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606 Takes To film Rube Goldberg-like car ad

wagdog writes "Many have no doubt seen the Rube Goldberg-like multistep mechanical chain reaction TV advert for the Honda Accord. Many thought this was yet another example of the pervasive use of computer graphics in TV commercials. Amazingly the entire delicate set up of car parts that constitute the facinating sequence is almost 100% realtime live action requiring an astounding 606 takes to get right . There is one cheat however -- can you spot it?"

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  1. The expected result... by Xaroth · · Score: 5, Funny

    From 606 to 404 in under 6 seconds.

  2. Direct link... by dschuetz · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...suitable for mirroring: http://www.honda.co.uk/newcars/300k.swf (4.1 meg or so)

    ('course, it's slashdotted now.)

    1. Re:Direct link... by Cloud+9 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Shouldn't Slashdot have a rule where they contact a company before talking about something on their website, especially if it's a whopping great download?

      How much longer do you want story submissions to take? At any rate, they've already this question in the FAQ. You have read it, right?

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    2. Re:Direct link... by paulcammish · · Score: 5, Informative
      Ive uploaded a Mirror here for a Quicktime version...

      Ah well, never liked my server anyways...

  3. For comparison by ih8apple · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The record number of takes for a single shot in any movie is 125 in The Shining.

    1. Re:For comparison by JDevers · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Stanley Kubrick ordered more than 120 takes in the scene where the camera simply slowly zooms in on Scatman Crothers as he "shines" in his bedroom. Kubrick originally wanted approximately 70 takes of the scene where Hollaran gets killed by Jack Torrance, but Jack Nicholson talked Kubrick into going easy on the 70 year-old Crothers and stopping after 40. At one point during the filming, Crothers became so exasperated with Kubrick's notorious, compulsive style of excessive retakes that he broke down and cried, asking "What do you want, Mr. Kubrick?" This is from http://us.imdb.com/Trivia?0081505 from another who loves The Shining =)

  4. New world record? by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know that as of 2001, the world's record for the most retakes of a particular scene was held by Stanley Kubrick -- 160 retakes of one scene in The Shining. If car commercial film retakes count for this as well, these guys have set a new world record by far!

  5. This a blatant ripoff of: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    "the Way Things Go" by Peter Fischli and David Weiss


    here's a link to the most excellent kinetic art video:


    http://www.firstrunfeatures.com/vid/thewaythings go .html



    of course, if they hired the pair to do the stuff for the Commercial, then.....it's not a ripoff. (hope they made some bucks)

  6. Re:how'd they do that? by wiggys · · Score: 3, Informative

    Err, if you RTFA you'd know the tyres had weights in them.

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  7. Re:Impressive Goldberg link... by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not so impressive. It's full of holes.

    I searched throughout the entire Rube Goldberg site and couldn't find ONE SINGLE MENTION of his more-famous daughter, Whoopi.

  8. Re:Honda Accord is the Cadillac of Autos by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny
    It has a 3.0L V6 with 240hp and 212lb torque.

    Man, how things have changed. I can still remember when Cadillacs had a 500 cu. in. (over 8L) displacement engine with enough weight and torque to affect the earths spin if you stomped on the gas. Then again, recalling the old ways of the Detroit assemply lines which built these things, Rube Goldberg would have been proud.

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  9. Re:online video? by dschuetz · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have it loaded and in my browser, but I'm unsure on how to extract the video segment so I can torrent it up :)

    It's a short (18k) flash file that then loads another flash file (called 300k.swf) that's about 4.1 meg. So, if you can figure out where your 300k.swf file is in the cache, you should be in business.

    (I used flasm (http://flasm.sourceforge.net/) to disassemble the original .swf file to figure this out, btw...)

  10. Re:Honda Accord is the Cadillac of Autos by milkmandan9 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hmm. I thought the real Cadillac of autos was the ... err ... what's it called? Cadisomething.

  11. Rube Goldberg? by chrisseaton · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wasn't familiar with Rube Goldberg's work before this, but it looks like a carbon copy of Heath Robinson's style. Anyone agree with me here?

    1. Re:Rube Goldberg? by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Informative

      Anyone agree with me here?

      I think everyone does. Apart from the fact that 90% of Americans have never heard of Heath Robinson, and 90% of Brits have never heard of Rube Goldberg. They certainly fill exactly the same niche in society both for the drawings, and for providing a terms used for an expresion to refer to a bizarre ad-hoc invention.

    2. Re:Rube Goldberg? by smallpaul · · Score: 3, Informative

      According to Google, Rube Goldberg was inspired by Heath Robinson. Rube was American and Heath British.

  12. Mirror by Trogdor · · Score: 5, Informative
  13. MOV download by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a link to those who'd like a non-slashdotted .mov download of the ad.

    Thanks be to widepipe.org for the link...

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    1. Re:MOV download by Bohiti · · Score: 5, Funny

      My company's WebSense filtering blocked this from me for "Adult Content". Whoa Nelly, Honda is apparently attempting to change their image.

