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Linux Gaming after Loki

mahdi13 writes "Linux Hardware has a great story about the past, present and future of Linux Gaming in 2003. They briefly touch on the commercial games available and what will be available for Linux in the near future. It is a good read and contains excellent information to keep the Linux Gamers satisfied with what is commercially available."

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  1. Satisfied? by use_compress · · Score: 3, Insightful

    keep the Linux Gamers satisfied with what is commercially available

    Come on! No Linux gamer with his stuffed penguin would say that it is possible for him to be satisfied with what is commercially available for Linux.

    1. Re:Satisfied? by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      excuse me? I am VERY satisfied that UT2003 was release with the linux client on the install disks. Granted I wanted to BEAT THEM for not supplying install instructions... I.E. "linux users look at disc 3 first" footnote in the manual.

      but I bough 2 copies of ut2003 and let them know that I bought it because they made a linux client.

      Now if we can get more good games released for linux (no not that sims crap) like ghost recon or splinter cell (Doubt it as that company is full of MS fanboys.) we will have to only have the wares of ID and the others that are foreward thinking enough to release linux clients for their games.

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    2. Re:Satisfied? by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Come on! No Linux gamer with his stuffed penguin would say that it is possible for him to be satisfied with what is commercially available for Linux.

      The only thing that is more pathetic than a Mac gamer is someone who claims to be a Linux gamer. Let's face it, if you want to play games then you need to run Windows. Like people in the TiVo thread keep saying... why waste time building a homebrew PVR when you can just buy a TiVo? Use the best product for the job. Windows is the absolute best OS out there for gaming at this point unless you want to play on a console.

    3. Re:Satisfied? by slux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I play games occasionally. There's no way I'm buying Windows and booting to it just to play a few games sometimes. I'm happy with the Linux games currently available. In fact, they're more than I need.

      I might not be a "real gamer" (used to be though), but I do play a bit and strongly object to "if you want to play games you need to run Windows". Sure, if you absolutely have to get all the latest ones that got 90%+ in game mags, then you need Windows, but the titles that you can purchase for Linux are just fine for someone who does more things than just gaming on his computer.

      We've got Heroes3, Kohan, FreeCiv, Alpha Centauri, ASC, Lgeneral - all those games have a huge replay value so I think the strategists are covered.

      We continuously get the latest in first person shooters thanks to Epic and ID.

      And now, for those who like RPG's, there's NWN which has a great multiplayer, can be written mods for. Shouldn't get old too soon.

    4. Re:Satisfied? by friedmud · · Score: 2, Interesting

      WTF are talking about?

      NWN runs BETTER in linux than it does in windows. Maybe you are using some POS videocard - but there is no reason at all for 20fps.

      I have a fairly standard rig and it runs fine:

      1.2 Ghz Athlon
      512MB RAM
      Geforce4 Ti4200

      NWN is great! Since the linux client has come out it has totally taken all of my time (yes the built in modules aren't that great - but the user created content that is out there is INCREDIBLE).

      Derek

    5. Re:Satisfied? by nathanh · · Score: 4, Funny
      Let's face it, if you want to play games then you need to run Windows.

      Gah, if you consider futzing about with drivers and patches a "game", then sure. Imagine the typical blog of a "Windows gamer":

      9:30am Back from EB with the latest WarNerds 50000. Can't wait to play it!

      9:34am Installer crashed. Downloaded the revised installer from the WarNerds website. Only 167MB! How did people get revised installers before the Internet?

      9:54am Revised installer doesn't support my video card. Luckily I have both an nvidia and an ATI card just for such emergencies. I'll swap the ATI in. Will only take a minute!

      10:37am Phew, that took longer than I expected. My water-cooling pipes were in the way of the AGP slot. I should invest in a fan-forced nuclear cooling system like everybody has at the LAN parties.

      11:12am Yay! Installer finished. Needed to switch out the nvidia drivers and install the ATI drivers first. Thankfully Windows makes this all so easy!

      11:13am Hrm, game crashed. Says my ATI video card isn't supported if I want to play with VR headsets. Oh well, I guess I'll swap the nvidia back in.

      12:22pm Lunch-time.

