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606 Takes To film Rube Goldberg-like car ad
wagdog writes "Many have no doubt seen the
Rube Goldberg-like multistep mechanical chain reaction
TV advert for the Honda Accord. Many thought this was yet another example of the pervasive use of computer graphics in TV commercials. Amazingly
the entire delicate set up of car parts that constitute the facinating sequence is almost 100% realtime live action
requiring an astounding 606 takes to get right
. There is one cheat however -- can you spot it?"
From 606 to 404 in under 6 seconds.
That green slime had it coming.
...suitable for mirroring: http://www.honda.co.uk/newcars/300k.swf (4.1 meg or so)
('course, it's slashdotted now.)
...I just thought he was a big dumb wrestler!
Mr. Smoove
I have it loaded and in my browser, but I'm unsure on how to extract the video segment so I can torrent it up :)
The record number of takes for a single shot in any movie is 125 in The Shining.
Why do I h8 apple?
I know that as of 2001, the world's record for the most retakes of a particular scene was held by Stanley Kubrick -- 160 retakes of one scene in The Shining. If car commercial film retakes count for this as well, these guys have set a new world record by far!
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here's a link to the most excellent kinetic art video:
http://www.firstrunfeatures.com/vid/thewaything
of course, if they hired the pair to do the stuff for the Commercial, then.....it's not a ripoff. (hope they made some bucks)
Err, if you RTFA you'd know the tyres had weights in them.
Sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma.
Man, how things have changed. I can still remember when Cadillacs had a 500 cu. in. (over 8L) displacement engine with enough weight and torque to affect the earths spin if you stomped on the gas. Then again, recalling the old ways of the Detroit assemply lines which built these things, Rube Goldberg would have been proud.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
I have it loaded and in my browser, but I'm unsure on how to extract the video segment so I can torrent it up :)
.swf file to figure this out, btw...)
It's a short (18k) flash file that then loads another flash file (called 300k.swf) that's about 4.1 meg. So, if you can figure out where your 300k.swf file is in the cache, you should be in business.
(I used flasm (http://flasm.sourceforge.net/) to disassemble the original
RTFA- The tyres were weighted " At one point, three tyres roll uphill because inside they have been weighted with bolts and screws"
The video itself plays within a Flash movie.
Not only will you need Flash to watch it at all, but you'll need the latest version of the Flash player in particular (6, which can include video).
Of course, it's a moot point anyway because Honda.co.uk can't take the Slashdot burden.
Experts agree: everything is fine.
Hmm. I thought the real Cadillac of autos was the ... err ... what's it called? Cadisomething.
I wasn't familiar with Rube Goldberg's work before this, but it looks like a carbon copy of Heath Robinson's style. Anyone agree with me here?
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But I wonder what aspect of the domino effect appears to turn the steering and apply the brakes of the car that rolls off the ramp at the end?
http://torrez.org/media/movie/cog.mov
Here's a link to those who'd like a non-slashdotted .mov download of the ad.
Thanks be to widepipe.org for the link...
MORTAR COMBAT!
but by God we can slashdot Honda!
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I have the file all ready, just need a torrent tracker to throw it at... anybody? bueler.... bueler....
"...The idea for the advert derived partly from the old children's game Mouse Trap, and from the wacky engineering of Caractacus Potts's breakfast-making machine in the Sixties film Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
HOGWASH! Nothing else exists like this except "The Way Things Go"
No mention of the Swiss artists, so I guess they didn't work on it. Anyone who has seen "The Way Things Go" will immediately recogize the ripoff. they have Tires going uphill too! And it all takes place in the same narrative format: one long left to right sequence (the original is actually almost 30 minutes long, compared this this thing from Honda...)
£750,000 for an ad which will run for 7 1/2 weeks - I'm sure it's not unusual; just don't forget what you're really paying for when you buy a car - a big chunk of the cost of autos is just covering advertising - it's the same with many consumer items.