  14. The cost of consumer items by beaverfever · · Score: 4, Insightful

    £750,000 for an ad which will run for 7 1/2 weeks - I'm sure it's not unusual; just don't forget what you're really paying for when you buy a car - a big chunk of the cost of autos is just covering advertising - it's the same with many consumer items.

    I wonder what the math is on the idea of lowering advertising costs to bring down end price of the product which might increase sales, balanced against the decreased exposure which might decrease sales. As long as people are willing to pay what they are currently paying, I guess it doesn't matter.

  15. Can I Spot It? by telstar · · Score: 5, Funny
    "There is one cheat however -- can you spot it?"
    • Actually ... Yes, I can ... since the damn slashdotted movie is playing at about 1fps right now.
  16. BitTorrent Mirror by SeanTobin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Click here all you bittorrent users

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  17. I'm peeved now by 0x00000dcc · · Score: 5, Funny
    I actually sat through that entire commercial, as cool as it was, thinking there was going to be some killer car at the end. Rather, it was a friggen' station wagon

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    1. Re:I'm peeved now by 0x00000dcc · · Score: 5, Funny
      I actually sat through that entire commercial, as cool as it was, thinking there was going to be some killer car at the end. Rather, it was a friggen' station wagon
      1. Was sex a disappointment for you the first time, too? ;)
        1. Yes, becuase it was in a friggen' station wagon
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  18. Re:Goldberg and Heath Robinson by ianscot · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Sort of, but not a carbon copy exactly. Rube Goldberg is seen by some people as a sort of "American version" of Robinson -- news programs here might say "Our tax system is a Rube Golbergian mess" where those in the U.K. would invoke Robinson. They were contemporaries, but Goldberg lived longer.

    I'd say Robinson was more about social commentary than Goldberg. His typical drawing would be an overall look at a machine, sure, but there was usually something dilapidated about the workings of it, and there was something sort of comic-tragic about the people in the figure -- they're seriously working to maintain the thing despite its ludicrously overcomplex design, and it's running down despite them.

    Goldberg is more of an engineer's taste -- he was an engineer to start with, wasn't he? -- and the idea is really to play with the idea of the machine to make it as ridiculous as possible. His machines aren't attended by a bunch of sadly intent factory workers, they're what my Great Uncle would call "flights of fancy." You hear about contests in the U.S., for fun, to build elaborate "Rube Goldberg contraptions" to perform simple actions.

    Heath Robinson would have appreciated Metropolis more when it came out.

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  19. One Cheat? by A+Swing+Dancing+Dork · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is only one cheat. And he lives with strongbad. The Cheat!

  20. Swiss Rube Goldberg video 'Der Lauf Die Dinge' by MemexMutex · · Score: 5, Informative

    By far the most elaborate & amazing Rube-Goldberg apparatus ever filmed is "Die Lauf Der Dinge (The Way Things Go) by Swiss artists Peter Fischli and David Weiss (http://www.frif.com/cat97/t-z/the_way_.html).

    It includes not only complex mechanical agglomerations but all sorts of homemade pyrotechnical concoctions. These guys really new their inorganic chemistry.

    Fischli & Weiss filled a warehouse with dozens & dozens these devices linked in series with the output of one element trigger the next one in the pipeline. The camera just keeps walking down the line following the action. You get the feeling the devices are set up in a large circle inside a huge empty building with the camera in the middle slowly turning to follow the train of activity.

    The audio is quite intense, as well. Each device has its own very distinctive sound, which helps to make the video quite animated.

    Most incredible of all, they appeared to do it with a minimum of subtle takes. There seem to be only 4 or 5 cuts in this 45 minute video, and some of them require repeated viewing to pick out.

    Despite the fact the primary actors consist of auto tires, ladders, plywood sheets and soda bottles, DLDD is remarkably fun to watch. I highly recommend it.

    You can pick it up on DVD or VHS at many spots on the net. Here's a link to DVDPriceSearch.com's comparative price listing:
    http://www.dvdpricesearch.com/cgi-bin/dv dcalc2?cmd =calc&tmpCart=15602

  21. Get the advert + making of FREE (For UK ppl) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you live in the UK,
    Call the Honda Contact Centre on 0845 200 8000 and ask for a free DVD of THAT Honda ad. They also got it on VHS if you prefer.

    They got 20,000 copies. So dont rush :)

    1. Re:Get the advert + making of FREE (For UK ppl) by Loosewire · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just phoned up , he asked where i heard about it and i said here. "Ah ive just had someone from slashdot ask for one." "Yes i said, the whole slashdot readership have just reduced your webserver to smouldering wreck :-)"

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  22. Re:Honda Accord is the Cadillac of Autos by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "the suspension is so smooth, you can't tell that you're on a road at all"

    I take it you're an AMERICAN "driver" and the above statement qualifies as a GOOD THING?

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  23. Re:Well, it's a stupid answer by Skiboo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Something Awful actually redirected hits from /. to goatse.cx once when they were linked to by the front page.

    I wonder how the host of goatse felt about all that traffic, since I doubt SA asked for permission....

  24. Re:WTF is a 'tyre'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thanks, but soon all Americans will know about Tyre. After all, war is god's way of teaching Americans geography.

