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SuSE 8.2 Announced
Venotar writes "It looks like SuSE's once more setting the bar pretty high. According to their recent announcement, SuSE 8.2's release date is set for April 12th. Amongst other nifty features, KDE 3.1 apparently includes tabbed browsing, the ability to sync with Exchange servers, a new administration tool called "Desktop sharing" that allows remote control of other desktops, and several interesting new crypto/security features. Gnome 2.2 is also included, as well as a profile manager for mobile users, and gcc 3.3. Have a lot of fun!"
Speaking of which, Mandrake 9.1 final is due out next week, also with KDE 3.1 and other goodies. Free to download, 650MB ISOs so even the most antique CD drives and burners should be happy.
Looking forward to Kolab maturing (due I think with KDE 3.2), will be an excellent tool for chasing the Borg-remnants out of many enterprises.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
Both Mandrake and Knoppix clearly out-detect SuSE in some areas.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
From the writeup:
Amongst other nifty features, KDE 3.1 apparently includes tabbed browsing, the ability to sync with Exchange servers, a new administration tool called "Desktop sharing" that allows remote control of other desktops,
From the parent:
If i'm not mistaken... the "Desktop Sharing" feature is part of KDE 3.1, so any one who upgrades to that version gets that particular functionality - not just those on SuSE 8.2.
SuSE is a great distro, but credit where credit is due, please.
I've heard of not reading the article, but not reading the /. writeup? Come on!
As an aside, I swear I'm going to install KDE 3.1 one of these days when I have time, it looks nice (shiny!)
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UnitedLinux is only in SuSE's highend server offerings. UnitedLinux is based on SuSE Enterprise Server. I don't think that many other Linux vendors other than Red Hat have the influence, money, and talent that SuSE does, and their distro is pretty nice. The availability of SuSE packages, however, is pretty limited. I gave up with it because I couldn't find any packages for anything I wanted, and I couldn't find any SuSE docs that described how to make an RPM, and I like my packages to fit in with standards of the distro. RPMFind was pretty useless for finding SuSE packages...
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Interesting choice - apparently GCC 3.3 includes a lot of work SuSE have contributed. Will this be as controversial as Redhat's compiler choice of 2.96 a while back?
Probably not. GCC 3.3 will be an actual official FSF release. By the time 12 April comes around I doubt SuSE's gcc lags behind the official FSF release much. Remember, 2.96 and 2.97 were basically continuations of the 2.9x branch, after the FSF had basically stopped working on it and started working on GCC 3.x.
Thing is, gcc 3.x broke things. Also, Red Hat had a collection of IA-64 improvements for gcc that may not have made it into mainline yet. So, they made the unofficial releases because they felt that's what served their customers best. 2.96 was, I understand, the best gcc for IA-64 for a while. It just happened to have problems in other areas, unfortunately ...
Well you can get it via FTP about a month after release for free.
Personnally I don't miss ISO's.
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As far as I understand, many tools SuSE has developed for their own distribution are not available under GPL or some other free software license. The tools Mandrake and Red Hat develop can usually be used in other distributions while SuSE tools, especially YaST, can't be.
Or wait 12 weeks for suse to release most of it on their mirrors. Then wait another 12 weeks to get connected and download it even if you have an OC12.
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Amongst other nifty features, KDE 3.1 apparently includes tabbed browsing, the ability to sync with Exchange servers, a new administration tool called "Desktop sharing" that allows remote control of other desktops, and several interesting new crypto/security features.
Wake up and smell the coffee! All these nifty new features are standard in KDE 3.1. Nothing apparent about it. You might have just as well said "SuSE will include KDE" and be done with it.
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I'm afraid you're right about SuSE being more preofessional, BUT my personal little "annoy me again in the next release, my little bug"-list just keeps getting longer and longer. I really can't see the point in adding more and more features when the bugs just don't... wait! This is nothing new at all- sorry.
DISCLAIMER: I am a SUSE (8.1) user, but I've never tried this.
What you do is to download their Live Evaluation CD. You then use that to download the rest via ftp. The link is to version 8.1.
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Just to add to this. Mandrake the distribution has been highly profitable for years. Mandrake corporation is in trouble because of E-education contracts. If they did nothing but sell a distribution they'd be fine.
Yea, I run Gentoo on a lot of machines. I like it a lot.
The package system in Gentoo is ridiculously easy to maintain. You'll never get left behind because your glibc is out dated and it's too hard to upgrade. You'll always have the newest stuff (if you want it) and everything is compiled to fit your system and your specifications exactly.
Not everyone will like how Gentoo compiles everything from sources. I hope that somewhere down the road people start adapting the same package system to their binary-based distributions. It's really great!
You also do have the option of creating your own binary packages, to use on other machines. This is good for stuff that takes a long time to compile (KDE, X, Gnome, etc) and it's good for installing Gentoo on slower machines.
- It's not the Macs I hate. It's Digg users. -
"The KDE scanning application Kooka and the commercial OCR tool Kadmos enable users to scan both printed and hand-written texts into the word processing application."
"With the comfortable and enhanced SuSE configuration profile manager, notebook users, who commute between different locations, can switch to the network and hardware configurations of every office site and therefore, can use scanners and printers of the respective location with a simple mouse click."
"[...] and the possibility to store folders in the running system in a crypto file system without the need for a new partitioning." That sounds really cool.
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Read the full announcement at http://www.suse.com/us/company/press/press_releas
This version of SuSE isn't out yet, but yes you can do an FTP install of SuSE. If you go to ftp.suse.com and work your way through to the 8.1 tree of it [as 8.2 isn't out yet ;o)] then you can download the floppy disks / boot iso which should enable you to do an ftp install.
Alternatively, just ftp the whole shebang to ur hdd. (if you can manage without the source rpm:s it's a couple of gigs. Then run the live cd, and youll have the possibility to mount your directory containing your packages. This will keep you fromin blind rage throwing your computer out the window when the ftp link dies mid-install. (And it probably will, trust me)
DISCLAIMER:I tried this one or two minor versions ago, and it worked then. They may have changed sometheing now, to make it not work. Also, I don't remember if it was possible to make bootdisks for the old-fashioned of us./DISCLAIMER
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The smallest configuration with X gives you a nice desktop with all the GUI configuration tools. Then all you have to do is start up YAST and install KDE to have the default configuration. While the download goes on, you can already configure the rest of your OS. I did this with Suse 8.1, should work with this version as well.
To be fair, RedHat does make freely available the actual update packages and are mirrored to all the other redhat mirrors.
What you're really paying for (or if you're not paying for it and you're using one 'demo' account and floating a whole lot of systems between it) is the email notification, web based remote managment of the updating, and the automatic RPM depenedency resolution, which for a huge update (say after you install a machine) save a *lot* of time.
There is apt for SuSE.
apt for SuSE
What are you smoking? Other than YaST and perhaps a few other proprietary apps SuSE is as free as any other commercial Linux. The sources are available for download at the same time the rest of the distro is put out on their FTP servers, if that's not fast enough for you they're also included on the DVD/CD sets that SuSE sells. Recompile and distribute to your hearts content.
Better, use Debian ya deadbeat and stop raggin on people that like to make a few bucks off of their hard work.