I wonder what the math is on the idea of lowering advertising costs to bring down end price of the product which might increase sales, balanced against the decreased exposure which might decrease sales. As long as people are willing to pay what they are currently paying, I guess it doesn't matter.
RTFM; please, I beg you.
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Can someone who managed to dl'ed the movie maybe share it using bittorrent ? :) ...
Would be helpful if in the future editors who post stories that link to sites with lotsa eyecandy make a wget copy (or something similar) of the site *before* they post their story. Then when posting they would just add the bittorrent link at the end and everbody is happy
Of course, I suppose your digicam would suck because you spent all of your money on a S2000.
Screw the digicam, get a supercharger instead.
Also, did anyone else notice that the domain the S2000 pics are being hosted from is called "familycar.com"? I don't think that two seat cock-rocket is much of a grocery getter.
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My great aunt has a 1972 black El Dorado convertible. Boy do I love driving that thing down the highway. It stretches as far as the eye can see to the front and the back, and the suspension is so smooth, you can't tell that you're on a road at all. The best part is that it takes up the _entire_ lane. What a car.
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I remember there was this strange show on PBS which involved object after object setting of another. It involved fire, tires, weights, etc. Anyone remember seeing it?
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I'd say Robinson was more about social commentary than Goldberg. His typical drawing would be an overall look at a machine, sure, but there was usually something dilapidated about the workings of it, and there was something sort of comic-tragic about the people in the figure -- they're seriously working to maintain the thing despite its ludicrously overcomplex design, and it's running down despite them.
Goldberg is more of an engineer's taste -- he was an engineer to start with, wasn't he? -- and the idea is really to play with the idea of the machine to make it as ridiculous as possible. His machines aren't attended by a bunch of sadly intent factory workers, they're what my Great Uncle would call "flights of fancy." You hear about contests in the U.S., for fun, to build elaborate "Rube Goldberg contraptions" to perform simple actions.
Heath Robinson would have appreciated Metropolis more when it came out.
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Can someone explain the speakers that vibrate the windscreen? When i first saw it i just thought it must be CG or mixed, but to be completely real is amazing. The speakers just dont look real though... But this certainly has to be the best car advert ive ever seen. It really makes a change from all those stupid "mix together lots of random shots of a car driving by with music and happy people" adverts.
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First, the site. Then the mirror.
Tomorrow, ...?
Okay, so maybe the rolling exhaust box is CGI, but what about the sound? I bet most of that was put on in postproduction, samplers and synths. Fake, all of it :)
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Hang on a minute - Honda make decent cars. Are you suggesting they make low-tech and vast old bangers?
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Otherwise I'm thinking Computer graphics would have been the more efficient way of accomplishing what they wanted. Efficiency is something we like in a car maker, isn't it?
(And did they want me to find out it took them 600-plus takes to get the parts of their car to work right together? Jeez, doesn't a car pretty much need to use all those parts together every time?)
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
the more people who waste mod points on my stupid ass means fewer people to mod down AC's like you.
have a nice day.
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By far the most elaborate & amazing Rube-Goldberg apparatus ever filmed is "Die Lauf Der Dinge (The Way Things Go) by Swiss artists Peter Fischli and David Weiss (http://www.frif.com/cat97/t-z/the_way_.html).
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It includes not only complex mechanical agglomerations but all sorts of homemade pyrotechnical concoctions. These guys really new their inorganic chemistry.
Fischli & Weiss filled a warehouse with dozens & dozens these devices linked in series with the output of one element trigger the next one in the pipeline. The camera just keeps walking down the line following the action. You get the feeling the devices are set up in a large circle inside a huge empty building with the camera in the middle slowly turning to follow the train of activity.
The audio is quite intense, as well. Each device has its own very distinctive sound, which helps to make the video quite animated.
Most incredible of all, they appeared to do it with a minimum of subtle takes. There seem to be only 4 or 5 cuts in this 45 minute video, and some of them require repeated viewing to pick out.