      1:45pm Confused!? I swapped the nvidia card back in but it still complains about my video card. I guess I'll read the WarNerds forums.

      3:12pm Ahhh! Seems I need point release 316 with hotfix 76 because I'm using Windows 2005 with SP2 BUT because I'm using an nvidia revision 4 s/n 1287461 I need to retrograde the drivers to INFUSOR 2003. Of course! How stupid of me.

      4:05pm Ok, got the INFUSOR 2003 drivers installed and game starts now, but crashes at the menu. Getting closer! I can almost taste the gameplay.

      4:57pm Hrm, don't know why, but seems removing my Firewire scanner makes it get past the menu. Strange, because the scanner wasn't even turned on. But I'm playing WarNerds 50000 right now!

      4:58pm OHMYGODTHISGAMEISGREAT. This is the world's greatest game!!! I'm so glad I bought it!!! It's like I'm living the world's greatest dream!!! It's everything they said it would be!!!

      5:18pm Finished WarNerds 50000! That game was brilliant. I'll have to get the sequel.

      If you want to play games then you get a console. They Just Work.

  2. Loki Games by feed_me_cereal · · Score: 5, Informative

    Another great place to find loki games that wasn't mentioned in the article is used bookstores. I'm not sure if they're a nation-wide chain, but Half-priced books in columbus, OH usually has a bunch of loki linux games that I guess people probably bought thinking they were windows games. You can get most of them for a buck or two. I also found copies of quake3 a year ago at microcenter for $3! Though, I suppose at this point thats probably what you would expect to pay anywhere...

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  3. "Linux Gaming" by huntz0r · · Score: 5, Funny

    is that sort of like Windows Security?

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    1. Re:"Linux Gaming" by DRO0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Except there's no icculus.org for Windows security...

  4. The Article - Unformatted For Her Pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Past
    Loki has undoubtedly become a synonym for "Linux game." While the company is long gone, their legacy lives on. Many of their works can still be had for a fair price at online vendors such as TuxGames, or at local shops which still carry older stock. I have found a number of my Loki titles at Electonics Boutique, including a tin box version of Quake 3 Arena. So which Loki-ported games were released? Which ones are still available? Well, the first question has an easy answer. If you look in the table, any game title that is still in stock is a link to its respective page on TuxGames. If there is no link, then the game is out of stock. This is not to say that you can't find it anywhere, but just that TuxGames no longer carries it.

    Alpha Centauri Civilization: Call to Power Descent 3 1
    Deus Ex 2 Eric's Ultimate Solitaire Heavy Gear II
    Heavy Metal F.A.K.K. 2 Heretic II Heroes of Might and Magic III
    Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns MindRover: The Europa Project 3 Myth II: Soulblighter
    Postal Plus Quake 3 Arena 1,3,4 Railroad Tycoon II Gold
    Rune Rune: Halls of Valhalla SimCity 3000 Unlimited
    Soldier of Fortune Tribes 2 Unreal Tournament 1,3,4
    Legend:
    1 - expansion available
    2 - unreleased
    3 - still in print, not by Loki
    4 - downloadable binaries
    As you can clearly see, there are still a good number of Loki games available. These titles won't last long, so you should order them as quickly as you can. TuxGames is not the only place that sells Linux games, but they do only sell Linux games, and game-related merchandise. It is possible that some of the titles that are no longer available can be found elsewhere. And there's always eBay, if you are comfortable with online auctions. It is unfortunate that we never got Deus Ex, but circumstances and fate prevented the game from ever being completed.

    Rune
    Some gamers don't want to buy these games, and that is fine. Not everyone appreciates every genre, and some people refuse to buy games that don't get shoved down their throats on television and Internet ads. However, for the majority of Linux gamers, the series of Loki ports includes some of the best games ever created. There is no telling what games Linux users could be playing if Loki were still around today.

    Tribsoft ported a game called Jagged Alliance II to Linux, and has since disappeared from the scene. Their domain name even points to some weird site in British Columbia now. I imagine they won't be porting any more games, but if you want a good strategy game with adventure and role-playing elements, something like Fallout, then look no further than Jagged Alliance II.

