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Strike on Iraq
According to CNN and various other news sources, Iraq is now under attack by
the US. Here is a link to the current story running at CNN right now, but there's really not much except that it has started. CT Cruise missiles launched against "Target of Opportunity". The full assault has not begun. CT The attack was specifically intended to take out Saddam. CT Saddam appeared on iraqi TV to condemn the US, and Iraqi missiles have been fired at Kuwait.
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Michael Moore is a clueless ass anyway. Virtually everything he says in the letter is either wrong or a lie, but that's nothing new. Truth has always been the first casualty where Michael Moore is concerned.
He's just pissed because he screwed up his London stage show by being a jerk.
Congratulations you've let a retarded reneck start World War III. I sure do hope that thinking of all the innocent people that you're killing makes you feel safe and free tonight.
Agreed,
The Office of the President of the United States of America merits respect, whatever an individual's opinion of the holder of that office might be. Michael Moore can fuck himself sideways with a bandsaw. after that first statement, I wrote off anything he said or will say.
I didn't LIKE Clinton, but I was as harsh to the people that tried to tear him down WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE as I will be to Bush bashers now. Save it for the fucking election, people. NOTHING you do between now and then will do anything but erode the respect others have for you, or in the extreme cases like the moron with the tractor in DC this week, get you thrown in federal prison.
Common sense. It's a lost skill, and one Michael Moore has taken leave of.
The hell with him.
"Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
"For keeps", eh?
So what, specifically, is "Bush's War" going to do differently from the Gulf War that's going to suddenly eliminate the hatred of the United States in the country? You can't commit genocide in Iraq. You knock off the leader and install your own puppet government, you just produce a lot more hatred (think how we'd feel if China did that to us). So now you've killed one man that's fairly representative of national feeling in Iraq. We've spent lots of money profiling and monitoring him, so we throw out all that work, and we now have the same number of people who hate the US.
Saddam the man is not dangerous. If Iraqis disagreed about the United States, he wouldn't be an issue. Saddam is only nasty because the Iraqi people feel the same way he does about the United States. That being said, killing Saddam will, in my estimation, do nothing but produce more anti-US sentiment.
May we never see th
Oh yes, I'm sure the japanese were happy that we melted so many people just so they could get our help in being a huge economic power.
How much money does it take to equal one life? Would you kill 1 innocent of another country to out do the US in a given market? How about 10 innocents? hundreds, thousands?
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Free your mind.
I'm disgusted at the sheer quantity of ignorant liberal drivel that's being spouted by the /. community today.
Just the way of Slashdot. Hate Microsoft, hate Bush, hate meat, love Gore or Nader - fit right in. Don't agree with these points and get gang-raped by the inmates.
I have to agree. Many shortsighted people in these boards.
No one quite understands that removing Hussein from power is the first step towards a Palestinian state. Hussein has openly funded the efforts of Hamas, the most feared terrorist group in the world (al-Qaeda is a mom & pop shop compared to Hamas), and other Palestinian terrorist groups. Removing that source of funding and forcing Israel into recognizing a Palestinian state by the end of the year is the goal of this war.
Also, removing a dictator who uses the people of his country as sheep is necessary in every country it exists. Sometimes, it can be done economically or diplomatically. In Iraq's case, military force is needed to remove him.
I'm cuban. See the damage a lone man has done to Cuba, which used to be a rich and thriving nation...the Monaco of the West. It's now barely a third world country. One man did that. He destroyed my homeland and made it impossible for me to ever know what it was like. The Cuba of my parents' and grandparents' youths is dead. Think about that...
None of you will ever understand that feeling unless you've lived it. There is no way you can attempt to understand it. The people in eastern Europe who were choked by the grip of Communism understand...it is why they support us. The Iraqis living here in the United States understand, and they support this too.
This is a moral and just war. It is the duty of the United States to defend a single person's freedom to pursue the rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And any leader who openly denies their people those basic human rights is a monster who needs to leave power.
War has come, and no one wants it...it's a terrible thing.
But it does not come lightly. We tried for twelve years to get Hussein to concede to international opinion and law, and he did not. Eighteen UN resolutions were passed and ignored. We have no choice. Hussein has brought this on himself. We are not at fault...we are the ones who are right.
Yeah, it involves whether or not we were invited in, whether or not we depose the leaders of the occupied country, and whether or not we allow its people to elect its leaders in a fair and open election, with free speech... you could also include whether or not we cut a fair and reasonable deal with that country's people for extracting their natural resources.
I wont even call your comment laughable. It's just... brainwashed.
You never went out of your way to learn a thing about this. You just lay back and opened your mouth. Then you pop up here and imagine you have any idea.