Despite the fact the primary actors consist of auto tires, ladders, plywood sheets and soda bottles, DLDD is remarkably fun to watch. I highly recommend it.
You can pick it up on DVD or VHS at many spots on the net. Here's a link to DVDPriceSearch.com's comparative price listing:
http://www.dvdpricesearch.com/cgi-bin/d
is the "wagdog" name a reference to wave it in our face even more?
I haven't really looked around other sites to see if this is getting discussed or not, and the site appears to be down now as well - but it looks and smells an awful lot like astroturfing to me.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
If you live in the UK,
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Call the Honda Contact Centre on 0845 200 8000 and ask for a free DVD of THAT Honda ad. They also got it on VHS if you prefer.
They got 20,000 copies. So dont rush
They'd also have to change the interior shot to show a left-hand drive car for most markets. Plus they can only use it for markets with Accord Wagons (which excludes the U.S. these days). Plus there are undoubtedly minor differences in exterior trim that would have to be airbrushed in or out digitally on the car itself, at the end of the shot. But you're right for Japan, they could probably just change the voiceover. Then again, you could argue the same for most advertisements. Changing the voiceover is dirt cheap even if it's 60 seconds' worth instead of 5.
"the suspension is so smooth, you can't tell that you're on a road at all"
I take it you're an AMERICAN "driver" and the above statement qualifies as a GOOD THING?
That was classic intercourse!
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Something Awful actually redirected hits from /. to goatse.cx once when they were linked to by the front page.
I wonder how the host of goatse felt about all that traffic, since I doubt SA asked for permission....
From the article:
Nothing must be even a sixteenth of an inch off course or the momentum will be lost.
Man, when are the British going to stop being so pompous and join the rest of the world in using the metric system?
The definition you linked to (def. #2) actually does seem to suggest racism in the term. It uses a stereotype of Japanese culture to refer to something with a negative bias. Regardless, the commercial is really cool. I don't know anything about the car except that it's ugly.
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In the article it says that there were weights (bolts, etc) attached to the inside of the tires so that when they were bumped, the weight shifted causing them to roll uphill.
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It qualifies as a good thing when I'm in a five ton black car with a white leather interior with my elbow out the window, cruising around like Hunter S. Thompson in Las Vegas.
:-) The rest of the family doesn't always get it (they're English), but they, too, can enjoy it if the circumstances are right.
In my daily driving, the situation would be untenable.
The joy of lolling down the highway in an enormous car seems to be a fairly American indulgence. And it's one which I'm not ashamed to indulge once in a while.
Thanks, but soon all Americans will know about Tyre. After all, war is god's way of teaching Americans geography.
Cadillac does have an engine out now - just a prototype (but fully working under high loads) that produces 1000hp and torque - it is an aluminum block V16 that is less heavy that two of their large V8s together.
Honda's torque band is pathetic on their engines - in order to get anything usable you have to rev entirely too high - even for around town driving.
I suppose it is all a matter of preference.
I don't really want either the honda nor the caddy.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
I hope their cars have more horsepower than their web server.
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Illegal to say "Rube Goldberg"
Anyone got a version that works with Xine - like an MPEG or DiVX?
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Here's a nice reference.
Advertising is a fact of life. Everyone does it. It's not the cost of the ad that is ultimately important, it's the impact. This ad has generated more buz than any car ad in years. More people have already activly watched this ad than will bother to look at the average car ad. Will this increase sales? Hard to say. Will it get your attention? Very definitely.
Advertising rarely makes up a significant part of the price of any consumer item anymore. Taxes, especially England's high VAT, makes up a much larger percentage of the cost than advertising ever could.
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ooo - so I get a whopping 190 out of a frickin 3.0L V6? that is pathetic - there are 4cyl engines out there that make that and they weigh less too.
So you get low torque over what they call a flat band, out of a weak engine.
