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Phoenix and Minotaur Get New Names
blazerw11 writes "Phoenix and Minotaur
have been officially renamed to Firebird for the browser and Thunderbird for the mail client. Interestingly, they're both named after cars I often see in my neighbors' lawns. At least these cars were pretty fast before they were put up on cinder blocks. Personally, I like the names and the browser is great. I'm writing this with one of the last Phoenix Nightlies."
So the 'Phear This!' and 'Calvin pissing on IE' skins will be forthcoming, right? =)
"You know why you do not see me styling wit my homies? Because I have no homies!!" -Mojo Jojo
In related news, Internet Explorer is being renamed "Pinto," reflecting its tendency to blow up.
Pheonix is a great browser for me cause I am stuck using P2 233 with winnt in my comp sci class with no ie installed. The only issue is that I have to store pheonix on my personal drive which is a max of 48 megs. The pheonix I use is 12 megs which is 1/4 of the space. Conclusion: Pheonix is a great light browser performance wise but it has to be more compressed in terms of size still.
Checking out my form of escapism.
I love the Mozilla herd, but please do me a favor...
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Quit renaming all the browsers! Every time I recommend them to a friend or coworker, the name changes and they get confused.
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Why do software (and hardware) developers feel they need to change the names of their products when they finish them? Just to confuse us? Please there must be someone who can clarify this! I see it time and time again, paticularly with CPUs: Clawhammer, Sledgehammer, Northwood... Not to mention Longhorn, *insert some other codenamed thingy here*
Firenerd and Thundernerd? Seems kinda fitting, don't you think?
And we can call the IRC client ChunderWord, because that's basically the point of IRC chat.
(to "chunder" is to vomit)
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Who's got the whiteout?
I think this is good. It will give user a theme they can identify with (especially if all the mozilla derivatives follow the convention).
But I guess they already had a theme going with fantasy creatures to begin with. I wonder where it will go.
After numerous attempts on it's life by the Microsoft mafia family, Phoenix is being given a new name and identity an an undisclosed website in the hopes of protecting it.
You'll also notice that the Mozilla team's MacOS X browser has been renamed Camino. Cars are definatly in style for them.
These folks must not have looked very hard if they thought "Firebird" was a name with no conflicts in the open-source world. Firebird SQL is on SourceForge, a pretty obvious place to look.
The Evolution(tm) Mail client will be renamed "Camaro", while the Abiword is skipping the subtle but amusing titles and jumping right into it with their latest release, codenamed "WhiteTrash"
I'd rather be a conservative nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job.
One issue I see right away is this "Firebird" is not the same as the one found in http://firebird.sourceforge.net/ which could be confusing to people looking for this Firebird (or confusing to the people looking for the other Firebird...)
Why oh why did the Macs get stuck with the sawed-off station wagon anyway? :P
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Volvos are more classy than Thunderbirds and Firebirds.
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Use UPX to compress phoenix.exe. I'm running one of the nightlies and I got it to go from 6.6MB to 2.7MB. It's not a lot of space, but it helps, and there's no decrease in speed.
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Here are a couple of screenshots:
Firebird
Thunderbird
Why not rename phoenix to "Internet Explorer", just to fuck with M$.
After all "Internet Explorer" shouldn't be allowed to be a trademark in Internet industry, the same argument as Windows being a trademark ?
Plus that way they can get totally clueless joe six-packs to download thinking they are upgrading their IE,
Wow imagine the user base generated by that ?
for the last time people, I am "frodo from middle eaRTH", not "middle eaST".
Why would they name it the same as the open source relational database firebird project?
Originally open sourced by Borland (commercial name interbase).
for in-class use you might wanna try ghostzilla. We switched to it in my high school computer programming class (a joke, I wanted to vomit when I saw the teachers code formatting.) and not a single person was ever caught using it.
It will do cool things like open inside existing windows in greyscale with images only shown on mouseover, and it will disappear when you mouse leaves its area on to come back with a flick of the wrist. If you don't need precautions that serious, it has lesser settings of paranoia.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
In another surprise sequence of events, GCC was renamed GNU Caprice Classic and Emacs was renamed Pontiac Catalina.
Apparently as part of an prior agreement, the Chevy Tahoe was immediately renamed the GNU/Chevy Tahoe.
- Eric
...the Database?
Honestly, as much as I admire the work these folks do, I have to wonder how one medium-to-high-profile open-source project can decide to use the name of another.
It's not like there aren't other good poetic variations on the Phoenix theme.
This Like That - fun with words!
Didn't AMD use Mustang and Thunderbird originally for their chips before they were released?
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From their old radio campaign: What's the word? Thunderbird! What's the jive? Bird's alive! What's the price? Thirty twice! Ah... enjoy the savory citrus flavor
//radiotakeover.
First is was [El] Camino, now Firebird and Thunderbird? Damn. Mozilla people need to get out more. I can see my mother right now "I can't read my email in Firebird" and I'll say "Thunderbird" to which she'll respond "Whatever"
Joy.
What I'd really like to know is...has the old (Netscape) Composer been spun off into its own, stand-alone program? It sounds silly, but I really liked Composer. Simple and straightforward HTML creation. I'd love to see it offered as a stand-alone!
