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Apple to Announce new Mac OS X version in June
swiert writes "Apple has announced that the WWDC conference has been rescheduled in order to present the new version of Mac OS X, codenamed "Panther". Unfortunately, Apple haven't given any details about what to expect from Panther, but after Jaguar this looks promising."
The real question isn't "why does this article have an AMD logo". The real question is "why do people post a question when it has already been posted by others?"
its obvious they will charge for it, it is not manditory you purchase it. Your laptop will have the same functionality (or perhaps more given the 10.2.X updates) when you purchased it-- if you want to add value you can choose to upgrade your system- otherwise all the original functionality will still be there for you.
Microsoft did not give out copies of Windows XP to people who bought computers with Windows 98.
I hope apple does a better job in creating the pre-release hype.
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You're joking, right? Every Macworld, Steve is like the guy holding the porkchop, and the press is the dog that hasn't eaten in a week. Apple easily gets as much press as MS, often more. Their products(not just the OS) are so good that they're regularly discussed/reviewed in the papers/mags. When was the last time you read a review of a Microsoft software product, or a news item that the latest version of Streets & trips is out?
i have been hearing about panther here and there, but apple needs to have a whole campaign, like MS did for XP.
Why? MS advertises to convince people it's necessary or there's some magical, wonderful thing that'll make their lives better/more productive, when it's just the same bullshit with a different, prettier, slower, opens-in-a-different-way-to-make-the-training-com
Apple just puts in things people want/will care about, and people see the value, and buy the software. There's usually a lot of cool stuff to warrant the upgrade- for example, Jaguar introduced Quartz Extreme, which people couldn't stop raving about.
There's an old rule of thumb- the quality of the product is inversely related to the amount of money spent advertising it. If the product's good enough, its success doesn't depend on advertising, because people KNOW it's good and tell OTHER people it's good.
Unfortunately, this story is 100% content-free. There aren't even any good rumors about Panther. I can think of only two explanations for this: either Panther is going to be remarkably free of anything new and interesting, or Panther is going to be so amazingly ultra-mind-bogglingly spectacular that Apple relocated the development team to some secret Iraqi WMD labs to protect the secrecy of the project.
If 10.3 is as big a step forward as 10.1 and 10.2 were, I will be glad to pay for it. Heck, I'll be thrilled to pay for it!
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Here is a link to rumors.com. WHere do you see anything apple or computer related?
Another website maybe?
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Considering that a June preview indicates a fall release (remember that Jag had an early summer preview and a fall release) it will have been a year since the last paid release when this comes out. That would seem to indicate this will be a paid release assuming one paid release per year.
Not that I am saying you are wrong, it is just that I'll believe it when I see it.
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I hope not; it has more enemies than Aqua has had, and would represent an awfully rapid departure from Aqua, which Apple clearly used to love.
Support for 64-Bit architecture
This would be nice; it's truly OS-related and is likely to happen sooner or later.
QuickTime 6.5
Apple has historically shipped QT as its own product (and clearly as its own source of revenue). It might get rolled up with the shipping version of 10.3, but it won't be a major feature since you'll almost certainly be able to get it elsewhere.
iChat 2.0 with videoconferencing capabilities
Granted, OS X as a whole is still a new beastie, so Lord only knows the directions in which Apple will go, but I have a hard time believing that Apple will expect us to drop $120 or so for a bunch of updated applications (particularly when they could potentially sell a suite of updates as its own product a la iLife). Again, this might ship with 10.3. It might even be only supported under 10.3, but is not compelling enough to make 10.3 necessary. Still, H.323 support (or support for whatever its heir apparent is) within the OS is SORELY lacking, according to my videoconferencing friends, so I know they'll gleefully welcome this.
Final Safari release 1.0 GM
Same as above, but I really think this will probably be available as a standalone, free download.
Updated iApps (possible inclusion of iWorks?)
You should be able to anticipate my answer here. iWorks would change things, but I bet if it ends up really happening, it will be like Keynote, a standalone product. Or maybe I should have likened it to AppleWorks....
Enhanced Dock features
Again, not compelling.
Overall system speed enhancements
Something to be excited about, enough for some people to finally make the jump, but not enough on its own. Remember, since adoption of OS X has been pretty high, 10.3 has to appeal at least as much to people who are already running OS X as it does to people who have not upgraded from 9 or lower-- and also to people running Windows.
Optimized for the new systems (AMD, Itanium or PPC970??)
This would present a pretty radical departure and is one sort of exciting "event" that I have to assume Apple have plenty of with 10.3, but again, isn't compelling to people already owning Macs or already running Mac OS X 10.2.
I have to expect, simply from paying attention to the past:
1. several "new" GUI changes, perhaps re-inclusion of OS 7-9 features, such as labels, some maybe from other OSes, some we haven't seen before.
2. some application or GUI features the likes of which just about no one has anticipated. Just like Jack Kirby did, Apple is always forcing you to expect the unexpected.
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Why is it that there is always a few vocal whiners ready to spout off every time Apple wants to sell an OS upgrade? What is it that's so hard to understand about the idea that they sell software?
Apple's OS development cycle involves one paid rev per year and one or more incrimental upgrades that are free. It's really not that hard to get. And nobody is forcing you to buy it, either.