So like I said - in order to get enough torque for a heavy car, you then need to rev it high to get to the top of their flat band.
Then again, the people that seek out the Honda Accord aren't exactly the people that seek out the 100HP and 100+lb-ft torque per L of an engine.
It just amuses me that the price of the Accord is creeping up to that of cars that are much better.
to each their own.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
I think they ripped off the idea after seeing how the Slashdot Servers run. LOL, it never ceases to amaze me how I can post one time in a day, but get an error stating how Ive exceeded my daily post amount.
Manipulate the moderator system! Mod someone as "overrated" today.
Mentioned above, this special has aired on PBS, under the title "The Way Things Work". It's truly a must-see.
There are two good mirrors on the Distributer Mirror. And Im sure a few more will come soon.
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What this version of the video has in it's favor is it is compressed in the flash format.. So it all is "masked" by the compression that flash uses so it would be pretty hard to actually tell where the 1 frame of computer generated cell is... In fact.. during the compression, that frame may be non-existant anyways.
Very impressive shot.
- what is the definition of simultanagnosia?! I've been meaning to look it up!
my '88 Accord is more like a sheet metal covered go-cart. Take a ride in a 2003 STS and tell me there is even a slight resemblance between it and a newer Accord... Accord is more like the Taurus of asian autos (imo).
Here's a mirror, I believe.
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That looks really fake. I have a hard time believing only the exhaust pipe in CGI.
Scott.
Contrast this with Russian Ark. You really have to watch the trailer for an idea of its scale and majesty, but for those of you without Quicktime:
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There is one cheat however -- can you spot it?
He's probably hanging out with Strong Mad in the basement, playing the Trogdor arcade game.
As the car rolls down the ramp, somebody steers it and applies the brakes.
That's all I got
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Its preferable to having your teeth rattled out on some of the poorly kept highways we have. I'm all for tight sporty suspension and handling but sometimes its nice to feel like you are floating on air. There is just something about heavy cars with silky suspension and high profile inflatable tires that makes driving feel like you are sitting on your couch at home. You can't find that in the smaller, lighter, more sporty cars.
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I say, if they don't have robots.txt, or no-cache, it's fair game.
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I'm not interested in buying a Honda Accord, a Pentium 4 3Ghz, a copy of EverQuest, or a copy of Firefly on DVD.
Give me an example of a 3.0L NA engine that has a better hp/torque ratio than the Accord for the price of an Accord ($ 24k).
... those cars are pathetic.
Or are you one of those people who cried when GM canceled the Camaro/Firebird
I donno, but I can get a old mustang for about $2000 and build a 400+ hp n/a engine for about $1000. I bet it would beat any stock Accord for about $21,000 less. (misses days of wasting Hondas with the 400+ hp '67 mustang)
I can't see it very well, but the part where the cylindrical object rolls down the board, and the window goes down to let it through... is the board split in two? Otherwise, it appears that would be CGI, because the board was through the window.
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Depends a lot on what you mean by "beating" a Honda.
The $2,000 beat-to-shit 20 year old car with $1,000 worth of el-cheap-o engine mods would certainly have better 1/4 mile times than a brand new stock Honda.
Of course, for $800 I could buy an old and tired 1100 cc suzuki motorcycle that would beat your $3,000 old and tired mustang in the 1/4.
What's the point of this? To discover who can buy the fastest shit-heap for the least money?
Slashdot is jumping the shark. I'm just driving the boat.
Are doomed to watch it in car ads.
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Are you retarded? The original post said 240HP, not 190... ...anyway, I don't think most (intellegent) people buy an Accord for bench-racing.
...what a fun way to burn Karma!
If you want to go fast in a straight line cheaply, buy anything with a Chevy 350 and build it up; if you want to go REALLY fast, stop pussing around with cars and buy a motorcycle.
