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Cracker Gains Access to 2.2 Million Credit Cards

Doctor Sbaitso writes "CNN reports that a hacker bypassed the security system of a company that processes credit card transactions and gained access to approximately 2.2 million Visa and MasterCard credit cards. Fortunately, none of them seem to have been used fraudulently."

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  1. CC# generators. by laymil · · Score: 5, Funny

    pfft, back in my day, we could generate as many valid credit card numbers as we wanted. of course, those usually got used fraudulently....

  2. What? by batboy78 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn white boys need to stay away from them computers!!

  3. in the news tomorrow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess tomorrow all the online pr0n stores will be sold out of everything!

  4. How do they know? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With 2.2 million credit card numbers to check, how do they know that the cards haven't been compromised?

    Sure, their owners might not have reported any fraudulent use yet (and the card issuers themselves may not have spotted any) but all it takes is for this hacker/cracker to have made one copy of the records which he then disseminated to one or more friends for a problem to occur.

    At the very least, the owners of the system that was broken into should be contacting their customers to let them know that there is a small but real risk that their cards numbers might be out there and that they should double check their statements for any unusual items.

    But, given that most companies would see something as proactive as this as marketing suicide (rather than use it to enforce the fact that they do everything to protect the security of their customers), I doubt that they will be so bold.

    --

    "Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
  5. Mitnick... by jbwiv · · Score: 5, Funny

    New leaf my ass. Welcome back, Kevin ;-)

    1. Re:Mitnick... by cyb97 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I guess this explains why 'the art of deception' sold 2.2M copies so fast...

  6. PIN numbers? by one9nine · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Can anybody explain to me why credit cards don't have PIN numbers like my ATM card does? Wouldn't this stop a tremendous amount of fraud? All someone needs is someone's card number and expiration date and they can do whatever they want.

    I do notice that sometimes, very rarely though, that sites will ask for that extra three digit code on the back of the card, to verify that you do in fact have the card in your hand. This the same concept as a PIN and I don't see why more web sites aren't doing it. It's not like they have to completely revamp their way of accepting credit cards, it should be a very simple fix.

    Makes me want to go back to barder. Do you think ThinkGeek would accept two dead chickens and a half wheel of gouda for one of those mini tanks with the camera?

    1. Re:PIN numbers? by Kamel+Jockey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Can anybody explain to me why credit cards don't have PIN numbers like my ATM card does? Wouldn't this stop a tremendous amount of fraud?

      No, because the PINs would probably be stored in the same unsecure manner that the other credit card information was. This is why PINs in general and/or 3 digit auth codes will be ineffective. What's needed here is better site security, not better credit card security.

      All someone needs is someone's card number and expiration date and they can do whatever they want.

      Kinda... You can actually specify any date in the future and the transaction will validate (if you use a system like Cybercash or Authorize.Net). If however, you have a human on the other side who checks the entered credit card information against what they get from the credit card company, then that human can manually disallow the transaciton.

      Unfortunately, the only real way to secure information is to store it in an encrypted form such that the key needed to decrypt the information is physically separated from the machine which contains the data. However, many websites currently use the "key under the doormat" approach to security, which in theory is no better than storing the data unencrypted and hoping that no one hacks into the system and sees it.

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  7. Re:Go away, Negro. by batboy78 · · Score: 5, Funny

    obviously the humor in the use of the word "cracker" in the article title was lost.

  8. Re:OUch by eDogg · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately, I hold one of those 2.2 million cards. I was thoroughly frustrated when my card was declined Friday, Saturday then again on Sunday. What was even odder is that I could take my bank-issued card to the ATM and withdraw $100 and get a balance statement that showed positive numbers. Finally got the "scoop" from my bank today. They gave me a different story though, said MC alone had 7 million cards compromised. Ended up having to call the "fraud" department at MC, verify my vital information and have my cards re-issued. They also took the time to verify all transactions in the last 4 days to make sure none were fraudulent. On a side note, they did try calling me, but my number had been changed.

  9. Credit card security is a joke by koreth · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I used to work on the billing system for a company that took credit card payments, and I have to say the security in the system is just laughable. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the banks losing billions a year to fraud; there are so many simple ways to plug the system's gaping holes that I think it borders on criminal negligence they haven't done so yet. A few examples off the top of my head -- with the caveat that this was all true a few years ago and may be less so today. All of what I'll describe here is pretty rampant already, so I don't think I'm revealing any state secrets.
    • Address/ZIP code verification (AVS) is fine and dandy. But for the major US credit cards (Visa, MC) it only works with US addresses! So if you have a Visa card with a Canadian or British billing address, address verification is a no-op. It didn't take our fraudulent customers long to figure that one out.
    • And even if you want to use a US ZIP code, all you need to know is the card prefix for a small regional bank (the first 4 digits of a Visa card are a bank ID) that only serves a few ZIP codes, and you can get a pretty good hit rate with random card generation.
    • Depending on the issuing bank, you can often use any expiration date you want as long as it's in the future. We used to have an option to automatically bump the expiration date forward by a year when the expiration date on a monthly-billed account went by, and most of the time it worked without any errors even in cases where we knew the bank had issued a new card with a two-year expiration time.

    Here are a few things I'd like to see in the credit card infrastructure.