  25. For contrast by Sentry21 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Contrast this with Russian Ark. You really have to watch the trailer for an idea of its scale and majesty, but for those of you without Quicktime:

    • 2000 actors
    • 300 years of Russian history
    • 33 rooms of the Hermitage Museum
    • 3 live orchestras
    • 1
      single
      continuous
      shot
    • (voiceover) "Not only is Russian Ark the longest shot in film history, it is also the first feature film ever created in a single take."

    --Dan

  26. Those who ignore film history by K-Man · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are doomed to watch it in car ads.

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  27. great ad by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, how many of you are now driving new Honda Station Wagons?

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  28. Re:Great advert by Richard_at_work · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If the shock spring was finely balanced, then the slightest vibration would have set it rolling, so the thumping of several speakers, at tremendous bass, would be sure to have an affect

    The windshield has rain sensors which automatically trigger the wipers, which walk off. Simple yet amazingly effective.

  29. Oh dear God. by GLevangelist · · Score: 5, Funny

    They'll probably make millions selling the out-takes to obsessive geeks.

  30. Re:Object rolling through the open window. by einTier · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can easily see the break in the wood ramp. There's also an electrical contact that the cylinder makes to make the window roll down.

    Here's the synopsis:

    1. Transmission bearing rolls, hits second bearing.
    2. Second bearing rolls, hits third.
    3. Third bearing rolls, hits contration to release cam shaft.
    4. Cam shaft rolls, hits tailpipe.
    5. Tailpipe spins, hits valve stem on hood.
    6. Valve stem hits other valve stem.
    7. Second valve stem hits third valve stem.
    8. Valve stem falls off hood, hits something.
    9. That something hits a spring loaded mechanism mounted to engine valve cover.
    10. Spring loaded mechanism hits radiator.
    11. Radiator falls, hits tire.
    12. Tire hits weighted tire on ramp.
    13. Tire rolls uphill, hits second weighted tire.
    14. Second weighted tire rolls uphill, hits third weighted tire.
    15. Third weighted tire rolls uphill, hits disc brake rotor(?).
    16. Rotor falls on string, pulls seat back to it's full upright position.
    17. Seat triggers release of windshield wiper mechanism.
    18. Mecanism trips oil can.
    19. Oil can pours onto platform, weighting one end down.
    20. Platform tilts, releasing bearings(?) which roll into engine head.
    21. Engine head on lever causes battery to rise.
    22. Battery makes electrical connection, makes fan run.
    23. Fan runs, which causes it to move. It moves forward, disconnects from power source, and runs into metal wire, releasing nut.
    24. Nut drops, causes muffler to roll.

    ***CGI CUT***

    25. Muffler rolls into strange contraption.
    26. Strange contraption flings nut.
    27. Nut hits tire on front end of car.
    28. Tire rolls onto wire.
    29. Wire sets into motion contraption made mostly of connecting rods.
    30. Connecting rod starts metal cylinder rolling.
    31. Metal cylinder hits connecting rod contraption and stops.
    32. Potential energy stored in contraption causes rod to swing and kick off the metal cylinder.
    33. Cylinder hits window, makes electical contact.
    34. Electrical contact rolls down window.
    35. Cylinder rolls again, past window onto new ramp, then off ramp onto "oh shit" handles.
    36. Cylinder rolls off "oh shit" handles, onto battery, makes electrical contact.
    37. Contact causes winshield squirters to spray water on windshield.
    38. Windshield sensor detects "rain", turns on wipers.
    39. Wipers crawl across floor, trip emergency brake.
    40. Emergency brake sets window mobile in motion.
    41. Window mobile causes wind, pushing over plastic panel.
    42. Plastic panel has metal cylinder on top. Cylinder rolls into shock spring.
    43. Shock spring has metal rod in it, which spins down.
    44. Rod makes electrical contact, starts stereo.
    45. Stereo connected to woofers under windshield.
    46. Vibration causes spring to roll onto clutch pedal.
    47. Depression of clutch pedal activates assembly which presses "hatch close" on door key.
    48. Hatch closes, unbalancing platform.
    49. Platform tilts, car rolls.
    50. Car hits something that causees the Accord banner to unfurl.

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  31. /.'ed by Asmodean · · Score: 3, Funny

    In other news today scientists have discovered the cause of El Nino to be an underwater cable that periodically heats up and boils large amounts of the Pacific Ocean. Telephone officials have traced the cause to stories posted on "Slashdot.org" that link to Asia.

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  32. Re:How about the speakers vibrating the glass? by Elentar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Most people here must not ever drive in big cities. Especially in the parts of big cities that are frequently used for 'cruising'. With cars that shock and awe using incredibly loud volumes (especially bass).

    Is it so hard to believe that a spring could be kept from rolling off a slightly curved surface by, say, a single grain of sand? And that 16 speakers might serve to shift that grain of sand and start the spring rolling?

    For that matter, the spring appears to be in the center of the glass initially, so it could just be balanced really well.

    If I could change one thing about the commercial, it would be the end: In mine, the car would roll to a stop, and just as it did so, it would bump against a small cog on a wooden plank...

    -Elentar

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