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Chemical Haiku: Elements' Qualities in a Few Syllables

Frr pointed out this interesting approach to the periodic table: Haiku. This might even help you remember the elements.

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  1. Other kinds of poems might be better? by DeepDarkSky · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Poems rhyme and have a regular meter and that's what makes it easier for us to remember (songs with catchy, rhyming lyrics are the same). Haikus are not exactly easier to remember because they don't rhyme (although the fixed number of syllables help).

    I could be wrong, but I think it might be better to use another kind of poetry for this?

    1. Re:Other kinds of poems might be better? by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I understand the concept, but still I think it easier to remember the basic facts instead of some 20 word phrase.

    2. Re:Other kinds of poems might be better? by tkittel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, at the bottom of the page with the "Periodic table of Haiku", theres a link to the "Periodic table of Poetry" (http://superdeluxe.com/elemental/) which apparently served as inspiration for the Haiku one. But it doesnt seem to be complete though.

  2. Too late... by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 4, Funny

    I already memorized the Tom Leher song.

    --
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    Africus aut Europaeus?
    1. Re:Too late... by mysticgoat · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's the link:
      Tom Lehrer's song of The Elements

      There is a QuickTime recording of one of Tom's early performances of it, as well as the lyrics.

      Wow, that brings back memories.

    2. Re:Too late... by F�an�ro · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is a very good animated flash version of that song available here .

  3. that's gonna help? by larry+bagina · · Score: 4, Offtopic
    So instead of having to remember 100 elements, now you can make life easier and remember 100 elements + 100 elements * 17 syllables?

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    These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

  4. Haiku about aforementioned haikus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Come on WTF?
    Some of those are not haikus
    chemists are retards

    Hint: read heliums...

  5. I got one for you.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Science and Poems
    Merged in novel harmony
    But for what purpose?

  6. I still prefer Lehrer's approach... by Exantrius · · Score: 4, Informative
  7. I have always done that... by dracken · · Score: 2, Funny

    periodic table
    with rhythm of haiku
    I remember

    ducks ;)

  8. funny one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    This one for barium just cracks me up!

    the bitter cocktail
    of a colonoscopy --
    grin and barium

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  10. hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Element poems
    Until Slashdotted link.
    I am sad.

  11. What a waste of mental effort by The+Tyro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is anyone actually forced to memorize the periodic table these days? Talk about a pointless rote memorization task...

    I thought "learning" like this went the way of the dinosaurs in the 80's (of course, I teach on the university level, so I'm a bit removed from elementary education). Can any education types confirm that this kind of thing still goes on?

    I subscribe to the penguin theory of learning. After a certain point, your brain only holds so many recallable facts, just like an iceberg can hold only so many penguins. After that, for each new one you add, an old one must be shoved off (or at least relegated to subconscious long-term storage). I know memory is theoretically infinite, and that everything we learn is supposedly deep down in there somewhere, waiting for the right moment to be dredged up... but this kind of memorization is a waste of space on the iceberg.

    No way in sacrificing childhood memories for the periodic table... too easy to just go look up a copy.

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    Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
    1. Re:What a waste of mental effort by ramzak2k · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your argument sounds like

      "why waste precious use of mental resources by making students multiply and divide instead of handing them over calculaters ?"

      There arent many who subscribe to the iceberg theory that you have mentioned. Memory is just like any other muscle - train it , keep it sharp and it will help you. Knowing to memorize something like the periodic table after all involves knowing what exactly helps your brain remember things - for some it might be a rhyme like the haiku and for others it could be pictures for association . Either way, it helps develop a skill!

      --

      Siggy Say, Siggy Do
    2. Re:What a waste of mental effort by anon*127.0.0.1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only memorization I recall in connection with teh periodic table was being able to tell an Element from its symbol and vice-versa. Which is something that the haikus would be totally useless as a learning or teaching aid.

      Actually, reading the authors comments, I didn't see a mention anywhere that the table was intended to be a learning tool. I think it was just intended to be a geek/poet fun thing, and for that it's pretty good.