Jesus, there's plenty of legitimate reasons to knock a wierd company like Apple. Try to bring up one of them next time you take a swipe at them.
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Please.
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Windows 95 to Windows 98 to Windows ME
They each cost a lot to upgrade from one to the other.
Ok, so maybe Windows 98 to Windows XP would be like comparing OS 9 to OS X. But Windows 95 to Windows 98 would be OS X 10.1 to 10.2
Here's to hoping 10.3 Windows ME
As a rock-in-roll Physicist once said, No matter where you go, there you are.
They charge for it, and people are willing to pay for it. That's not robery it's good business.
If you don't like it, don't buy it. But don't slam a company (Apple or Microsoft) just because they don't charge the prices you think they should.
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Of course the naming scheme should be of a feline nature. Cat people are, of course, ;-) smarter than dog people (and smell better) so of course they would want to use a mac. Its a smart choice.
Of course by the time I can afford to buy my ibook they'll probably have run out of cool wildcats and I'll get OSX-Scrawny Alley Cat
I've experiments to run, there is research to be done on the people who are still alive.
Like a lot of people have speculated, I expect that Safari 1.0 will be part of 10.3. However I think the bigger improvement will be in the release of WebCore along with integrated apps. A fast HTML renderer that is available to all apps will be quite useful. Not to mention that it would better the performance of any apple app that displays HTML, like Mail, Sherlock, Help Viewer (please!!!), Project Builder, etc ...
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Unfortunately, Apple haven't given any details about what to expect from Panther, but after Jaguar this looks promising.
Why does it look promising, then ?
Let's wait until it is available, then decide if it's worth paying the update cost.
OK, Jaguar is cool, but I own an iBook and I am just afraid OSX++ could require too much resources from my white DA.
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Seriusly I bought my ibook and i'm thinking that my next laptop will be a IBM with XP.
Thinkpad's are really nice, I love the keyboard especially. But then I love my iBook too (I've got both). But I prefer to run OpenBSD on both of my notebooks.
I think it would be nice if Apple re-arranged their version numbering so that "major chargable upgrades" came once every 2 years and everything in between was a free online update. I was about to purchase Jaguar about 2 weeks ago, I'm glad the local Apple dealer was shut that Sunday, because this news would have annoyed me.
But, just nice, they can charge if they want and we are free to decide whether we will buy into it or not. MS is hardly any less money hungry.
I think that Apple's OS just keeps getting better and better as time goes on, which I can't really say about MS OS'. I'm sticking with Windows 2000 Pro for my Wintel needs, probably until they completely end-of-life it, at which time I'll hopefully have been able to rid myself of any need of Windows for good.
War crimes, torture, lies, illegal spying... Would someone give Bush a blowjob, already, so he can be impeached?
Mac is the last major platform without Java3D. So sad. Any thoughts about when this might change...
[1] Or "soccer" for the non-UK majority.
You're ignoring what Schiller said. Your logic was that they're sorta alternating.
/think/ that's how it went. At any rate, do you see a rough pattern here? Apple have released one "reference release" (paid upgrade) each year, with the exception of 2000, since System 7.5.
But look at the release dates of the major Mac OS releases (working backwards):
10.2 - 2002 - Paid
10.0 - 2001 - Paid
There was no major OS release in 2000, save for the OS X Public Beta, free except for $20 shipping.
Mac OS 9 - 1999 - Paid
Mac OS 8.5 - 1998 - Paid
Mac OS 8 - 1997 - Paid
Mac OS 7.6 - 1996 - Paid
Mac OS 7.5 - 1995 - Paid
At least, I
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What I *really* hope the anounce is support for AMD's x86-64 architecture.
;-)
It's been said many times already, so I'll just make it short: If Apple were to support the x86 architecture, it would only be on Apple hardware. For the near future (as long as Apple makes its money from hardware sales), you can forget about running OS X on your x86 box.
Finally, please, PLEASE Steve, simple admit that a two-button mouse (along with scroll well which also serves as a third button) is simply better than a single-button Apple mouse, and get on with it!!! A one-button mouse SUCKS!!!
I agree, which is why I use a three button/scroll wheel mouse on all my Macs. It really doesn't cost that much, and I don't have to spend any energy frustrated about what Steve Jobs thinks.
Windows XP = Windows NT 5.1
You're not paying for services packs (updates) but you sure are paying for upgrades. Microsoft isn't any better at all, don't be lured by the fact they changed product name!
You don't understand. Just because MS has released WinXP (NT5.1), doesn't mean, they do no longer provide any updates for it.
MS still releases patches for Win2k (NT5.0). OTOH Apple does not even release any security fixes for OSX 10.1 any longer.
THAT'S the difference.
Your list is accurate if you go according to what apple put in a box and sold. but if you go by what apple made people pay for, it goes more like this...
6.0 - Paid (1988)
7.0 - Paid (1991)
7.1 - free
7.5 - free (1995)
7.6 - free
8.0 - Paid (1997)
8.1 - free
8.5 - free
8.6 - free
9.0 - Paid (1999)
9.1 - free
9.2 - free
10.0 - Paid (2001)
10.1 - free
10.2 - Paid (2002)
Apple _has_ made the decision to start using its operating system as a source of revenue, rather than something solely to support their hardware sales. I don't mind it as long as they continue to make updates that i want.
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