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Firebird Name Debate Enters a New Stage

An anonymous reader writes "As many readers will know, mozilla.org was asked to change the name for their standalone browser, Phoenix as another browser had the same name. After months of discussion, the new name was announced as Mozilla Firebird. Despite the new name being approved by AOL Legal, supporters of the FirebirdSQL database were quick to object (though the name is also used by many other people). A coincidentally named supporter of FirebirdSQL, IBPhoenix, put up a slightly immature request for their readers to participate in mass posting campaign targetting mozilla.org developers' email accounts, newsgroups and even forums at independent sites such as MozillaZine and Slashdot. FirebirdSQL's official site later reiterated this message. However, IBPhoenix have now declared this shock-and-awe stage of their campaign over, heralding it a success. Their second stage calls for a more focussed email protest at just two of mozilla.org's members: Mitchell Baker (mozilla.org's leader) and Asa Dotzler (announcer of the name change). In addition, they ask their readers to move away from 'derogatory messages' and to show more 'courtesy'. Unsurprisingly, the beleaguered admins of affected sites such as MozillaZine have welcomed this change of direction. This is getting very interesting!"

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  1. beleagured admins? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I guess Mozilla was found dead this morning :-)

  2. I got a name for em! by Nate+Fox · · Score: 5, Funny

    how bout Daawtrtdfw? Google turns up nothing, so I'm sure its not taken.

    smile, you'll live longer. :)

    1. Re:I got a name for em! by klui · · Score: 5, Funny

      New tag line: It's spelled Daawtrtdfw but pronounced Phoenix. Hell, I sure can't pronounce how it's spelled.

    2. Re:I got a name for em! by smcn · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was going to suggest TBFKAP, as in "The Browser Formerly Known As Phoenix", but can you believe it? That's taken too!

  3. No, by pb · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think that's a well-known Welsh browser, actually.

    Are you sure you weren't searching English-only? :)

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  4. Cutesy names are retarded. by juuri · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just call it "Open Source Web Browser" or "Open Browser".

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    1. Re:Cutesy names are retarded. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      The OSWB acronym is already taken by the Ophthalmological Society of West Bengal.

  5. I see it as Mozilla.org's duty by Sevn · · Score: 5, Funny

    to completely ignore these idiots and definitely
    keep the name to spite them now. It might not be
    a bad idea to write some sort of redirection or
    "pitty party" filter code that rewrites the
    offending morons websites like Opera did with
    MSN.

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  6. HotWings by sssmashy · · Score: 4, Funny

    In keeping with the Fiery Bird Motif of Firebird and Phoenix (a mythical bird that bursts into flame and is reborn)...

    May I suggest that they change the name to "HotWings" to avoid futher disputes. Has a nice ring to it, eh?

    1. Re:HotWings by version5 · · Score: 1, Funny

      I don't even want to know what fiery hot wings are reborn as after they're eaten.

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  7. Settle this like real nerds by tankdilla · · Score: 2, Funny

    they should settle this in the ring. But they're nerds, so Battlefield 1942 should be a suitable ring. Allied vs. Axis => Mozilla vs IBPhoenix. Winner gets their way.

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  8. Name propositions for Phoenix browser... by ceeam · · Score: 1, Funny

    How about Apache Navigator, PHP Explorer or plain simple MySQL?

    But I guess Phallus is still a popular favorite. :)

  9. Re:Did they trademark the name? by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1, Funny

    OTOH, I think "Firebird" and "Thunderbird" are pretty lame names, and I wish Moz would go back to the old ones.

    Like what? "Netscape 3.0 gold"?

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  10. Just name it like all unix executables by Sexy+Commando · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd pick the name "br" as my first choice. Self-explainatory, too.

  11. Re:Shock and Awe? by Draigon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where do I sign the petition to prevent the words "Shock and Awe" to ever be used together again? If I have an aneurysm, you'll know why.

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  12. New name idea... by Znonymous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's just call it "Browser" and "eMail". That's what everyone calls them anyway...

    Example

    "My browser just crashed."

    or

    "I can't check my email."