    Xatrix Entertainment developed a game called Kingpin: Life of Crime. They ported it to Linux, and if you can find a copy of the game anywhere, you may like to check out the unofficial installer, made by ravage, of icculus.org. It's worth checking out, if you like violent first-person shooter games that revolve around organized crime.

    So now that we have a good idea of what has happened in the past, let's take a look at what is going on right now in the world of Linux games.

    The Present
    So we know where Linux gamers got their roots from, but where will they go tomorrow? What is there to fill the seemingly large void left by Loki? Well, as you may have heard, there is a newer company called Linux Game Publishing, often referred to as LGP. What they do is, well, they publish Linux games. This includes titles that they port, and titles that are ported by others, just as Loki did.

    So what does LGP have in store for us? Well, for starters, Majesty has gone gold, and should be available any day now. You can pre-order it already. The game looks and plays like a cross between the best parts of Lords of the Realm 2, Total Annihilation: Kingdoms, and Age of Empires. It brings back those same feelings I used to get, and I can get lost in the gameplay for hours on end. definitely keep your eye on this game. Click here for some screenshots.

    L

  5. Freely Available by blazer1024 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've always been more into the freely available games out there when it comes to Linux.

    For big flashy commercial 3d games and such, I generally prefer Windows anyway since I know it'll work right off. (Well, usually anyway :)

    In Linux, I like those games made by people with creative minds, but not the money to try to produce a big budget game. These games are frequently much more interesting, and sometimes even more graphically appealing.. (I like cheezy 2d graphics better sometimes, especially if it's a fun game)... in fact, one of my favorite Linux games ever, Koules, had very simplistic graphics, but four of us would huddle around the KB and a joystick and play that game for hours!

    I bet you that game had a budget of $0. Development tools, graphics programs and all sorts of useful apps exist for free in Linux.. so anyone with an idea and enough spare time can make something that could be more fun to play than a game with a 10 million dollar budget.

  6. Majesty Gold will be fun by tuffy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Give the playable demo a try and see for yourself. Though most of my Linux gaming involves xmame or zsnes, when I'm not doing actual work.

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  7. Yeah by dolson · · Score: 5, Funny

    because Mac users have been playing Neverwinter Nights and UT2003 for months and us Linux users have been waiting for so long... Oh, wait...

  8. What about Transgaming by jandrese · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What, no mention of Transgaming? Sure they don't actually port the games to Linux, but if it works it works. The only big problem is that the Transgaming versions have to deal with all of the copy protection crap the Windows users have to deal with. Has a CD Key ever kept someone from pirating a game? Do any games with SafeDisc (which don't work in my computer) actually avoid being 0-day Warez? How many hours of my life have I wasted installing games only to realize that it's got another CD protection scheme that breaks in my DVD drive? How many hours of tech support time have I wasted with these problem (at least Blizzard fixed it in a patch, unlike most companies that just ignore you)[1]?
    I think Loki got it right. Too bad they were probably a bit too early (not enough users with cash) to make money. It's a shame, because the Loki versions usually ran better than the Windows versions on my machine.

    [1] Well, not too many, I usually just return the game instead.

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    1. Re:What about Transgaming by dolson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The article was about Linux games, not Windows games.

      The chances that Transgaming has had to produce native ports have gone to shit. The Sims and Kohan are WineX-based crap. I've compared their Kohan against Loki's Kohan, and Loki's doesn't crash, it's faster, smoother, and the sound doesn't ever get messed up. Not to mention that the Linux version is an actual Linux version, and doesn't require that I connect to the Internet to install or run the game.

      Sorry, but I use Linux and Linux software, not Linux and Windows software. If I wanted to run Windows software, I'd just install Windows because it runs a hell of a lot better than Wine and WineX do.

      I used to be a subscriber, and I tested over 70 of my Windows games in it. Guess how many actually ran? Seven. Guess how many locked up and forced me to reset my system? The majority. It's not worth it. I don't agree with subscription-based software, for one thing, and I don't agree with Transgaming, for another. They are bad open-source citizens, and they blatantly lied to me when they said that after a certain number of subscribers, they would release their source code to Wine. I don't care what excuses anyone makes for Transgaming; the fact is that they said it, and now they don't.