      --
      I am NOT a man!
      I am a free number!
    3. Re:What a waste of mental effort by arvindn · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Is anyone actually forced to memorize the periodic table these days? Talk about a pointless rote memorization task...

      I thought "learning" like this went the way of the dinosaurs in the 80's (of course, I teach on the university level, so I'm a bit removed from elementary education). Can any education types confirm that this kind of thing still goes on?

      I'm from India, and I can confirm that such pointless torture of students is the norm here :(

      I was forced to memorize the periodic table when I was in high school.

      Not only that, no calculators allowed until you are in university. Every time someone tries to change it, the luddites start screaming that use of calculators harms the students' powers of mental arithmetic and so on.

      In the case of the periodic table, though, I'm actually not sure it is completely pointless: the properties of the elements are to a great extent dependent on their position in the table. If you involuntarily "see" an element in its position in the table whenever it is talked about, then you get to correlate its properties to its position much better, and you understand it better.

      At least, that's the idea. The question is whether the purported gains are worth the effort.

      I subscribe to the penguin theory of learning. After a certain point, your brain only holds so many recallable facts, just like an iceberg can hold only so many penguins. After that, for each new one you add, an old one must be shoved off (or at least relegated to subconscious long-term storage). I know memory is theoretically infinite, and that everything we learn is supposedly deep down in there somewhere, waiting for the right moment to be dredged up... but this kind of memorization is a waste of space on the iceberg.
      I'm not sure about the waste of space part. Sure, brain space is finite. However, you remember a zillion important details about your everyday life. The more things you consciously memorize, the faster the useless things are going to get dumped out of your brain. And memorizing more actually makes you better at storing and recalling things. OTOH, this kind of memorization is a huge waste of time, and is hence unjustifiable.

      BTW, some people might _want_ to memorize completely pointless things by rote for whatever reason. For instance, I memorized 1000 digits of pi :-)

    4. Re:What a waste of mental effort by The+Tyro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is EXACTLY my argument. Understand the hard way... appreciate its nuances... pay homage to dogma... then do it the EASY way.

      Understanding how to do long division and multiplication is fine to help in mastering the concept... but doing all your daily math problems that way is a bit of a waste. If you are converting numbers between different base systems, you could do it by hand... but why? Use of a calculator is more efficient.

      I don't disagree that understanding the way the periodic table is structured is useful. I do think that rote memorizing the entire thing, along with all the atomic weights, etc is not necessary.

      In fact, I'd go so far as to say that it's busy work; something a lazy teacher might use to simply occupy students rather than teach them.

      --
      Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
  12. 56 Barium by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny

    "56 Barium
    the bitter cocktail
    of a colonoscopy --
    grin and barium"

    lesson for us all:
    nerds good at periodic,
    bad at humorous.

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  13. 5-7-5 by Captain+Beefheart · · Score: 2, Informative

    And it would be even better if 5-7-5 wasn't just a Western convenience.

  14. Personally.. by nukey56 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ..I'd rather wear one of these than read through that thing.

    Seriously though, memorizing the periodic table in school was far easier for me than things like the MLK speech, the pre-amble, the 'To be or not to be' soliloquy, and whatnot. Flashcards will do wonders for small bits of information that you can later forget and look up on tshirts.

  15. Comic genius by The+Tyro · · Score: 3


    I still think some of his finest work was embodied in the old classic poisoning pigeons in the park.

    I love that one...

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    Even if a man chops off your hand with a sword, you still have two nice, sharp bones to stick in his eyes.
    1. Re:Comic genius by Exantrius · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah... Up until recently (I think, he migh still be teaching, but I didn't see his name) he was a teacher of a core class at UCSC-- The first time I'd found out who sung poisoning pigeons in the park...

      *sigh* memories... /Ex

  16. If you want to get technical... by Cyno01 · · Score: 5, Informative

    None of these are true haikus. A true haiku has 5-7-5 sylables and must have a kigo or seasonal theme.