Now, argue. Amuse me. You're in for a fun one. I have a good background on the issues. I'll really enjoy taking you apart.
I think we'll start with the Shah of Iran. You know, one of the more notorious times we saddled a country in that region with a puppet regime.
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The first bombs of the war are dropped with the specific intent of removing the dictator while keeping civilian casualties to an extreme minimum. Are you leftists still claiming that the US wishes to cause injury or death to Iraqi men/women/children?
that all you pencil necks who are clammoring for a spot to come to the U.S. just stay where you are. We don't need you. The rest who are already in the U.S., if you don't like it, leave.
While Saddam gassed thousands of his own citizens, where were you then? While Saddam infected thousands of his own citizens with biologicals, where were you then? When Osama bombs and destroys and kills and mutilates, you rejoice. Your words are hollow and your thinking is skewed. You are without honor, you are without courage. Because honor and courage is what it takes to do the right thing, no matter how painful.
I swear, jealousy of a countries success because your own neanderthalic country is run by despots and tyrants is pretty damn st00pid. If you had the courage, you'd change your own damn country and would have no need to worry about MINE... damn tourists.
"It is essential that justice be done
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Since Vietnam, American news will never see the true stomach turning results of war. Broadcast standards see to this.
Other news organizations in other parts of the world do show it.
I think that speaks volumes in terms of public opinion.
Cheers,
-b
Twelve years ago Saddam was not just Iraq's problem but also Kuwait's. He has been a problem to human rights all over the region and in the future may be a threat to the world. Do you dispute this? The international community didn't and doesn't now. They tried diplomatic pressure and other means with America alongside. It didn't work. Somtimes the policies of the world must be backed up with force, even when others are reluctant to do so. Yes that means terrible things might happen.
My hope is that someday you will grow up. Your opinion (which I think is ignorant) may still be the same, which is fine, but perhaps then you'll be able to make a mature argument to support it. Don't expect any more replies from me until you do.
I can't believe how many of you anti-war idiots have been sold the bullshit from the left. Don't accidentally kill the Iraqi people, but go ahead and kill unborn American babies. Don't worry about the fact that for the past 20 years that Saddam has been killing untold scores of people that speak out against him.
/. readers have access to CIA, FBI, NSA, etc reports; therefore, you guys must know EXACTLY what's going on in the world.
Or the bullshit of how the US is responsible for killing thousands of poor Iraqis. Umm none of this would have happened if Saddam wasn't invading other countries and was a civil human being.
Listen to the actors... yeah.. they get paid $10M to lie each film, makes a bunch of sense. Some how they are soooooooo much smarter than us because their agents are able to rip off the world through ticket sales to their stupid ass movie. If they are so fucking moral, then why do they demand $10M a film, when they know that the average working American only brings home 38k a year? Do you really need $10M to lie?
Damn, I forgot, the majority of
Shit, I forgot about the fact that Clinton sent cruise missles into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Serbia.. but the leftists didn't bitch then. It's popular to hate the conservative point of view.
If we all just hold hands and kiss, then maybe the ravages of the world will all just go away. Yeah, peace and love man...
You are all fucking wimps. Keep your shitty little tech job and thank the leaders of this great country that protect you, no matter what the cost. It's the same people that protect you every day from having your wife raped in your own house, or your kids tortured just so you profess how you are guilty against the regime.
You know how many tech job there are in Iraq? Not many, since all access to media and internet is controlled.
You people make me sick.
France, due to it's own trade agenda, they ruined the diplomatic process. They voted for 1441 which clearly stated that if Iraq had any items that they didn't declare to start with, then they were in material breach. Chem/Bio warheads, rockets, drones. all of these items were not declared, and then found. MATERIAL BREACH YOU NUMBSKULLS! But no, France had to keep dragging the facts down into the red tape of process.
Who in the fuck actually thinks that 300 inspectors are going to find a 2 liter bottle of anthrax in a country the size of CALIFORNIA? Are you kidding me? I could hide that in my house for eons and no one would ever know. Bury it in the sand.. anything.. sheeshh.
Fuck France.
I don't think it's so obvious. First, in this case, global opinion is against a war, not against dealing with Iraq. Second, there are international legal grounds for this war. I'm glad you aren't making the Hitler-Bush comparison, but I have seen it done thousands of times in the past six months. Those people don't take several things into account. Your last statement would read better as, "No, I'm not trying to claim Bush is anything like A. Hitler, I just loaned your own words to say courage combined with no respect for others and a careless regard for international law and a bad track record and is mentally unstable sometimes lead to very bad things happening."