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How many people will accidently install the Firebird RDBMS thinking it is the web browser....
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Everytime Firebird/Thunderbird crashes, I'll have to report it to my insurance company instead of bugzilla? I hope a tow truck can manage applications!
Yeah, what's up with that. Did they not do a google search in their investigations? Or are they not concerned about conflicting names with another OS project? It even beats out the car on a search.
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Now we need someone to design some really cool graphics.g i?id=202059
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c
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And to further prove I'm a retread, here is the page for whiny bitch windows users like me to install a choice of nightlies.
I'll go stand in the corner.
So MacGyver and the Phoenix Foundation finally staked their claim to their name, huh? I would've thought you could've settled it all for some duct tape, a pencil, three acorns and some sodium benzoate.
It's too bad they didn't name [Phoenix] after a motorcycle. It would've made much more sense. Motorcycles are faster, lighter, more compact, more efficient, and way more fun than crappy cars.
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Okay not completely on-topic, but:
I have noticed that RadialContext, which is probably the best thing that happened to browsers since the mouse, is now available for Phoenix, or Thunderbird, or whatever.
A little note on that is you can change all the skins to pngs (do a global replace on the sript files) and lower the opacity to like 70% or so. suddenly you've got transparenty menus! Looks sweet as all heck.
My life in the land of the rising sun.
Yeah, story writer, but _I_ live next to a Minatour and a Phoenix. I live in Knossos and have a summer home in Heliopolis.
I guess in reality I 'live next' to two Tan Olds Cutlass Cieras, right close to the bar in the movie Fargo. Guess which city I live in!
Frankly I liked Phoenix and Minotaur much better.
:P thbbbt.
But if they were going to change their names to the new "old car" motif, why oh why a Firebird and a Thunderbird? If they called one of them Stingray, I wouldn't be bitching. Not that a 'vette was a great car, but because the name is so much cooler. I know Stingray is probably taken, but so is Firebird, so
Even then, why name them after middle of the hill production cars. If the apps are supposed to be bitchen, use the names of bitchen super/muscle cars. The obvious: Superbird, Cobra, F1 (as in McLaren). Or, the not so obvious: Pantera, Barchetta, and Silver Shadow. Or you could even mix the two and go with the likes of Tuscan, Cerbera, or Tamora.
My spoon is too big!
Seems that Mozilla is evolutioning to birds, like in real world evolution :-)
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German Software maker SAP is renaming their R/3 software to 750iL.
*rimshot*
Yes, I agree.
Not only would your friends know what you are talking about, but so would mine and everyone elses. When you say Internet Explorer, everyone knows what you are talking about, right?
I think people behind Mozilla should learn and adopt this simple 'trick' from Microsoft if they want Mozilla/Phoenix/Firebird to become more popular.
I would love to see the percentage of visitors using Mozilla go up in my access_log, and the percentage of IE go down. Both Mozilla and Pheonix deserve it.
Simpy
Mozilla's Thunderbird and Firebird components will undergo a name change as these are apparently trademarked by the Ford Motor Company and Pontiac, a division of General Motors Corporation.
In response the team will rename the Mozilla-based browser and email clients in the next release. In following with their current Greek theme, the team has been throwing around the names Muse for the browser and Pegasus for Email.
Team members have a good "gut feeling" these names will not be confused with existing commercial products or trademarks.
Shouldn't customer confusion be assumed?
paintball
Dumb. They will find that firebird.sourceforge.net has been taken already, Firebird is Interbase, the open source version of borland db which is run by real professionals who run a real db consulting business. And the next version is being built. They really don't need a raft of people making mistakes about their name. Pick your own!
And Mozilla itself shall be renamed "Mercury Marauder" - it is big, heavy, powerful, and not quite as expensive as the competition.
Meanwhile, rumors from Redmond indicate they have begun on a project codenamed "Ricer" - no additional data found.
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Phoenix is a lightweight and fast browser, so it's ideal for boxes built around the last generation of processors, like K2s, Pentium Pros, etc. (Or is that the generation before last?)
The bummer is that both milestone and daily builds are -i686 binaries. Someone else filed a bugzilla ticket on this in December. I guess we can just vote for it and hope that the mozilla.org folks find the time to do a -i586 build, too.
Is the new company look at Netscape a mullet?
mbbac
The new "AOL for Broadband" has renamed it's browser Corvair - unsafe at any speed.
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One thing open-source projects should NEVER do is rename their product to the name of ANOTHER open-source project.
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In this case, they've given it the same name as Interbase's open-source flavor.
I mean, it's plainly there on SourceForge... not like it couldn't have been researched.
http://firebird.sourceforge.net/
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See http://firebird.sourceforge.net. Geez, how rude.
Does anyone know where this bizarre name-changing ideology comes from?
The first Harry Potter book was the Philosopher's stone everywhere except the US, where it was the Sorcerer's stone. Phoenix, a mythical bird that consumed itself with fire, has been replaced with...firebird. Minotaur, a half man/half bull has been replaced with...thunderbird???
Seems like most of these name changes involve a dumbing down of the name. There are other examples around too. The question then, is WHY???
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