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CEE2003: A One-Vendor Trade Show
Billy Stephens writes "Few people knew about the CEE2003 event put on by Chaintech this year. They flew some of the top media analysts and resellers out to Spain to show off their new K8 motherboards and Nvidia Geforce FX based video cards. Unfortunately there was a lot of bad news to be had as well. AMD pushed back their Athlon 64 CPU until September so there were no motherboards based on it to show off, and Nvidia announced they would only release around 4,000 of their Geforce FX GPUs, primarily for preorders only. It looks like ATI has rattled Nvidia more than what people thought. Monkey Review has a great summary of this event with plenty of pictures. Overall I am impressed with the quality Chaintech has put into their products from an aesthetic point of view, it's a shame that both Nvidia and AMD are having product issues."
Interestingly by looking at the Road Map I noticed that the 760 & 761 chipset will offer a form of integrated graphics, 760 utilizing Utlra256 Graphics and the 761 equipped with Real256E Graphics.
Yeah but, Sis still hasn't made much headway in terms of the 800 MHz FSB which Intel will soon offer, at least not in terms of what we saw from their roadmap although this might change if their able to get the appropriate "go ahead" from Intel, which, from what I hear, hasn't been an easy task.
Just another case of a submission ruined by the submitter inserting an uninformed opinion at the end of the article.
"Overall I am impressed with the quality Chaintech has put into their products from an aesthetic point of view"
That should be great for people who leave their boxes open and stare at them like its a TV.
oh yeah, this is slashdot. my bad.
There's nothing Intelligent about Intelligent Design.
Half of me wants to say that AMD and Nvidia must be insane for not keeping their timetables in better order, and the other half of me is glad that they are not releasing (or are releasing only on a minor scale) incomplete or inferior products. All of me is frustrated at the irony of these situations. I recall reading a tour of Nvidia's headquarters, which included a ton of expensive Sun hardware going to work at the design phase of the Nvidia's GPUs. The guys giving the tour said that they couldn't wait until AMD released their new 64 bit chips so they could replace those farms with Linux-powered machines on AMD hardware. Now with AMD pushing back the Athlon 64 to September, that delays Nvidia's ability to make and design chips on the hardware and software they really want to use.
About the portion on "it's a shame that NVidia and AMD are having product issues". It just seems to be that Chaintech is unable to collaborate better with their vendors to make sure they don't release products that cannot be shipped in volume. I think the reason we don't see this from other manufacturers (think ATI/Intel...) because they have ways to collaborate and make sure these kind of snafu's don't happen.
I like the way Apple releases products. You hear NOTHING until every vendor is producing in volume and they are shipping or about to ship assembled units. This whole idea of announcing products 3-12 months before they can ship is just FUD trying to keep customers from buying right now.
With an MSDN subscription you can get copies of 64 bit XP. Their download page even lists 64 bit patches and service packs, what are you talking about? Intel already sells I2 servers and desktops. Its totally AMD's issue.
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As much as I don't want to beleive it, I am now thinking that we could be seeing the end of nVidia, just like we saw the end of 3DFX a few years back now. The GeForceFX is just so huge and noisy comapred to ATI's offering, it is not even funny.
:P
I guess there are not as many companies (especially computer/IT/internet companies) that can survive long these days - we are seeing more and more "infallible" companies failing nowadays.
As soon as ATI makes better drivers for Windows/Linux and other OSes, then they will sell even more than they do now.
I wonder if this will apply to companies such as Google and Microsoft....
Arc
Check out the Tech Report's for more text, and a better picture of the video card that may never be.
Is it just me, or does it seem like the whole PC graphics market has gotten well ahead of their consumers and software (i.e. games)?
:) and let me tell you, it looks simply incredible. That having been said, it ground a GeForce 4 Ti to a halt. Yes, it's only a preview. The final release will be probably around 300% more efficient. But still, tomorrow's games will *definitely* need the newest hardware today.
Just wait 'til Doom III comes out. I, erm, might have, possibly, uh, "acquired" the E3 preview version
True, the graphics market might have gotten ahead in the race for now, but then again, how would Carmack be able to test how his game runs on what the rest of us will be running next year, unless he's got that technology this year?
I once laughed when I thought about the impossible power of a 1 GHz processor. Now, such a thing is entry-level, and any modern game will require at least that much horsepower.
Demand does not now exist for an insanely powerful graphics card, because games have not been written yet that take advantage of such hardware. But sooner or later, games will come out that require the latest GeForce or Radeon, and the hardware makers will set their sights on the next horizon, always one step ahead.