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Swapping Clock Cycles for Free Music?
droopus writes "USA Today is reporting on an innovative business model for the music business. Free music for your spare CPU cycles.
Honest Thief says the firm has developed software, to be available in the second quarter of this year, that will enable file-sharing providers to capitalize on the unused CPU cycles of their members. That in turn would allow them to raise money to compensate artists for the use of their material.
Honest Thief said the software, known as ThankYou 2.0, enables a peer-to-peer file-sharing client to turn the computers of digital music fans into nodes in a distributed net.
By leasing out the processor power on distributed nets to research facilities the firm could generate revenues that would be distributed back to the musicians.
Some very smart people have suggested this before, but this seems like the first real implementation. "
your PC just sitting there is not worth $150/year. If it were, then the company would just buy one for $450, and depreciate it over 3 years.
As if research institutions have the money to pay people for all those clock cycles. Hell, people do it for SETI for free and SETI *still* has money problems.
I'll form my OWN solar system! With blackjack! And hookers!
If I'm giving up my clock cycles, it's not really free, is it?
I have come to believe there is no "free music", just a point where ones tolerance is higher than the perceived level of annoyance caused by the "not free" (whether it's commercials, Carson Daily, or unused processor cycles...)
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besides, the dialup users are not the concern of the RIAA and friends. That one mp3 per hour doesn't amount to much, at least compared to when I queue up a couple hundred and average about 1 every 30 seconds.
This business model just doesn't make sense. HonestThief is going to compensate users with something they could get for free (illegally) anyway and in a way that's much less portable than cash - so where is the user's incentive? On top of that, HonestThief will have to provide the music store and infrastructure to provide that "payment," not just to the users but the musicians as well. Seems like a MAJOR distraction, as opposed to simply cutting checks for the equivalent value to the users.
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It seems like Honest Thief is offering to pay record companies from the proceeds from an arguably untested business model
Untested is the key word. I think this idea is worth testing. People have been preaching this sort of thing for a long time; why not try it?
You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
According to definitions of theft and stealing, you can't steal music by downloading copies. It might be horribly immoral, it might be wrong, but it is not stealing.
(Just because I similarly do not mislabel rapes as murders does not mean I favor any of them; just trying to be accurate with words).
so why don't you subscribe to /., and then you really might have a better chance of getting first post. Since you (and many, many other AC and logged-in trolls) feel compelled to waste the seemingly endless amounts of free time you have, you might as well help pay the bills for the website whose users and owners you're annoying.
I know there are a few entities that would pay for unused cycles, but I think they are few and far between. I will bet that the numbers of potential "sellers" of cycles will far outstrip the buyers very quickly.
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Ie, trojan horse?
Unless such an endeavour was open source, why would you trust it?
Frankly, these guys are asking for more trust than most people would extend their next-door neighbours. And abusing that trust would be far too easy.
Yes, SETI, distributed.net have shown the altruistic potential of such software but we're not talking about non-profit organisations here, we're talking about corporations, and the only language that corporations know is the language of money. And people interested in making money don't always put other people's (data) security high up on their list of priorities.
To be honest, I'd rather spend some hard cash buying music online or in the local record store. At least that way I know I'll never wake up one day to find that my system's been hacked by a script kiddie who was given the keys to my virtual front door by a "harmless" piece of software.
A touch paranoid, perhaps, but better safe than sorry is my motto.
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Before I allow some peer to peer client the ability to let other users run programs on my machine.
err... on purpose that is
I'm sure Kazaa already has plenty of ways to let users do this, but ignorance is bliss.
This seems sort of ridiculous, only because of the power of our processors. Do you really thank that one x86 processor which is connected by no more than a 256 kb/s connectionis going to be worth more than $5 a year or so to the ILM? I think not. They want huge Sun servers with gigabytes of memory which can crush numbers that rival that of the bloat of your Mozilla installation which you use to download the software. The money that you'll be earning will not be enough to buy more than one CD every couple of months, let alone the massive quantities of anything you can get your hands on needed to fill that 200 gigabyte quota you need to get onto that amazing DC++ hub you'll be downloading.
additionally,
it does not have to pay for the air conditioning costs to keep them cool too. Moreover beyond money you dont have to generate the electricity to power and cool the waste heat. instead the heat is dumped in the users homes and is not waste: it subtracts directy from the heat bill. and uses clean-water, clean air, anti-war nuclear power instead of say oil or gas (for which we fight wars).
Or even build a building, thus lessening development forces and consumption of water.
also this halves smaller disposal problem of computers. certainly they save on disposla costs. But also the land fill has fewer computers in it total (i.e. the one on your desk and the one in their rack will go to the dump --thats 2 computers. Or if you share it then that's only one computer in the dump)
by promoting electronic distribution (legal that is) of music we save the cost of millions of shipped packages every year containing CDs.
Since I might be willing to pay more for broad band if I were effectively getting a rebate on my use of it, it will promote broadband usage and higher profits for the companies that provide it, while not costing me more.
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So... I can barter my cpu cycles for music through this system... that's nice. What if there were a way that I could provide my CPU cycles for others to use, and get some kind of "generic credit" in return.
Then, I could use that "generic credit" to buy music, or EVEN OTHER THINGS! Hell, what if I could provide ANY service or product and get this generic credit??
Maybe we could call it "money".
it begs the question how much free music for how much cpu power
Not really
Has the entirety of Slashdot fallen for yet another "redefinition scam"? Lots of people talking about how great this compromise sounds, and failing to consider something which seems, IMO, very obvious...
We already have COMPLETELY FREE music distribution. ClearChannel has currently cornered the market on it, but a few college stations still exist with a "real" playlist.
The entire issue of internet radio just serves to blur some lines thanks to the magical argument of "but this uses DIGITAL transmission". I thought the Slashdot crowd had enough of a clue to see through that argument, and usually take companies to task for even daring to suggest using it.
And now some company has very "generously" found a way to save all us poor little geeklings from having to pay for something we don't presently pay for anyway?
ThankYou 2?
FuckYou too.
Go take your sad little attept to find yet another way to screw the consumers by "giving" them something they already have (in this case "services rendered" rather than actual cash payments), and leave us the hell alone.
When the RIAA et al come to their senses and get a clue, I'll consider go back to paying their pleasure tax. In the mean time, my music collection has grown roughly 3x faster for the same money by buying $5/CD indie music directly from the artists (of which, the artist gets far more than they would for major-label discs), instead of $15/CD for canned formula-pop-hit trash.
Bitter? Hell yeah! I've grown *SO* sick of hearing about various attempts to repackage something we already have for free (or cheap) and charge us more for it...
Could be an interesting way to address micro payments. They maintain an on-line account that builds credits for the useage. This account could be accessed for any micro charges. Newspaper articles and such. I'm loath to hand out my credit card number to every site out there but a CPU useage account would be more like found money. Not sure how viable the whole approach is but there are definate uses for any funds that it would generate even if they have not off-line cash value.
Here we have a company that is perfectly willing to pay them for their copyright claims. Yet, quoting from the article:
This pretty much reveals it all. In fact, that second paragaph is particularly interesting; "...and have said they will press ahead with an effort to enforce their rights". Anti-trust legislators around the world should really begin asking them exactly what "rights" they're really trying to enforce, because it's quite obviously not copyrights that they're interested in. And when a cartel believe it has a right to control distribution, governments should have an interest in protecting the public from the corruption of that cartel. And if the recording industry is not a corrupt cartel, then Microsoft is not a monopoly.
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