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Phoenix and Minotaur Get New Names
blazerw11 writes "Phoenix and Minotaur
have been officially renamed to Firebird for the browser and Thunderbird for the mail client. Interestingly, they're both named after cars I often see in my neighbors' lawns. At least these cars were pretty fast before they were put up on cinder blocks. Personally, I like the names and the browser is great. I'm writing this with one of the last Phoenix Nightlies."
So the 'Phear This!' and 'Calvin pissing on IE' skins will be forthcoming, right? =)
"You know why you do not see me styling wit my homies? Because I have no homies!!" -Mojo Jojo
In related news, Internet Explorer is being renamed "Pinto," reflecting its tendency to blow up.
Pheonix is a great browser for me cause I am stuck using P2 233 with winnt in my comp sci class with no ie installed. The only issue is that I have to store pheonix on my personal drive which is a max of 48 megs. The pheonix I use is 12 megs which is 1/4 of the space. Conclusion: Pheonix is a great light browser performance wise but it has to be more compressed in terms of size still.
Checking out my form of escapism.
I love the Mozilla herd, but please do me a favor...
:(
Quit renaming all the browsers! Every time I recommend them to a friend or coworker, the name changes and they get confused.
Karma: Chameleon (mostly due to the fact that you come and go).
Firenerd and Thundernerd? Seems kinda fitting, don't you think?
And we can call the IRC client ChunderWord, because that's basically the point of IRC chat.
(to "chunder" is to vomit)
This sig intentionally left bla... dammit!
Who's got the whiteout?
After numerous attempts on it's life by the Microsoft mafia family, Phoenix is being given a new name and identity an an undisclosed website in the hopes of protecting it.
You'll also notice that the Mozilla team's MacOS X browser has been renamed Camino. Cars are definatly in style for them.
These folks must not have looked very hard if they thought "Firebird" was a name with no conflicts in the open-source world. Firebird SQL is on SourceForge, a pretty obvious place to look.
The Evolution(tm) Mail client will be renamed "Camaro", while the Abiword is skipping the subtle but amusing titles and jumping right into it with their latest release, codenamed "WhiteTrash"
I'd rather be a conservative nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job.
One issue I see right away is this "Firebird" is not the same as the one found in http://firebird.sourceforge.net/ which could be confusing to people looking for this Firebird (or confusing to the people looking for the other Firebird...)
Why oh why did the Macs get stuck with the sawed-off station wagon anyway? :P
Karma: Chameleon (mostly due to the fact that you come and go).
Volvos are more classy than Thunderbirds and Firebirds.
Volunteer Mozilla developer, RPI Student.
Use UPX to compress phoenix.exe. I'm running one of the nightlies and I got it to go from 6.6MB to 2.7MB. It's not a lot of space, but it helps, and there's no decrease in speed.
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In another surprise sequence of events, GCC was renamed GNU Caprice Classic and Emacs was renamed Pontiac Catalina.
Apparently as part of an prior agreement, the Chevy Tahoe was immediately renamed the GNU/Chevy Tahoe.
- Eric
because there was some copyright problem with Pheonix (taken by someone else, don't remember whom though).
What your talking about though is codenames. Those are supposed to change once the product is released. Excuse me if i'm wrong, but Pheonix wasn't a code name, It was a product name.
YOU SUCK BALLS!
...the Database?
Honestly, as much as I admire the work these folks do, I have to wonder how one medium-to-high-profile open-source project can decide to use the name of another.
It's not like there aren't other good poetic variations on the Phoenix theme.
This Like That - fun with words!
Didn't AMD use Mustang and Thunderbird originally for their chips before they were released?
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
Phoenix was renamed to avoid potential legal problems from Phoenix BIOS.
First is was [El] Camino, now Firebird and Thunderbird? Damn. Mozilla people need to get out more. I can see my mother right now "I can't read my email in Firebird" and I'll say "Thunderbird" to which she'll respond "Whatever"
Joy.
How many people will accidently install the Firebird RDBMS thinking it is the web browser....
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Everytime Firebird/Thunderbird crashes, I'll have to report it to my insurance company instead of bugzilla? I hope a tow truck can manage applications!
Yeah, what's up with that. Did they not do a google search in their investigations? Or are they not concerned about conflicting names with another OS project? It even beats out the car on a search.
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Northwood... Not to mention Longhorn
... Nah.
These names are getting cruder and cruder... Pretty soon we will see the new "Largenuts" northbridge and the "Bigcock" processor to go with it.
Maybe it's just me that's getting cruder?
I'd rather be a conservative nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job.
Composer is available in Mozilla, too. Making it stand-alone is going to happen. According to the New Roadmap, the GRE/toolkit will be the basis for all the stand-alone applications such as the browser, mail client, composer, and any other application created using the GRE/toolkit (which could be anything -- as long as it adheres to the MPL). This has been in the works for a long time. I remember hearing about breaking apart the applications way back in early 2002. The GRE was created not soon after, and now we have it being employed to finally create the stand-alone applications that were once fully integrated into the Mozilla process.
Volunteer Mozilla developer, RPI Student.
And to further prove I'm a retread, here is the page for whiny bitch windows users like me to install a choice of nightlies.
I'll go stand in the corner.
So MacGyver and the Phoenix Foundation finally staked their claim to their name, huh? I would've thought you could've settled it all for some duct tape, a pencil, three acorns and some sodium benzoate.
It's too bad they didn't name [Phoenix] after a motorcycle. It would've made much more sense. Motorcycles are faster, lighter, more compact, more efficient, and way more fun than crappy cars.
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German Software maker SAP is renaming their R/3 software to 750iL.
*rimshot*
Yes, I agree.
Not only would your friends know what you are talking about, but so would mine and everyone elses. When you say Internet Explorer, everyone knows what you are talking about, right?
I think people behind Mozilla should learn and adopt this simple 'trick' from Microsoft if they want Mozilla/Phoenix/Firebird to become more popular.
I would love to see the percentage of visitors using Mozilla go up in my access_log, and the percentage of IE go down. Both Mozilla and Pheonix deserve it.
Simpy
Mozilla's Thunderbird and Firebird components will undergo a name change as these are apparently trademarked by the Ford Motor Company and Pontiac, a division of General Motors Corporation.
In response the team will rename the Mozilla-based browser and email clients in the next release. In following with their current Greek theme, the team has been throwing around the names Muse for the browser and Pegasus for Email.
Team members have a good "gut feeling" these names will not be confused with existing commercial products or trademarks.
Shouldn't customer confusion be assumed?
paintball
Phoenix is a lightweight and fast browser, so it's ideal for boxes built around the last generation of processors, like K2s, Pentium Pros, etc. (Or is that the generation before last?)
The bummer is that both milestone and daily builds are -i686 binaries. Someone else filed a bugzilla ticket on this in December. I guess we can just vote for it and hope that the mozilla.org folks find the time to do a -i586 build, too.