    • More strict address verification. Standardize the format of street addresses such that the actual address can be verified on mail-order or online sales, rather than just the ZIP code. Some banks do already support street address verification, but it's not universal and it's pretty unreliable since there are so many different ways to format addresses and they don't always match what's in the bank database. (#10 101 1st St., 101-10 First St., 101 1st Street Suite 10, etc.)
    • Require a photo on every credit card, a la Citibank. That plus better AVS makes physical credit card theft a lot less worthwhile.
    • Smart account closures. Right now when an event like the one in the article happens, 2.2 million people have to scramble to clean up the mess of recurring payments suddenly failing through no fault of their own. The letter from the bank is followed a couple days later by a nastygram from the cable company or whatever. The infrastructure should be able to shut down a card for new transactions while allowing familiar ones to go through, where "familiar" means a vendor that's charged to the card more than N times over a period of at least M months where the amount of the new charge is within X percent of the previous charges. This one might not appear to benefit the banks at first glance, but it does: when there's a big theft of card numbers, it will cut down on the number of irate customer phone calls they have to field from people whose utilities just got shut off.
    • Single-use card numbers. I should be able to call a phone robot or hit a web site, enter my card number, and get back a virtual card number that's good for either a limited amount of time (American Express offers that) or, better still, that's only good for the first vendor who uses it. That way I'd give a different card number for each monthly payment (cable bill, Netflix subscription, etc.) and if the number was stolen, I'd only have to give a new number to that one vendor and the bank's exposure to fraudulent transactions would be negligible.
    • PINs. Again, this is more helpful for physical card theft than online theft since the PINs would be in the online databases right alongside the card numbers, but it's an obvious thing that'd make it next to useless to grab someone's wallet intending to use their cards.

    Some of these things would be a major overhaul. Some of them wouldn't. But any of them has to be doable for a lot less money than the credit industry claims it loses to fraud every year. I cannot comprehend why they don't do some of these things.

  10. So who is it? by LinuxParanoid · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This implies to me that a credit card payment gateway was compromised. Who was it?

    Inquiring minds want to know...
  11. Re:We should be moderately safe by phutureboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yep.

    My dad lost his card visiting relatives about 100 miles away in Virginia and didn't even realize it. When he got home he got a call from the credit card company, who said their software flagged a $600 purchase made at Home Depot in Virginia which didn't fit his profile, and asked whether he had made it. Sure enough, he checked his wallet and his card was gone. He realized he had left it sitting on top of an ATM or something. He did not have to pay for the Home Depot purchase.

    I was impressed with how well all that worked.

  12. Re:oops, missed the credibility express by JWSmythe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wells Fargo Bank cancelled my debit/Visa card with no notice.. Why? Because I purchased groceries in Los Angeles, and then there was a $300 purchase in the mid west for a plane ticket a few hours later.

    Unfortunately, the $300 ticket was to get my 13 year old step-daughter on a plane to see her dad. We didn't know til we got to the airport and Delta told us my card was stolen..

    I pulled out my card, and my ID, and showed it to them.. Didn't matter.. I called the bank. They had no record of who did it, only that it was reported as stolen.

    Took me 8 hours on the phones with the bank, airline, and every vendor I had bought from in the surrounding days to find out what happened.

    When the airline called to verify the card, the bank took the fact that I was buying a ticket for her to be fraud, and cancelled my card immediately.

    I went to the bank to get it fixed. They said they tried to contact me. They had my correct number on file (my cell), but said it was disconnected. I had them call my cell from their desk. Amazingly enough, it rang, and I answered.

    I've had banks call me before to verify transactions. I have no problem with that. But, lying about it pisses me off.

    I wonder how badly they'd handle me on a road trip. I drive from Florida to California and back on a semi-regular basis.. It takes me three days, with very little sleep. That would probably get the card cancelled too.. I'd hate to be stuck in Kent Texas with no gas and a cancelled credit card, because they thought I had traveled too far.

    I had a whole stack of returned items, and a whole lot of merchants to apologize to for the bank's error. I never received an apology from the bank.

    A month later (a week before xmas), they accidently closed my bank account. I didn't find out til the ATM took my new card.. Their system said there was fraudulent activity. Another bank error. They put all my funds on hold til Jan 6. Good thing I have friends who would loan me money over Christmas. It really sucks to ask your friends to buy everything.. But, they all got paid back after I got my money back.

    Every bill check I had sent out previous got bounced. Wells Fargo *ALSO* charged me $25 per check for NSF, even though the funds were in the account, but they erroniously put on fraud hold by them.

    You wouldn't believe how pissed I was when I got to the bank. I was polite at first.. They continued to tell me how they were keeping my money.. So, I got louder.. They threatened to call the cops. I told them to. I *WANTED* a cop to hear them saying that they made a mistake and took my money, and wouldn't give it to me.

    The bank security were the only nice people working there. One of the guards told me how they screwed him over too, so he was completely sympathetic. He was just standing around to make sure I didn't get physically violent. No problem there, I don't get physically violent, he doesn't have to do anything but stand there. :)

    Warning! Never Use Wells Fargo Bank!

    I finally got the second set of NSF fees dropped after a few hours of screaming.. Hopefully the customers who overheard the incident had second thoughts of keeping their account at Wells Fargo.

    [Rant Mode Off]

    I'm now using a nice small bank, that doesn't have the same problems. I told them all about it when I opened my new account. They had heard similiar stories before about them. I'm on a first name basis with the new bank, and they love me.

    --
    Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
  13. New commercial by Stonent1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Online Viagra purchase: $150
    Trisexual Midget porn : $55
    Buying it on someone elses credit card so that your wife never finds out: Priceless
    There's somet things that money can buy but you'd rather it not be your own. For everything else, there's Mastercard.

  14. Re:It's probably a matter of time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mine was stolen, but the thief's using it less than the wife did.

    ba-dum ching!