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    1. Re:New name idea... by panaceaa · · Score: 5, Funny

      We should merge both into one project called "The Internet".

      Example

      "The Internet isn't working."

      That's what everyone calls their computers anyway...

  13. A better idea- by Pettifogger · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why not pay some consulting group millions of dollars to come up with one one of those new fangled names that isn't quite a name or even word? You know, like Accenture, Altria, and all the rest. It would be just one more step towards making OSS just like the corporate giants.

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  14. Re:The new name by D+iz+a+n+k+Meister · · Score: 4, Funny

    What about Stingray?

    IMHExperience, everything named Stingray was cool, and Phoenix was definitely worthy of such a name. Firebird is a pretty weak allusion to Phoenix.

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  15. Shoulda named it "The" by diggem · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nobody can claim rights to "The." It's a freakin article! Except maybe "The The" or something. Either way, when you talk about it you'd be talking about "The Browser". Which it really is the only REAL browser, no? :)

  16. Phallus? by starvingartist12 · · Score: 4, Funny

    How about Phallus? I don't think anyone else will fight for that project name.

    I hope.

    1. Re:Phallus? by dkh2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can see the promo now...

      Mozilla Phallus It's one F#(%ing fast browser!

      Bummeroskies, Dude. The folks at slashdot have eliminated my ability to use a style="" in my <div>.

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  17. Synonyms by affenmann · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just looked up `phoenix' at thesaurus.com and it returns `phoenix` as synonyms for `ideal', `jewel', `monster', and `perfection' :-) It's a shame they can't use that name anymore.

  18. Re:I don't get it.. by moncyb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just shows how crazy the so-called IP laws have gone. Maybe I'll trademark the names Cary Sherman and Jack Valenti. Sue those bastards into the ground.

  19. Phallus was already suggested by dereklam · · Score: 5, Funny
    How about Phallus? I don't think anyone else will fight for that project name.

    In fact, it's already been suggested: Most People Agree: Phallus is a Really Bad Name for a Browser 8-)

  20. Re:Shock and Awe? by horza · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well you won't be hearing the phrase from Sony any time soon...

    Phillip.

  21. I agree... by cjpez · · Score: 4, Funny
    This is getting very interesting!
    I agree. If by "interesting" you mean "stupid."
  22. Re:Shock and Awe? by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where do I sign the petition to prevent the words "Shock and Awe" to ever be used together again?

    What's the matter? Aren't you a patriot? Guards! Seize him!

  23. Re:The new name by stuntpope · · Score: 2, Funny

    Agreed. Let's see -- people who aren't ubercool hackers discussing web browsers... "I use Explorer.. I use Navigator...hey doood, I use that bitchin' Firebird!" (yes, really should be Camaro). I expect the user to have a black muscle shirt and wear a mullet. Definitely won't get along with the Opera crowd ;)

  24. And we wonder... by Wubby · · Score: 2, Funny

    why the internet community has trouble effecting any real change in the world! Like anyone would take us seriously! I sure as hell don't.

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  25. Its obvious, Prince did it by unDiWahn · · Score: 3, Funny


    We just need to give the browser a symbol from some obscure font, and start referring to is as "The Browser formally known as Phoenix"

  26. Newsflash: new name decision! by autophile · · Score: 2, Funny
    Slashdot: April 25, 2003:

    The mozilla.org team has decided on a new name for their browser component that will avoid name conflicts with other groups. The new name, announced with little fanfare, is "Mozilla". mozilla.org management promptly started an e-mail campaign to the mozilla.org developers, claiming that the "Mozilla" name was in use by mozilla.org way before mozilla.org selected "Mozilla" as a name, and that an alternate name should be chosen.

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  27. Re:"Interesting" My Foot by N3WBI3 · · Score: 3, Funny
    How else would you explain the steady 30,000+ downloads a month for the last 18 months?

    Ok I admint it it was me I donwloaded it 28,763 times I dont know what the other 1,237 times were. I had nothing to do and I just my my BB connection in, sorry for screwing up the usage stats..

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