errors are like +/- 0.2-0.3 sec depending on if I was reaching for my beer during the timing and missed seeing the window pop up.

    Sure it ain't scientific, but I think this update has gotten things moving along a tad faster, as have all the other .1, .2, .3 updates. Which is nice as many other OS's just seem to become more bloated with each iteration.

    DaveC

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  31. It's the Sound Card Support I'm Interested In by Spencerian · · Score: 2, Informative

    I haven't been able to confirm this beyond announcements and bits of scanning, but Mac OS X 10.2.3, and likely 10.2.4, adds basic driver support for the SoundBlaster Audigy and Extigy PCI sound cards.

    Some of you may remember that support for the Mac SoundBlaster Live card for OS X has been long in coming. But, perhaps, I'll be able to go home and toss in my SoundBlaster card and get 4.1 surround sound back.

    Or, if I had money, I'd just pick up an Audigy card normally branded for PCs, toss it in my Mac, and live the dream, baby. We'll see. Has anyone tried SoundBlaster cards with 10.2.3 or later?

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  32. Another Great release... by musicscene · · Score: 2, Informative

    After grudgingly downloading this via Software Update (network congestion?)... this installed nicely and blew away a list of bugz that I had personally.

    I am running a G3/300 Beige MT with 768MB RAM and OS X is (so far) running very nicely.

    So far so good... I too get excited when there are new Apple releases. :)

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  33. Civ players take note by TravelSizedMonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the "Other Enhancements" section:

    Improves compatibility with Firaxis Civilization III when the application's "Quartz text rendering" option is enabled.

    And who says Apple doesn't care about making the Mac a gaming platform?

  34. fixing the little things, too... by marklark · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm sorry to hear about your troubles, but...

    Before I got even partially through booting up, I knew that Apple had fixed a very annoying LITTLE problem they'd introduced with 10.2.3 -- the monitor geometry of my iMac rev A would get lost upon reboot and I'd have to stretch, move, and rotate (slightly) it to my taste.

    Now it remembers! I'm sure that very few people have this problem, as it didn't happen on my G4 at home, but it's nice to see that they're keeping up with some of the little things, too. :^)

  35. Magical Finder bug of a basically similar color by atani · · Score: 2, Informative

    Never saw the bug this update mentions fixing in the Finder, but it appears they've just replaced it with another one:

    Step 1) untar a set of files to your desktop via the terminal (possibly using GUI app too?).
    Step 2) single-click on one of the files to "verify that it's really there"... it is and is highlighted
    Step 3) perform exactly the same untar operation from the command line again
    Step 4) single-click on one/any/all of the files to "verify they're really there"... poof! it/they disappear, never to be seen again unless it is via the terminal (or you relaunch the Finder). This also happens if you click-drag to move them or click-drag to highlight multiple, as soon as you release the mouse-click... poof!
    Step 5) You're not insane, 'ls' from the terminal and sit back in awe.

    biting quips fail me on this one.