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Matrix Special Edition Cancelled

An anonymous reader writes "According to The Digital Bits, the recently announced Matrix Special Edition has been cancelled. Rumor is that it was cancelled by the Wachowski brothers in hopes of coming out with a Super Collectors Special Edition later."

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  1. No Official Reason? by TPIRman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article: "There's no official reason given as to why this SE was cancelled."

    From the studio article in the same article: "Warner Home Video will not be releasing the previously announced The Matrix Special Edition double-disc DVD. In a shift in strategy to broaden The Matrix fan base prior to the May 15 theatrical release of the highly anticipated sequel The Matrix Reloaded, Warner Home Video will reprice The Matrix DVD to $19.99 SRP on April 29."

    There's your official reason right there, and it's reasonable. If Warner released an expensive special edition now, it would push the standard Matrix DVD farther back on the shelves. The special edition would sell well, undoubtedly, but only already-dedicated fans would be willing to pay a steep price. With Warner's new strategy, stores will promote the newly-discounted standard DVD, and newbies will be that much more encouraged to get into the film -- and subsequently more likely to head to theaters for the sequel. Makes good sense from a marketing point of view.

    Also, the article doesn't say that the SE has been killed forever -- indeed, it implies that a special edition of some kind will come out when Warner thinks the time is right.

    1. Re:No Official Reason? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      except releasing special edition would not remove the standard edition for the new comers to the franchise.

      fans get the special edition
      new comers get the (cheaper) normal edition

      don't see how NOT releasing the special edition is a better option, because then you're just depriving the fans.

    2. Re:No Official Reason? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "don't see how NOT releasing the special edition is a better option, because then you're just depriving the fans."

      "Milking the franchise via special edition DVD's" has been a hot topic lately. Lots of people feel burned when they buy a DVD, only to have a new DVD a few months later that contains bonus footage.

      It's possible that the Wachao..uh...however-you-spell-their-name Brothers has concerns about this release tainting a future and potentially more lucrative release.

    3. Re:No Official Reason? by rabiteman · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Fans will go to the movie anyway, and they'll buy the special collector edition whenever it comes out.

      If they released both, they'd have two products competing for shelf-space needlessly.

      Oh, you mean products competing for shelf space like Warcraft III and the Warcraft III Collector's Edition? Or do you mean more like Windows XP Home vs Windows XP Pro? Hang on, maybe you mean it would be two competing products like 4-cylinder vs 6-cylinder models of the same automobile? Or perhaps the way Sony's top-of-the-line A/V equipment competes with its entry-level versions?

      It sure is a good thing that companies don't sell differently graded versions of the same product -- imagine the confusion if Coca-Cola began selling 12oz, 20oz, and 2L units of its beverages! The large 'fan' size would push the smaller 'newbie' drinks off the shelf! And even if the smaller sizes did get shelf space, they'd be competing with each other due to the similarity of their sizes. All the consumers would just get fed up of trying to decipher the options in front of them and end up leaving the store with a few 40s of Olde English instead.

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    4. Re:No Official Reason? by someguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You seem to be missing the idea behind normal retail.

      Car dealerships don't have hundreds of models like places that sell movies have hundreds of movies.

      Coke is a firmly entrenched product. In many places it isn't even competing with more than one other company. The campus I attend school at is exlusively Coke. This isn't a situation they can pull with the Matrix DVDs.

      Your Warcraft example doesn't really hold up either. At most times there are no more than a few dozen titles that are being pushed by retail outlets. Again, many fewer titles to compete for marketshare than in the movie section.

      Or maybe you do see the Matrix as being that important as to be on the same level. What WB seems to be trying to accomplish here is ensuring greater sales for the super Matrix edition later by teasing people in with the entry level. Newbies who bought the Matrix normal edition and fell in love probably wouldn't be willing to go out the next day and get the super version. Give them a few months to dig on the normal version AND a new movie - you've not only sold a basic copy, but a super copy as well to the same person.

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    5. Re:No Official Reason? by AttillaTheNun · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not quite a fair comparison. Windows didn't come out with XP Home, then 6 months later (with no advanced notice) Windows XP Pro. Honda doesn't release a 4-cylinder model, then follow it up 6 months later with a 6-cylinder model with no advanced warning. Coke is a disposable product, not a collectible, so it doesn't even remotely apply. The point is, I wouldn't have bothered with the initial release if I had known that 6 months later (or in this case, 4 years later) the "ultimate" release would be available that makes my initial purchase less worthy. I wouldn't mind if the original release was much cheaper ($10), as long as I knew a better version was available down the line. Then I could choose whether I wanted the simpler/cheaper package now or wait for the "ultimate" release. New Line, to their credit, did just this with Lord of the Rings. I chose to wait and compare the two releases (the original vs the 4-disk set) and I chose to buy the 4-disk set (even though it cost more).

  2. Dilution by chemstar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wonder to what extent the expeience of the movie itself becomes diluted with such marketing iterations.

  3. Not to mention... by JayBlalock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The "Special Edition" DVD was going to be 90% recycled material from the original Matrix and Matrix Revisited DVDs, with only a bit more added. Perhaps someone realized that no one was going to buy it. (casual fans would just buy the movie, hardcore fans already have 'Revisited') Kudos to the Wachowskis for NOT trying to gouge their fans!

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  4. Very Nice Move by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > Rumor is that it was cancelled by the Wachowski brothers in hopes of coming out with a Super Collectors Special Edition later."

    rather than trying to milk us for both the Special Edition and then (surprise!) the Super Collectors Special Edition.
    The theater release schedule is terrific as well.

