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Mining Mars from Houston
An anonymous reader writes "Computer simulations of what bits of Earth, Mars and Venus might be found on the moon point to new methods for extraterrestrial sample return. Because the moon is lifeless, its sterile condition gives a very rare laboratory for collecting what may be as high as 3 grams of Earth's past, from the half-ton of lunar rocks and soil that Apollo returned for study [3 grams (Earth-terran), 0.03 grams (Mars), 0.003 grams (Venus)]. While such interplanetary exchanges are now thought common, what is surprising is these pristine samples often have never exceeded a temperature of around 100 F. Any similar planetary samples found today in, say, Antarctica, would have been weathered, eroded, or contaminated."
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ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS: WHO BENEFITS?
Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) is the most popular self-help
organization for individuals with alcohol-related problems. This
includes both alcohol-dependent and, to a lesser extent,
alcohol-abusing drinkers. For any people, self-help through AA is the
only alcoholism treatment they receive. Other members join the
fellowship before entering professional reatment or are introduced to
AA as a component of their professional treatment. Attendance at AA
also commonly is recommended as after- care following professional
treatment. Yet experience shows that not all clients benefit from AA to
the same extent. Therefore, two questions arise: Who does well in AA,
and why do these people succeed?
These questions do not have simple answers, however,
because outcome (i.e., reduction of drinking or improvement of
psychological and social characteristics) associated with AA, as with
any kind of alcoholism treatment, is influenced by many characteristics
of the clients and the AA groups. For example, the success of AA
participation depends not only on an individual's initial decision to
attend AA but also on the degree of his or her involvement in AA (e.g.,
frequency of attendance at meetings, "sharing" at meetings, or
serving as or having an AA sponsor). Even similar levels of AA
involvement may result in different outcomes for different people,
depending on the individual' s characteristics and experiences with
professional treatment.
Despite four decades of AA research, no clear picture
has emerged as to which patient characteristics can predict a positive
outcome with AA and, therefore, can be used as criteria for matching
patients to AA. This is due in part to the limitations and variability
of methodological approaches used in the studies. Most investigators
recruit their samples from patients in inpatient or outpatient
treatment settings. Some studies retrospectively analyze patients
with previous AA experience to identify personal characteristics that
predicted AA involvement. In other studies, patients are monitored
after professional treatment to determine which characteristics may
motivate them to join AA and how AA affiliation influences outcome. In
both approaches, the kind and impact of the professional treatment
often is ignored. Other confounding factors in research about AA
include an incomplete understanding of processes within AA and
differences among various AA groups.
To date, only three randomized clinical trials have
examined the efficacy of AA participation, either with or without
additional simultaneous treatment approaches (Ditman et al. 1967;
Brandsma et al. 1980; Walsh et al. 1991). The vast majority of AA
studies, however, have focused on two narrower questions: Which factors
predict whether a person will join AA? And how does involvement in AA
predict outcome? In an attempt to answer these two questions, Emrick
and colleagues (1993) reviewed 107 previously published AA studies.
Although their analysis provided estimates of the magnitude of the
relationships determining AA affiliation and drinking outcome, it also
acknowledged that many relationships may differ when study findings are
grouped by client characteristics. Tonigan and colleagues (1994)
extended the initial analyses by taking into account factors such as
sample gender and origin (i.e., inpatient versus outpatient). This
article integrates the findings of these two reviews and concludes with
recommendations for future research of AA.
WHO JOINS AA?
To determine which drinkers were most likely to join
AA, Emrick and colleagues (1993) reviewed 33 studies[1] that addressed
this question, analyzing 31 demographic and drinking-related client
characteristics. The characteristic most strongly correlated with
joining AA was the drinkers' previous u
One gram is one gram, be it on Earth, Mars, or Uranus. Mass is not Force.
some sort of wierd SI unit?
half of e to the third?
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ALG: exp ( 1 / 3 ) / 2 =
9 keystrokes
RPN: 3 1/x exp 2
5 keystrokes
Does it help mine Uranus?
One thing I would point out is that there is very little chance of recovering DNA from these samples, Correct me if I am wrong (I'm sure that will happen :) ) but organic matter would not stand a chance against the vacuum and radiation involved here.
Put on the proper space suit with no leakage before exploring for gold on that planet. Watch out for wind storms. Explore with caution!
We can find traces of earth's past, such as objects from Iraq (the birthplace of humanity) and see that the inhabitants from North America hated the inhabitants from the birthplace of humanity as far ago as 6000 years?
I once jerked off into some moon rock. mabye you'll find my DNA in it.
"Weird, wild stuff," to quote Johnny Carson.
