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CEE2003: A One-Vendor Trade Show

Posted by timothy on from the good-info-anyhow dept.

Billy Stephens writes "Few people knew about the CEE2003 event put on by Chaintech this year. They flew some of the top media analysts and resellers out to Spain to show off their new K8 motherboards and Nvidia Geforce FX based video cards. Unfortunately there was a lot of bad news to be had as well. AMD pushed back their Athlon 64 CPU until September so there were no motherboards based on it to show off, and Nvidia announced they would only release around 4,000 of their Geforce FX GPUs, primarily for preorders only. It looks like ATI has rattled Nvidia more than what people thought. Monkey Review has a great summary of this event with plenty of pictures. Overall I am impressed with the quality Chaintech has put into their products from an aesthetic point of view, it's a shame that both Nvidia and AMD are having product issues."

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  1. Why AMD? by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 4, Informative
    Why lump AMD with NVidia in having "issues"? Just because they delayed release of their Clawhammer products doesn't mean they're having problems. Is it their fault that Microsoft can't come up with a consumer 64-bit version operating system? Can you blame them for giving Barton more of a chance in the marketplace by making sure that it doesn't compete with Hammer at the same time?

    Just another case of a submission ruined by the submitter inserting an uninformed opinion at the end of the article.

    1. Re:Why AMD? by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Again, this is driven by market demands - there simply isn't a strong need out there for a 64-bit operating system, so why would Microsoft invest the resources required? For the mass market, hardware capabilities have advanced well ahead of customer needs, hence the steep dropoff in PC sales we've seen for the last year or more.

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  2. "aesthetic point of view?" by deft · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Overall I am impressed with the quality Chaintech has put into their products from an aesthetic point of view"

    That should be great for people who leave their boxes open and stare at them like its a TV.

    oh yeah, this is slashdot. my bad.

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  3. Collaboration by v3rb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    About the portion on "it's a shame that NVidia and AMD are having product issues". It just seems to be that Chaintech is unable to collaborate better with their vendors to make sure they don't release products that cannot be shipped in volume. I think the reason we don't see this from other manufacturers (think ATI/Intel...) because they have ways to collaborate and make sure these kind of snafu's don't happen.

    I like the way Apple releases products. You hear NOTHING until every vendor is producing in volume and they are shipping or about to ship assembled units. This whole idea of announcing products 3-12 months before they can ship is just FUD trying to keep customers from buying right now.

  4. Nvidia's Demise by Arc04 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As much as I don't want to beleive it, I am now thinking that we could be seeing the end of nVidia, just like we saw the end of 3DFX a few years back now. The GeForceFX is just so huge and noisy comapred to ATI's offering, it is not even funny.

    I guess there are not as many companies (especially computer/IT/internet companies) that can survive long these days - we are seeing more and more "infallible" companies failing nowadays.

    As soon as ATI makes better drivers for Windows/Linux and other OSes, then they will sell even more than they do now.

    I wonder if this will apply to companies such as Google and Microsoft.... :P

    Arc

    1. Re:Nvidia's Demise by kfg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      During the anti-trust trial Bill was fond of pointing out that the computer business was entirely unlike most others.

      As he put it, " Microsoft is just one good idea away from oblivion."

      Which is to say that if someone *else* came up with just the right good idea Microsoft products could become worthless virtually overnight.

      His awareness of this simple truth may go some way to explaining his absolute ruthlessness in piling up a nest egg. (I said explain. I didn't say excuse)

      Some would say that day is now.

      Nor is this fact actually unique to the computer business. It's a fact of life in any hot, new developing technology. Just look up the names of automobile companies formed between 1890 and 1910. A few of them, such as Daimler and Peugot are still around, but they're the exceptions.

      KFG

  5. Re:Jujst ahead of their time... by Jester99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it just me, or does it seem like the whole PC graphics market has gotten well ahead of their consumers and software (i.e. games)?

    Just wait 'til Doom III comes out. I, erm, might have, possibly, uh, "acquired" the E3 preview version :) and let me tell you, it looks simply incredible. That having been said, it ground a GeForce 4 Ti to a halt. Yes, it's only a preview. The final release will be probably around 300% more efficient. But still, tomorrow's games will *definitely* need the newest hardware today.

    True, the graphics market might have gotten ahead in the race for now, but then again, how would Carmack be able to test how his game runs on what the rest of us will be running next year, unless he's got that technology this year?

    I once laughed when I thought about the impossible power of a 1 GHz processor. Now, such a thing is entry-level, and any modern game will require at least that much horsepower.

    Demand does not now exist for an insanely powerful graphics card, because games have not been written yet that take advantage of such hardware. But sooner or later, games will come out that require the latest GeForce or Radeon, and the hardware makers will set their sights on the next horizon, always one step ahead.