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Apple Releases Beta 3 of X11

maxentius writes "Apple says the just released beta of X11 adds: pseudocolor (8-bit) visual plane support; option to quit X11 without presenting warning dialog; Command-Q keyboard shortcut to quit X11; Command-, to bring up preferences dialog; keyboard mappings with dead keys fixed; linking against libGL no longer results with multiple definitions of glGetColorTableEXT; locked files left behind in /tmp no longer block non-admin users from starting X11; windows can be resized by user to any size and not be limited by the Dock's height; dragging remotely hosted windows no longer causes crash; hardware accelerated scrolling in 16 bit mode now works; X server no longer crashes if application tried to retrieve data back from the framebuffer using XGetImage; bug fixes and other feature enhancements."

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  1. I'd go with "a good sign of progression" myself by RalphBNumbers · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They include alot of big improvements in almost every beta release. I think it's a sign of Apple's good quality standards (well, that and an interest in avioding support issues) that they're still calling them betas, alot of companies release far buggier and less feature complete software as 1.0 versions.

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  2. Re:How much longer are we going to get betas? by birdman666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I personally think it's nice that they are releasing betas to the general public for these projects. People have been playing around with betas of apple software for years, I'm sure multiple people who are reading this have installed 'Rhapsody'. So instead of making people who prefer to be on the bleeding edge of the MacOS obtain their beta products using methods not exactly 'legal', they just let us have them with the warning that they aren't quite perfect yet. For some reason, Apple people just can't wait for new products to come out. I appreciate Apple giving us our crack now, rather than making us wait for it.

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  3. Re:Quit without warning: how? by CableModemSniper · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, if you would read their FAQ, you might've noticed this:
    Added an option to quit X11 without presenting warning dialog : "defaults write com.apple.x11 no_quit_alert true". See man page for Xquartz for more details.

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  4. Re:How much longer are we going to get betas? by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Funny

    iSync 1.0 has been out for months.

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  5. Re:Quit without warning: how? by aberkvam · · Score: 4, Informative
    RTFM.

    From the FAQ:

    Added an option to quit X11 without presenting warning dialog : " defaults write com.apple.x11 no_quit_alert true". See man page for Xquartz for more details.
    And from the man XQuartz page:
    CUSTOMIZATION

    Xquartz can also be customized using the defaults(1) com-
    mand. The available options are:

    defaults write com.apple.x11 enable_fake_buttons true
    Equivalent to the -fakebuttons command line
    option.

    defaults write com.apple.x11 fake_button2 modifiers
    Equivalent to the -fakemouse2 option.

    defaults write com.apple.x11 fake_button3 modifiers
    Equivalent to the -fakemouse3 option.

    defaults write com.apple.x11 keymap_file filename
    Equivalent to the -keymap option.

    defaults write com.apple.x11 no_quit_alert true
    Disables the alert dialog displayed when attempt-
    ing to quit X11.

    defaults write com.apple.x11 depth depth
    Equivalent to the -depth option.

  6. What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have by phpsocialclub · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What are some cool/usefull X11 apps that I can install on a OS X 10.2 machine

    I have already used fink to install Bluefish (a html editor), XMMS (mp3 player), and tkcvs (cvs client).

    and some games, scorched earth, etc.

    anyone have any good ideas of other stuff that I should be running on my laptop or desktop g4s

    1. Re:What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have by capmilk · · Score: 4, Funny

      xbill, xtank and xgalaga are pretty cool. I mean, you wanted "killer" apps. ;)

    2. Re:What are the "killer" X11 apps I should have by eMilkshake · · Score: 4, Informative
      Well, grab yourself some fink and then fink commander and look for all those gnome things you used to love.

      But, you'll definately want to grab LyX. Then, wonder off and get TeXShop and start churning out some TeX to amaze your friends with your superfine equation-writing sk1llz.

  7. Cool! by PrimeWaveZ · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can feel the difference in xMahJongg. Now if I could only get my ASCII porn stuff to look better under hardware acceleration, I'd be set. Oh well, something for the next update. Hehehe.

  8. Re:How much longer are we going to get betas? by Luxviaest · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not only do I agree with your comment, I also happen to think that they are releasing them to the public so that those people who happen to be within the programming community can check out the programs and help Apple debug them far more quickly then they could on their own. Another factor which comes into play is the concept of bragging rights that come with the release of say a new X11 client, or a brand new web browser.

    Just my 2 cents...

  9. Re:How much longer are we going to get betas? by EddydaSquige · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think that apple released a beta of iSync not because it wanted to, but because palms support for OS X was so lacking and that was effecting consumer opinion of the Mac.

    As far as Safari and X11 go, these are built upon open source, and while they don't have to realease to the public for debugging, it is the norm.

  10. Full-screen mode? by semanticgap · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I tried Apple's X11, but couldn't figure out how to run it full-screen with WindowMaker. (I wouldn't need this had Apple provided virtual desktops that could be switched as fast as WindowMaker does it).... So I gave up and went back to XDarwin.