"All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - George Orwell
The grammar in the submission is unbelievably appalling.
"Its sterile surface gives a very rare laboratory for collecting..."
I give you me good? What exactly do you mean? Is there a such thing as a very common laboratory?
"...often have never exceeded a temperature of around 100 F. Any similar planetary samples found today in, say, Antarctica, would have been weathered, eroded, or contaminated."
I somehow don't think temperatures exceeded 100 F in the Antarctic either. Doesn't the fact that they found "material" from three different planets, and possibly from other unknown sources as well, indicate that it too was contaminated? What would you also call meteorite strikes? Wouldn't they also be a form of weathering or contamination?
I simply don't get what the submittor is trying to say. I'm sure it's something important, but the poor grammar and logic were more noticeable than the story itself.
"All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - George Orwell
woooowww, what a krazy troll name! what krazy troll name will they cum up with next!??!
Getting high on 3 grams of "Earth's past"!
apparently, it's used by some people bound together by greed for wealth and power who disregard everyone but themselves to get ahead in life.
You're kidding. There's oil on Mars?
Ralph: I found a moonrock up my nose...
Bart: Houston,... we have a problem...
Unmanned gathering of moon rock was carried out back in 1972 by the Russians. It took 7 years after the analysis was published before anyone realized that there were organic patterns in the samples.
Real images of the fossils show bacteria-like shapes. There were claims that these fossils prove existance of life elsewhere in space but it seems more likely to me that they somehow came from Earth.
Japan's space agency,ISAS, is attepmting to send
a probe to asteroid 1998SF36 and get sample to
retrun to Earth.
Launch will take place 2003, May.
http://www.isas.ac.jp/e/index.html
I want em in me!
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USA hasn't signed for The international tribunal.
The USA also hasn't signed The Aye approval for private property at war.
Buy a pack of squares
Arrive at the apartment
Confront the investor
Explain the situation
Have him sign the documents
Bind him to a chair
Handcuff him
Place him face down on the bed
Shoot him once
Remember gloves
Scan apartment
Kill the dog, kill the dog, kill the dog, evidence
Kill the dog, kill the dog, kill the dog, evidence
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I started out drinking, I stays that way
mm mm all in me
And I killed another day
On the wall there's another there
I hacked through another night
By the look of mm my hand
I'm adrift and I can't mm
I started out hating myself and when I'm through
I've gotta have something to hate, and I guess it's you
Man's gotta have something to hate, guess I'll do
And when I'm through with myself, I'll start on you
Everything I do, it's do-or-die
I started out drinking, I wonder why
I started out drinking, mm mm mm mm
mm mm mm mm all in me
And I killed another day
On the wall there's another there
I hacked through another night
Another wrinkle in my skin
Another trip that I can't make
Man's gotta hate someone, and I guess I'll do
And when I'm through with myself, I'll start on you
I started out hating myself, now that I'm through
I'm looking for someone to hate, guess you'll do
You mean Al Mardh?
Mod me up if you agree!
Am lonely hermaphrodite seeking two people to fill both my holes simultaneously.
Because our moon is lifeless, it is one of the cuntlicking most spanking places to look for the thrusting gangbanged records of life elsewhere. At least according to recent estimates for the jerking amount of raunched rocks that might survive there, the blowing Moon may hold clues from the charvering early history of Mars, Venus and Earth. The raiding browning titled "K/T Hit" by artist Donald E. Davis. This impact felched 65 million charvers ago, ending the fingering reign of the squirting dinosaurs. Image "Assrush" Credit: Don "Motherfucker" Spews Prior to the screwing work of John "Plugin" Armstrong and fistfucks from the University of Washington and Iowa "Rugmuncher" State, there were no fingerfucked "estimates for the barfing abundance of Terran, Martian, and Venusian assfucks on the Moon." To fill this gap, the squirting team undertook computer simulations based on the impact muff sniffs from 3.9 billion years ago during what is gangbanged the Late "Suck my tits dry" Heavy Bombardment--the last time that the inner solar system was assfucked with asteroid debris. The fingering simulations must take account of the gravity and escape velocities for each inner planet, the raiding orbital paths of licks wanks, and finally the barfing Moon's ability to capture strategic samples. One of the fomping cuntlicks such enters might be so valuable is "to substantiate or extend a blowing contested fossil record that squirts 3.5 billion years (3.5 Ga) ago", writes Armstrong, thus filling in what early Earth life might have smooched. Even shorter spans are available for Venus, where its surface records were catastrophically cuntlapped 700 million years ago. The fucking Washington study