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whether I'm retarded or not is still up in the air - I personally would vote yes - but there are those that argue against it... mostly my mom.
but that is entirely outside the realm of this discussion. what is inside this discussion is the fact that we were discussing *torque* which is, in this case, a very different thing. the 190 that I pointed out would be the torque that it would have at regular speeds around town and not at annoying RPMs - which was my point, it is an annoying car to drive.
Horespower means nothing unless you compare it to the torque, the size of the wheels, and the weight of the car.
I have no interest in the "bench racing" - I was responding to a post in which someone was saying how great an Accord was and listed its specs as "proof" and I was pointing out that the specs were in fact, crap.
If you REALLY want to argue about who's penis is smaller - I assure you I will win - no contest.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
So, how many of you are now driving new Honda Station Wagons?
"Derp de derp."
more like a 35 year old car, fixed up, with A LOT of work building the engine (not el-cheapo, we used to spend all our free time in the garage). yeah... apples & oranges. Just brought back some memories of highschool and racing/wasting tricked out Hondas. I am an accord owner, I drive it because it is cheaper commuting than a big 10 mpg V8 right now. :)
lol - I don't think I've ever cried about anything car related. esp not American cars coming and going. While I have no opinion one way or the other about those cars, I would argue that I have seen many drivers of said cars that would be better described as pathetic. but hey, takes all kinds.
you are right - the better engines cost more - which isn't entirely outside of my point that apparently is lost in all of this.
the accord is cheap, and drives that way.
and yes, I have driven one - my 50 year old mother has one and loves it. but she also doesn't go around bragging about its horespower and torque ratings... (I guarentee she has no clue what they even mean).
If someone says that they love Hondas because they get good gas mileage, then fantastic - but if you start throwing around stats on any Honda, then it stands to point out the futility of it to that person.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
Will be modded offtopic, but it's a worthy sacrifice.
I have a '94 Accord with 203,000 miles on it, and the only damned thing wrong with it is the power antenna got stuck in the "up" position because my brother kept yanking on it. No mechanical problems whatsoever other than regular maintenance-related issues. Wonderful, wonderful car, and please don't compare it to an American automaker that couldn't make something that ran well over 100,000 miles if their industry depended on it (which it doesn't because people think a new car every 5 years is somehow necessary).
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the rubber tires was standing on an ramp (about 35 to 40 degrees). its not plain possible.
Yes it is possible. The tires are weighted. RTFA.
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They'll probably make millions selling the out-takes to obsessive geeks.
I find this deliciously ironic, because the voiceover on the final ad goes something like "Don't ya love it when things just ... work?"
:-)
Well clearly things didn't "just work" if they needed 606 takes to get it right!!
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According to http://www.rube-goldberg.com, there's an annual competition at Purdue University each year to build a Rube Goldberg-ian machine. In fact, the one for 2003 was last Saturday! Did anyone go? Results available at http://www.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/rube/rube.index.html .
Yeah, I used to have a '75 ElDeBoato convertible with one of those engines in it - that was a sweet engine. Of course I only got 7mpg around town in it and I had a huge pang of guilt whenever I'd pass a bicyclist - you didn't want to breathe that exhaust!
There is nothing at all in the advert that makes me want to buy a Honda in preference to any other car, and apart from the complete car in the last few seconds, there is nothing that is even a recognisable Honda part there (unless you take apart cars for aliving, I guess?).
All I get from this advert is the message that Honda have a lot of time and money to waste. Now I also know that and they insist on doing things in a very dumb way when they could have saved a lot of time and money by using a computer.
Way to go, advertising agency, you just put me off the Honda brand.
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yep, fischli & weiss rock.
here's the parent comment's link, without the space, and...uh...as a link.
This Like That - fun with words!
...Im going to go download the new Animatrix trailer while all of you are slashdotting Honda's servers!
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I sit here in shock and amazement - Macromedia actually has a Flash 6 plugin for Mozilla under Linux.
I must go out to my car now and roll up my windows - else those flying pigs will make a mess of my upholstery.