    --
    "Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
  17. Re:Haiku? by rev.felix · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, the 5-7-5 is often adhered to in Japanese haiku, but as I understand it, the idea of the haiku is to express some thought with a certain sort of spontenaity. It's more about method than form. The idea is to be contemplating some idea, and then simply write the haiku immediately without deliberating about how to fit it into some arbitrary form. My understanding is that the 5-7-5 myth is akin to "Columbus discovered america" that I also learned in 4th grade -- it's so oversimplified that it is no longer strictly true.

  18. some of the transuraniums are pretty good by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

    92 Uranium
    Fission or fusion?
    World leaders seek security
    As uranium time ticks away

    94 Plutonium
    burial markers
    destroyed by vandals
    unEarthing
    future plague
    legacy of death
    no prophet warnings

    95 Americium
    Fire's high-tech bane,
    radiation's toxic pain--
    Americium Dream

    96 Curium
    all the way to Mars
    before one human footstep
    curium spectrometer

    97 Berkelium
    just academic
    protesting commercial use
    feels it in his bones

    99 Einsteinium
    laughing with God
    eternal craps game
    betting GUTs
    ['If you want to give God a laugh, tell him your plans']
    ['God does not play at dice with the Universe']
    [Grand Unified Theory, a mystery he planned to solve]

    101 Mendelevium
    almost forgotten
    my Table lives after me
    a lesson on pride
    [The value of Mendeleev's table is that it predicted the gaps in the vertical rows, indicated the properties of the then-missing elements and suggested where to look for them in Nature. But all other knowledge of Mendeleev himself was nearly lost to time and indifference.]

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    intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
    1. Re:some of the transuraniums are pretty good by tkittel · · Score: 2, Funny

      This reminds me of the old discussions between Einstein and Bohr about the nature of Quantum Mechanics:

      Einstein: "God does not play dice."

      Einstein: "God is not malicious."

      Bohr: "Einstein, stop telling God what to do."

  19. A little chant... by Colz+Grigor · · Score: 5, Interesting
    My father, a chemical engineer, was forced to learn this chant in his days at RPI. He taught it to me during junior year chemistry in high school. It helped a lot in remembering valences. Heck, without it, I doubt I'd even remember what a valence was...

    HAgLiNaK HAgLiNaK
    CuBaCaFePbZnMg
    AlFeBiNiKr AlFeBiNiKr
    SiC SiC SiC

    Phoenetically:
    Haglinak, haglinak
    koobakafapibzinmig
    alfabiniker alfabiniker
    sick sick sick

    Yeah, so this isn't quite a haiku, but it got me by. Only other thing he taught me from his RPI days, the RPI Cheer:
    e to the x, dy/dx
    e to the x, dy
    cosine, secant, tangent, sine
    three point one four one five nine
    square root, cubed root, log of pi
    disintegrate 'em RPI!

    I guess what I really learned was that a bunch of nerds went to RPI.

    ::Colz Grigor

    1. Re:A little chant... by cygnusx · · Score: 2, Informative

      The full quote is usually translated into English as "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. If you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you".

    2. Re:A little chant... by Spunk · · Score: 3, Interesting
      the RPI Cheer:
      e to the x, dy/dx
      e to the x, dy
      cosine, secant, tangent, sine
      three point one four one five nine
      square root, cubed root, log of pi
      disintegrate 'em RPI!


      The RPI Cheer, you say? Interesting. My Alma Mater calls it the WPI Fight Song. And supposedly we stole it from MIT anyway :-p

      ...


      Holy crap. After searching google, quite a few other schools call it their own:

      Caltech, Georgia Tech, Rice, Purdue, Princeton, Carnegie Mellon, Rose-Hulman, Northwestern

    3. Re:A little chant... by Colz+Grigor · · Score: 2, Informative
      Well done. You were modded down, I see, probably for sounding argumentative, but the fact is, you're probably right. I'm not a chemist, so I'm susceptible to making mistakes like this one:

      Kr (Krypton) has a valence of 0. It's a noble gas.

      Cr (Cromium) has a valence of 3.

      So the rhyme I taught should probably be:
      HAgLiNaK, HAgLiNaK
      CuBaCaFePbZnMg
      AlFeBiNiCr, AlFeBiNiCr
      SiC SiC SiC

      Pronounced the same way, of course.

      I appreciate your catching my error. Thanks.