indicates that if such meteorites reached Earth- and could be deep throated even from the ice plains of Antarctica- a lunar sample would still be raunched as the titty fucking best recorded history lesson. Whether from wind (atmosphere), water, or fire (volcanism), the Moon's lack of erosion might provide a unclefucking unique collection muff sniffed to anywhere else in our solar system. The authors note: "Most significantly, the Moon lacks the water capable of unclefucking contaminants into the interior of rocks through raunchs." Boomerang from the Past Cocksucking the debris spray from a heavy bombardment assfucked motherfucking. Three unclefucks were titty fucked: 1) "direct transfer", where the fingering farted rocks liftoff the screwing Earth, Mars or Smoochs with medium velocity, but not too high that the Moon could not have captured them; 2) "orbital transfer", where the unclefucking meteorite blows sex fights at high speed, but comes back later to land on the cuntlicking lunar surface; and finally, 3) "lucky strikes", where the felching fistfucks farts blows with the muff sniffing Moon directly. Lunar "Butplug" Clementine mission shows the South "Thrushmore" Pole of the Moon. The wad pulling permanently blowed region center shows evidence of meteor cratering and ice never raunched to direct sunlight. Credit: NASA/DOD Clementine In the Earth's case, at least, the jerking incoming unclefucks or fragments during Late "Spunksupper" Heavy Bombardment average a whopping 14 blows per second (or around 31,000 miles per hour [MPH]). To escape the motherfucking Earth's gravity (or reach escape velocity), the farting felching rocks also must have a relatively high speed, around 11.5 km/s (37,000 MPH). To complete the spewing lunar capture, a final high-speed event must include an impact on the assfucking Moon, or a cuntlapping shock that would complete the sample's journey after a relatively hard-entering at around 2-5 km/s (~10,000 MPH). One discovery from computer fomps was that the second method of licking rocks on the moon--orbital transfer-- is dominant. Most (58% by spanks) of the motherfucking terrestrial fucks (called Terran) that would be cuntlapped today on the Moon, would have left Earth in all deep throats, but then later have come back to visit on a fingering centuries-old, boomerang pattern that depends on its orbit and lunar
this is what you wanted? this is what you're gonna get.
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Notice the orange pebbles in this soil sample. Now check out yellow ones here. The yellow ones probably have come from venus but have not been tested yet.
http://saveie6.com/
There are some scientists worred about bringing samples directly from Mars to Earth. Fears of some unknown contamination. A moon base would be a perfect place to return from a Mars trip with samples. Keeps Earth isolated from possible contaminants.
doesn't matter, if there ARE any martians, they can either get with the 'program', or be deleted with the rest.
EWWWWWW! Nasty! In the name of god do not click on the links!!
So The Moon is contaminated with Mars Bars !
MMMmmmm, Cheese Flavoured Mars Barrrrrsssss.....
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A slashdotting - you get the stick first and then the carrot !
This is what could happen if you overdrink! Now do you really want to drink again? I think not.
Why is everthing some exponent of a third of a gram?
Funding research on bringing back oil/minerals from high-radiation, toxic environments will certainly come in handy if the middle-east goes nuclear....
:-)
Yes, I'm feeling cynical today.....
Search 10 square km on the moon to find a speck of mars of a micro speck of venus.
.003 grams?
Wouldn't it just be easier to send a probe to those planets and sent back say 10 POUNDS of ROCK!
hello?
Ya we got 400kg of the moon here but think there going to let them go over everything looking for that
[3 grams (Earth-terran), 0.03 grams (Mars), 0.003 grams (Venus)]
Harumph! Grams are a unit of mass, not of weight, and thus independant of the gravitational force exerted on it. 3 grams on Earth is 3 grams on Mars is 3 grams on Venus is 3 grams in freefall.
Not only that, but the gravity of Venus is not one tenth that of Mars, it is closer to twice that of Mars: Venus is nearly as big as Earth. (Nor is the gravity of Mars only 1/100th Earth, it's about 1/3 Earth.)
Geez. If somebody was trying to be funny, it came off as incredibly stupid.
-- Alastair
The amounts they're talking about are what they expect to be able to extract from the half-ton or so that Apollo returned. 3 grams of material from Earth, 0.03g from Mars (makes sense, it's a hell of a lot further away), and 0.003g from Venus (far away, and closer to the sun. material has one hell of a time getting AWAY from the sun's gravitational well).
I'd say yeesh, read the article before you spout off your ignorance, but hey, this is Slashdot.
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
Maybe you don't understand the how the SI system is applied in everday use. Grams are definitely used as a unit of weight(force) where I live and also used as a unit of mass.
No one goes around talking about "how much does it cost for 400 Newtons of Apples?"
I guess it is the weight at sea level on Earth.