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The rolling muffler is CG.
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have you checked out the BMW 330D? 204bhp, 296lb/ft.
my Mazda Xedos 6 (2L V6 24v DOHC VRIS) makes just over 170bhp - I'd certainly expect an extra 1000cc to make a bigger difference - in fact, I think the 2L V6 as used in the Jag X-type (an evolution of MY motor) makes around 190bhp.
That was classic intercourse!
that's not really fair. Honda designs and builds some of the finest engines money can buy - in fact, if an American car company EVER makes a car (in America) as well-engineered and reliable as a humble Honda Accord, I'll eat my shoes.
That was classic intercourse!
Perhaps one has already mentioned this previously, but why not mirror future high bandwidth submitted items or pages on a newly created Yahoo Group?
This submission is a perfect example of why and when to do this.
As far as the how? Simple, create a group with archives open to the public, then attach the files in the files section. After you are done archiving the link, then submit the story.
There is a filesize limit on the group accounts, but anything below that would work. Seven or so days later, delete the group.
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have you checked out the BMW 330D? 204bhp, 296lb/ft.
Wow, it really *is* Alan Partridge. And all this time, I'd just assumed you were some Slashdot geek who was pretending...
Snagged a quicktime version from a UK version of adcritic.com. It's announced at the above torrentse.cx.
Uhm.. comparing bikes to cars is kinda like apples and oranges, don't you think? I know I race my friends down the Garden STate Parkway, they on their bikes, me in my mustang.. and they smoke me every time. it's a matter of less drag, less weight to actually move from a stop.
think of the physics involved man!
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Well I'm glad we got that all straightened out.
For the record, I owned a '95 Cadillac STS for about four years before the constant repairs and expense of simple maintainence lead me to search for a replacement.
After test-driving almost everything both domestic and from abroad, I ended up buying a 2002 Accord SE. I thought for sure that I would be dissapointed in the performance of the (4-cylinder) engine after having driven the Cadillac for so long, but I have to say honestly it makes no real difference in my daily drive (a thirty minute commute, city and country driving, about a 50/50 mix). Not only that, but the fit and finish, handling and of course milage of the Accord blows the Cadillac away.
There are times I do miss the 140+MPH top-end of the Cadillac, but that is what I have the Ducati for....
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OK, the muffler could be CG, but what about the last second when the car rolls off the ramp? The front tires/tyres/whatever come off the ramp when the rears are still BEHIND the ramp axle- that ramp would have to be terribly heavy to have the front segment weigh more than the back segment+rear of car. If that is the case, how did they balance it to begin with? Hmmm....
No, the REAL AGP drives a Lexus - the Japanese Mercedes.
That was classic intercourse!
Your response doesn't make any sense. He's wondering at the math involved in the current balance of how much companies spend on advertising vs the cost that that adds to the product, seeming to feel that it's a bit excessive, you're bitching about the sales/VAT taxes in a semi-socialist country.
RTFC
My friend just got a new Ducati - not sure what model - but he loves that thing (rich IB bastard also has a Viper and a new M3). Another friend upon hearing about it said that he'd rather have the high end Honda CBR.
;)
To each their own - I'm not big on motorcycles myself (I appreciate the technology, just have no personal interest in it).
If I could have any car right now, I'd wait until the new M5 - I think due out in '05 - although I'd want to wait a year on that to allow them to work out the kinks.
Then again, I also like the new 7 series, even before the upcoming redesign this year - but not the L varient, even with the 12cyl.
hell, where I'm moving all the cars are tiny and you can't have anything all that amazing. I'll have a damn scooter and some sort of used Suzuki fake Jeep thing.
once I come back to the states, then I'll see what cool cars are around then and take it from there. but I'm doubting I'll go the Accord route
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
Same with the engines. Add 10lbs of boost or a 100hp shot of nitrous to a stock 240HP Accord and see how long it lasts. It won't last long because of the closer to desing limits the car already operates at. It was not designed for that.