      ::Colz Grigor

  20. If you want to get more technical... by chiasmus1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The real Japanese haikus can have 5,7,5 syllables, but it is not the syllables that are counted. The Japanese count the letters, which I might add can sometimes be only part of a syllable.
    ryo is a combination of ri and yo, but makes one syllable. It would be counted as two letters. On the other hand, n can be by itself. As in something like the Karate Kids Daniel-san. Sa and n are different letters and count as two, but they form a single syllable.

  21. a little bit of propaganda? by NightHwk1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    20 Calcium
    Festering cows
    puss and antibiotics
    got milk, kids?

    Looks like they had a visitor from PETA...

  22. Are we that nerdy? by Tidal+Flame · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are we really that nerdy? Do we actually care about a new way to remember the periodic table? I hope not.

  23. Hmm haikus by Phattypants · · Score: 2, Informative

    00
    It shames me to say,
    but there are some truly bad
    Haikus on the page
    01
    The page we just read
    contained incorrect haikus
    too few syllables
    02
    Those that follow rules
    all have seven syllables
    surrounded by five
    03
    Count my syllables
    and you will understand it
    An acquired taste

    1. Re:Hmm haikus by taliver · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Now, IANAEMTG (I Am Not An English Major, Thank God), but we seem to be prety lax on this whole concept of Haiku.

      From the little I understand, part of the art of Haiku is to have the first two lines be completely unrelated, and the third tie them together.

      Bane of Chernobyl,
      First End of Life for our subs,
      Curse you, O Xenon!

      Also, I've often wondered how translatable 'syllable' to the original Japanese word are. I have absolutely zero knowledge of the language, but I'm certain an original Haiku would not translate with the same rhyme scheme we seem to imply.

      --

      I demand a million helicopters and a DOLLAR!

  24. 5 7 5 by PatientZero · · Score: 2, Insightful
    when writing haiku
    there's just one thing you must do
    that's five, seven, five

    But I haven't found one haiku on the website. :( Is there a joke I'm not getting? At first I thought the varrying syllables were an encoding of orbital numbers, weights, or something as a mnemonic, but I didn't see a pattern.

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  25. Sesame-Street-Alphabet-Song method by sanqui · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I remember Big Bird singing a song about an incredible word: Ab-ca-def-ghi-jk-l-m-nop-... you get the idea. The day before my Grade 11 Chemistry Exam I used the same method, and can still bring it back 10 years later:

    H-HeLi-BeB-C-NOF-Ne
    NaM-gAlSiPS-ClArKCa
    Sc-TiV-Cr-Mn-FeCoNi-CuZn

    Not the most attractive (or pronouncable) words, but it worked for me...

  26. Not Haiku... by krugdm · · Score: 3, Funny

    When Hydrogen Tech played Oxygen U,
    the game had just begun,
    when Hydrogen racked up two fast points,
    and Oxygen still had none.

    Then Oxygen scored a single goal,
    and thus it did remain,
    at Hydrogen 2 and Oxygen 1,
    called because of rain.

  27. And Then We Have The Element Song... by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium,
    And hydrogen and oxygen and nitrogen and rhenium,
    And nickel, neodymium, neptunium, germanium,
    And iron, americium, ruthenium, uranium,
    Europium, zirconium, lutetium, vanadium,
    And lanthanum and osmium and astatine and radium,
    And gold, protactinium and indium and gallium,
    And iodine and thorium and thulium and thallium.

    There's yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium,
    And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium,
    And strontium and silicon and silver and samarium,
    And bismuth, bromine, lithium, beryllium, and barium.

    There's holmium and helium and hafnium and erbium,
    And phosphorus and francium and fluorine and terbium,
    And manganese and mercury, molybdenum, magnesium,
    Dysprosium and scandium and cerium and cesium.
    And lead, praseodymium, and platinum, plutonium,
    Palladium, promethium, potassium, polonium,
    And tantalum, technetium, titanium, tellurium,
    And cadmium and calcium and chromium and curium.