    The Wachowski brothers are going to have a huge and satisfied fan base simply by doing the opposite of whatever this guy has done.

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  5. Ah, the Lucas gambit by sql*kitten · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Rumor is that it was cancelled by the Wachowski brothers in hopes of coming out with a Super Collectors Special Edition later

    This is how it works:
    1. Shoot a movie, but keep all the unused material from the cutting room floor
    2. Every few months, splice some of these back into the film, think of a new name for the film like "Special Edition", "Director's Cut", "Colllector's Edition" or any combination of the above, or reformat it to widescreen. Sell this new film at full price in the stores.
    3. PROFIT!!


    Who are the customers? Die hard fans, and relatives who have no idea what to get someone for xmas/birthday but remember that they liked the film when it was on at the cinema. Don't get me wrong, I thought The Matrix was a good film, but it was never a cultural revolution, it was always a franchise.
  6. DVD Crock ! by bushboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Beware of what your buying into...

    You pay the price to see the movie big-screen and then they can fleece you later on with the same movie on DVD that has *EXTRA FEATURES*

    Later on, there's a super-extended *Directors Cut* version.

    The bad side of this digital-age is obvious - overpriced, over-sold, over exagerated, redundant.

    The good side is not so obvious and rarely seen these days - pure quality and value for money.

    This quality is out there, but my god, you have to wade through 90% of crap to find it.

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    1. Re:DVD Crock ! by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >> they can fleece you later on with the same movie on DVD that has *EXTRA FEATURES*

      How is that fleecing you? You don't need to buy the Special Edition, the Collectors Edition, and the Boxed Set when it's released.

      I don't get the whole "how dare they think of offering a product that I dont need" attitude.

      You dont want it? Dont buy it. What's the rub?

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  7. Re:Hmmm... by sweetooth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You mean like every other movie out there? I love how the James Bond box set was released right before the theatre release of a new movie. Hmmm, maybe so they can sell an updated boxed set later on? Or X-Men 1.5. If I had known they were going to release a special edition before X2 came out I would have waited. Instead I'm just going to be happy with the original release. Of course most of my friends rushed out and bought 1.5.

    It's all about gouging the customers for an extra $40. I can't tell you how many people I know didn't realize that a LoTR:FoTR special edition was going to be released in November. They rushed out and bought the theatrical release and then bought the special edtion later for the extra footage. Of course the theatrical release will sit on a shelf collecting dust, but the studio got their extra $20 so who cares right?

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  9. The brothers made a good move by quick9vb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think they made a good move by delaying this. They decided not to alientate those potential customers who are not already Matrix loyalists as other movie franchises have, i.e. Star Wars, LOTR. It is tough for a non-franchise fan to get into the all movie hoopla if they haven't seen where the franchise originated, especially if they have to spend $50 for a special edition for a movie they aren't even sure they will like.

    Opinions may vary on what franchise is best, or whether or not this was a good move for the current fan base, but in the end it will all work out. The Matrix fanatics who are complaining and freaking out about the announcement will still be the first ones in the line to purchase the special editions next spring.

  10. Your friends (and you) are to blame - not New Line by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wish people would stop bashing on New Line for releasing the extended version of FOTR a few months after releasing the theatrical version. New Line made this perfectly clear right from the start and, unless you were an idiot or had money to burn, you had no reason to buy the initial release if you knew it was the later version that you would secretly lust for.

    sweettooth, what more did you expect from New Line? An Uruk-Hai warrior standing at every store bashing you on the head whilst shouting "longer version out in November" if you tried to buy the standard release?

    Don't any of your friends who are so DVD-crazy that they buy films as soon as they are released read any film or home video magazines that would have spelt it out for them in big letters? Don't they have a friend (such as yourself) who would tell them to hold their horses until the super-duper version comes out?

    In short, sweettooth, what the hell did New Line do wrong except keep their customers well informed and is it their fault that nobody in your inner circle knew what practically everyone else who cared managed to find out?

    Yeah, New Line. Real SOBs for telling you just what they're going to do and then actually doing it...

    Sheesh. Some people.

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  11. It's all a publicity/hype stunt... by Code-Ex · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah... sure... we're going to produce a special DVD... got your attention? got you talking to friends? okay... now were not... got your attention again? got you talking to your friends again?

  12. Re:Matrix was ok but not worth of any greatness. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Robots can't get Fusion or Fission going?
    Actually, they did get "a formof fusion" going, according to Morpheus' explaintion. It was suppossedly this combined with the humans as betteries that powered the 'bots. Why you would need human generators if you had fusion is the stupid-bar I cannot seem to jump over to really get into this film.

    The real reason to hate the Wachowski's over this (now) series of derivative crap ("computers take over the world" as a plot jumped the shark 2 seconds after the Terminator gave a thumbs up while being dunked in molten metal) is that they bankrupted the spfx company that did the first Matrix, and then picked someone else when it came time to do the sequel instead of unloading a little bit of the megabucks that rolled in from the first one to ressurect the die-hards who starved. So they're not just assholes, but unethical assholes to boot.

  13. Re:Fine with me! by el_gregorio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    sometimes, though, the deleted scenes were very well done and perfectly acted; but just didn't fit the flow of the movie. good scenes with insightful commentary ( esp. those by M Night Shyamalan -- 6th Sense, Unbreakable ) can give you an interesting deeper perspective into certain characters, that may have been trimmed from the original release simply because of time constraints.

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