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Have You Really Read Your ISP's TOS?
NewtonsLaw writes "XTRA, New Zealand's largest ISP is in the process of losing customers in droves after it announced its new Terms of Service which seek to claim rights over customers intellectual property (see the Slashdot discussion). Now, if that wasn't enough, Aardvark Daily reports that the ISP is also banning its users from saying bad things (anything 'detrimental to our reputation or to our brand') about it. I wonder how many slashdotters have actually read their own ISPs' terms of service in detail? Is this type of IP-grab and clampdown on free speech is unique to Xtra or is it slowly pervading the whole industry, right across the globe?" Read on for Xtra's amendments to the original IP-grab terms, though.
Reader THX1138 points out that "After the very recent story on Xtra (New Zealand's version of AOL) they changed the IP section to include 'Xtra does not claim ownership of any content or material you provide or make available through the Services. However...' at the start and 'in each case for the limited purposes for which you provided or made the Customer Materials available or to enable us and our suppliers to provide the Services.' at the end."
...they can have my slashdot posts!
:p
Nothing intellectual there, really
What's your GCNSEQNO?
I'd say you have a problem with the English language though.
I haven't read my TOS yet, but I can tell you that my ISP is a total piece of sh
Or whatever the equivalent thing that New Zealand does to people they don't like.
They get sent to Australia.
Around the time that America decided that you should all be free. For their version of free, of course.
Thanks America, our benevolent overlord dictators of the world!
...if terrorist sites or kiddie porn appear on their network, their CEO and board of directors will be habeas corpused off to Cuba? Or whatever the equivalent thing that New Zealand does to people they don't like.
We believe in very harsh punishments for such things...I believe traditionally we just send them to Australia.
Jedidiah
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I've always wondered though, how can companies actually make clicking on an "OK" button legally binding? No witnesses, no signature, nothing. Although the best one I ever saw was "By opening this package, you agree to the terms and conditions contained within."
I didn't read the TOS, but I used it as toilet paper.
Note to self: get smarter troll to guard door.
You're sure it doesn't say "\/\/3 0\/\/|\|Z04Z j00! \/\/oo+!!!!!!11!1!!"? There's a surprising number of ways to translate that into legalese, you know...
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My mom's ISP, RCN, does control the content that flows over "their" wires... I quote from the Internet Access Agreement:
(m) Scrolling. You agree not to cause the screen to "scroll" faster than other subscribers or users are able to type to it, or any action to a similar disruptive effect on or through the Access Service.
Usually I just skim through the TOS to find my unlimited download and upload limits and find crazy lines like the one above.
-dk
benevolent overlord dictators of the world
You write that as if its an insult.
In fact, some I'm downright thrilled with.
Like ones that come in text boxes that you can edit.
Such as the agreement with ATI I cheerfully clicked my agreement to. When I was done with it, it said "In appreciation for downloading this driver suite, ATI inc. will send me one (1) riding pony in good health and standing in the equine community."
They've since changed the format, but I still don't have my pony.
High-speed Road Trip (18.000KPH)
Yeah, that must be a harsh punishment indeed, depriving them of their sheep.
So what have the Aussies done recently to deserve such harsh punishment as telco executives? :).
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XTRA enforces their policies by setting the evil bit on TCP packets it deems inappropriate. Hackers are circumventing this by using the carrier pigeon protocol
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Thanks America, our benevolent overlord dictators of the world!
you're just jealous because we get to call our country's leader "Mr Hegemon."