...probably longer than any American car engine under normal load...
If you doubt me talk to my friend Bill who just had his brand-new Trailblazer lose a head gasket because the factory's manufacturing tolerances were wrong (or maybe it was just assembled poorly, anyone's guess). The important thing is that Honda cars do what they are designed to do; they do it well and they last forever... sloppyness in enginering, while producing the occasional benefit (the one in one hunder thousand mechanic who puts a blower on a Monte Carlo) cannot live up to even one tenth the reliability of the asian imports.
I was a long-time american car fan untill I spent more fixing my Cadillac STS than I did buying it in the first place.
second society
In other news today scientists have discovered the cause of El Nino to be an underwater cable that periodically heats up and boils large amounts of the Pacific Ocean. Telephone officials have traced the cause to stories posted on "Slashdot.org" that link to Asia.
It's a good thing the world sucks or we'd all fall off.
A Gibson fan...(took me a minute to remember the reference).
I gave up on cars after the STS, it was my dream car since I was 18 and when I finally bought one it was such a dissapointment that I decided that I'll find a car that works all the time and keep the bikes for having fun.
Here in the kinda-great-white-north you can't really drive hard other than in the summer, so the motorcycle thing works out nicely...plus you can have a rediculous hp/weight ratio and still get 50MPG+
I think that guys who hot-rod Hondas are just as lame as you probably do, but you have to appriciate them for what they are.
second society
Singapore, eh?
Still, have you SEEN the new 5 series? Damned ugly.
That was classic intercourse!
The good old Daily Record appears on /. lol
Well stranger things have happened....
I think...
SA
I saw the original short film this Honda ad plagiarized, about ten years ago...done by an artist using things to hand in his grubby studio. In all my years watching "great" ads, I have yet to see one that wasn't originated elsewhere by someone who was never paid for it, certainly not the big bucks by Honda. The so-called "creativity" of the ad-men is really just stealing. Shame on the people who made this.
After reading the second article, this becomes more clear to me. That's still a cheat though, but damn, what a cool commercial.
CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
the slashdot effect.
I have not seen the commercial, but have enjoyed his ridiculous inventions...
--Joey
LOL - well, I'm weird! I *like* the new 7 series and the 5 series is growing on me... like a rash.
I always felt the older ones were boring looking anyways, and I like that designer.
and no, not Singapore, Bermuda.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
That was incredibly lame. Gee. Whoopi Goldberg. I think the appropriate response would be "har har har," but the Slashbots will of course mod you up for no intelligent reason. It was neither funny nor clever.
"Sufferin' succotash."
http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/9612.Rube .one.html
I believe it is headquartered at Purdue, but other universities also participate.
here is the link... Honda
The linux plugin doesn't happen to work. At all. I even d/led the .swf to my hd, and all I get is a blank white page. It's ironic; all of the annoying flash-based advertisements work, but when I actually want to view something worthwhile that uses flash...
I don't have a problem with caching, rather the slashdot editors said that they didn't want to cache sites to protect against the slashdot effect because it might piss off webmasters. I said that if you thought caching was bad, you could still notify people, especially since slashdot posts stuff so late anyway. I saw this linked on fark days ago.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
A comment complaning about slashdot's rather careless linking policy gets -1. A comment with a link the FAQ gets a 4. A comment refuting the FAQ gets -1. How nice.
Slashdot editors are a bunch of thin-skinned jackasses.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
It worked just fine for me when I installed it.
/usr/(lib|local)/mozilla/plugins?
Stupid question - do you perhaps have the new plugin installed in your home directory, and the old plugin installed in
www.eFax.com are spammers
http://home.attbi.com/~bernhard36/honda-ad.html
Quicktime:
4.8 meg, 320x180: bitzi
11.6 meg, 428x240: bitzi
I'd provide eDonkey or Gnutella links but the links get broken here.