    There's sulfur, californium, and fermium, berkelium,
    And also mendelevium, einsteinium, nobelium,
    And argon, krypton, neon, radon, xenon, zinc, and rhodium,
    And chlorine, carbon, cobalt, copper, tungsten, tin, and sodium.

    These are the only ones of which the news has come to Ha'vard,
    And there may be many others, but they haven't been discavard.

    Sung to the tune from Gilbert & Sullivan's "Major General Song" from "Pirates of Penzance", it is an amazingly perfect parody by Tom Lehrer

  28. oh dear by jazman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Disappointed
    Lithium rhyme
    not a haiku.

  29. Along those lines... by Tim+Macinta · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For further reading,
    Molecules With Silly Names
    is amusing too.

  30. Wrong! by limekiller4 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The helium entry reads (formatting theirs):

    lighter than dream
    flight between worlds

    Deja Thoris
    serial rescues in
    afternoon sun

    Haiku is a 5 sylable, 7 sylable, 5 sylable structure. Am I just daffy or does this not even come close?

    --
    My .02,
    Limekiller
  31. Memorizing the Periodic Table by Arrgh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In grade 8 we were asked to memorize the first twenty elements of the periodic table. Of course I put it off way too long and ended up cramming the night before the test. So I just made up a little mnemonic poem. Here it is in phonetic form:

    Hydrogen Helim Lithium Beryllium (that's as far as I got with the names)
    Bicknoffnee Namgal Sipsclarkca

    In symbolic form, that's H He Li Be B C N O F Ne Na Mg Al Si P S Cl Ar K Ca. Can't forget the damned thing after seventeen years.

  32. A note about poetry by panurge · · Score: 2, Funny
    Haiku = Japanese form not directly translatable into English. OK?
    5-7-5 = rigid format which cannot be directly related to original Haiku. Also OK?
    Therefore the question has to be, does an attempt to represent the feel of haiku have to follow what are in effect arbitrary rules? I suggest not.
    Spirit of haiku != programming language syntax.

    In fact, the idea of a short poem based around a single feeling can manifest itself in other ways. I happen to like the limeraiku:

    In Arabia,
    baby, a girl just gets dust
    in her labia
    which is a long way from haiku but would never have existed as a form had the haiku not existed.

    Some of the element "haiku" are mildly amusing, some are thoughful, some belong with the Sweet Singer of Michigan, but the attempt to do something with a form is surely worth doing if only to see if it works. This is a mannered exercise in writing a very short verse on a single subject. Arguing about 5-7-5 or whether it works as a menmonic misses the file system checking point. Extending the Housman Test, I'd suggest that whether or not these verses work AS POETRY depends on:

    • Does reading one produce a sudden emotion?
    • Does it suddenly stick in your mind?
    • Does it feel as if it sprang naturally from its subject?

    Enough rant. Back to work.

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  33. Great!, Can't wait for the... by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ebonics version

  34. I still like my Shatner haiku. by The+Human+Cow · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ex Star-Trekkie guy Now he plugs Priceline dot com He gets half-price rates. *bows*

    --
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  35. The obligatory chemisty poem.... that rhymes. by Nick+Driver · · Score: 4, Funny

    A mosquito was heard to complain
    That a chemist had poisoned his brain
    The cause of his sorrow
    Was para-dichloro-
    diphenyltrichloroethane

    Bwahahaha, that's funny, now everybody laugh :-|

  36. NOT HAIKU! by dnahelix · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm sorry to say, but most of them I read are NOT the correct form of Haiku. I believe it was posted earlier, but buried in a response, that the correct Haiku form is 5 syllables, 7 syllables, 5 syllables. The only one I can remember reading that is correct is Hydrogen.

    Even worse, most of them are nonsense freeform poetry that would certainly NOT help me remember the periodic table.

    Furu ikeya
    kawazu tobikomu
    mizu no oto

    A very old pond.
    Suddenly, in jumps a frog.
    The splash of water.

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  37. Everyone cheer now! by zlexiss · · Score: 2, Funny

    Give me an R!
    Give me a P!
    Give me an I!

    What's that spell?

    M-I-T Wan-na-be!

    (Yes, I was accepted to both schools mentioned, but attended neither, so no sour grapes accusations)