I have to confess, I've not seen the honda ad yet. (School computer). But I've seen the video that many people discussing this article are talking about, the swiss film, "The Way Things Go".
"The Way Things Go" is a half hour long, and there are about 10 cheats, not good CG ones either, But slow dissolves that anyone would be able to see, the way things go is also very slow, sometimes you wait about a minute for a liquid to spill across a surface, sometimes the transitions occur during this liquid spreading. Don't get me wrong, I liked the film, but if someone has done a great number of similar effects with only one cheat in under a minute, I would assume it would be a lot more impressive. And who cares if it's been done before. Most things have been done before.
I think you people are just mad bacause it's honda and they make crappy cars.
Still a cheat, but a fairly minor one. It seems like it was the small really finely balanced things that were screwing up most of the time. The muffler is pretty large and stable, so not very likely to go off course, and it seems like the only reason they did the cut was because it was physically impossible to fit everything on the set at once. If they'd decided to have the cut at one of the incredibly failure prone points i'd think it was more of a foul play.
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Just watching this ad is makes me want to play the Incredible Machine. How many others got that feeling. For those who haven't played it's a puzzle game, originally published by Sierra. (but no longer available in its original form) Where in each puzzle you are given a 2-D side view of a partial Rube Goldberg machine and a bunch of spare parts that are to be used to complete the goal of each machine. You'd get to use parts like mouse motors that can be connected to coveyor belts, an assortment of balls, some flammables like candles and cannons, and a few critters. So immediately after watching the ad, I went and hunted down my copy for some good old DOS fun, when to my surprise the Disc was corrupted and unusable. Just a reminder to those who still have software on floppies, make a back-up copy. So backup your software so you don't have to go TIMless.
Laziness is a virtue, anyone who bothers to tell you otherwise, is clearly lacking it.
i thought of the incredible machine too. and actually i have it (and bought it recently) from amazon. it's call incredible machines contraptions... here's the link BTW it is great.
Definitely going to get that DVD to see if they mention GK.
The BBC in the UK does not show advertisements, the rest of British TV is mostly crap.
I don't know, it may be only me, but I find something terribly disturbing when advertisements of all things are whorshiped like something worth so much discussion.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Besides, who ever popped out for a swift 548cl down the pub?
You don't have to be a troll to end up on my foe's list... I don't arrange it that way.
I add anyone as a foe if I don't think they typically add anything to the conversation. I had an entire exchange with Trolling4Dollars on the subject, and he happened to agree with my criteria.
My foes list is only set at about -1, so if you post something that gets moderated up, I'll still see it. When I see a couple posts from you (whoever you happen to be) that I find to be interesting or show some genuine insight, or are otherwise things I'd like to spend some of my (limited) time reading, then you will get removed from my foes list, and possibly added to my friends list as well.
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
+3 most of the time. Occasionally, I'll set it higher if there is an extra-large number of comments on a story, or I don't have much time.
Before I add anyone as a friend or foe, I check about 5 from their history to give some perspective. Not really an exhaustive search, but since it's only -1 or +1, I don't worry about it too much... Get just one extra mod point and I will see the comment again, and remove that person as a foe if I think the comments are worthwhile.
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
Even if the majority of the takes failed early (mention was made of the twirling wiper blade contraption), I don't think 9.5 minutes is achievable, even if you were just filming a cereal box.
What gives?
...and they shall know me by my sig.
This movie is 100% CG, by the way. I know I'm posting realllly late, so probably no one will see this, but this commercial is totally CG. Even the title is a subtle reference to that fact, a sort of stuck out tongue to everyone's back. The title is "Cog". Think about it. I'm surprised slashdotters didn't pick up on this. It's really amazing, actually. This is probably the first totally CG production that fooled everyone, even slashdotters. Amazing.
Yes, but he'd know the specs on the latest line of BMW's, if only to find them wanting when measured against his Lexus.