      They also lied when they said that they won't be testing games that are being ported natively... Medal of Honor is being ported to Linux right now, just as my article says, and yet Transgaming brags about how it runs in WineX. I can't count the number of people that run Quake 3 Arena in WineX... I've talked to them myself, so I KNOW that it's true. I just don't understand this.

      Furthermore, WineX hurts Linux's chances of getting native ports. Aside from the Sacrifice port which they killed, they are creating a Linux gaming community that relies on Windows and Windows software... Transgaming is always a few steps behind Windows, and always will be. What happens in a few years from now, when WineX is good enough that it can run a lot of games, and then Microsoft sues Transgaming? They aren't loyal to Linux at all - look at Gav's track record. Does Corel support Linux anymore? No. Will Transgaming? No. They simply saw a potential for cash, and they stepped in. That's all this is. What if Microsoft changes their architecture so much that Wine and WineX are rendered useless with new software? They have to start all over... And what will become of those "hardcore gamer" Linux users? They'll crawl back to Windows on their knees. And if you don't agree that one of these scenarios will happen, then you can't deny that it will hurt or kill LGP. Linux users are NOT loyal to Linux - ask what was Tribsoft or someone from Hyperion, two companies who stopped porting to Linux because so-called Linux users are too fucking cheap to buy native games, and they'd rather buy the 20-discount bin Windows versions and then use WineX or dual-boot. At least Amiga and Mac users are loyal to their operating system. They don't buy Windows software at all. They buy software for their platform. Hell, the majority of Linux users don't even pay for their distro. Hyperion has a deal now, but if they will port to Linux remains to be seen.

      The future of Linux gaming is NOT bright when you keep getting bombarded with emails and comments about WineX and playing Windows games in Linux.

      When we can run Windows games on Linux, there is no need for native ports. It's a sad, sad day. I'm very glad I bought a Playstation, because I can't see Linux gaming surviving much longer.

    2. Re:What about Transgaming by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The chances that Transgaming has had to produce native ports have gone to shit. The Sims and Kohan are WineX-based crap ... Loki's doesn't crash, it's faster, smoother, and the sound doesn't ever get messed up.

      I think you'd have more credibility for this opinion if you didn't obviously have a grudge against TransGaming. If you were a subscriber, you should have clearly known that not all games would work, in fact, probably only the ones they support would work. This is made very clear at every stage.

      They are bad open-source citizens, and they blatantly lied to me when they said that after a certain number of subscribers, they would release their source code to Wine. I don't care what excuses anyone makes for Transgaming; the fact is that they said it, and now they don't.

      I believe they said they'd release their code when they reached 20,000 subscribers. Gav did set a figure, I think that's what it was, not 100% sure. Clearly they are a long way off that figure at the moment. I'd note that TransGamimg have released large amounts of code back to WineHQ - not all of it no, but quite a bit. A lot of the DirectDraw code, the SHM wineserver (though for various reasons that wasn't merged), DCOM code etc etc.

      I can't count the number of people that run Quake 3 Arena in WineX... I've talked to them myself, so I KNOW that it's true. I just don't understand this.

      Who cares? APIs are just a set of rules about how to invoke system services. Are you going to crusade against games that don't use SDL next, for not being pure enough? You clearly don't understand the nature of the Win32 APIs if you think MS can "break" them - sure they can introduce new things, and remove things, but so can Wine, and randomly removing or changing interfaces in an OS update would just break all their customers software - they cannot do this, and never have.

      If Q3 Arena works great under WineX and they want to use it, why not? For all I know, it's easier than installing it under Linux - if they have the CD next to them, why not use it?

      Furthermore, WineX hurts Linux's chances of getting native ports.

      Nobody has ever actually proven this, it's merely conjecture. A Tale In The Desert was ported to Linux despite the fact that people were running it in Wine just fine months before the official port was ready.

      What definately does hurt Linuxs chances of native ports however are a lack of gamers. Wine can only help that situation.

      What happens in a few years from now, when WineX is good enough that it can run a lot of games, and then Microsoft sues Transgaming?

      Your paranoia is bizarre. What, pray tell, would Microsoft sue TransGaming for? Reimplementations of other companies technologies is legally established as being just fine. Wine has been around for nearly a decade, the most MS have done is put slightly dubious things in the EULAs of their own software - things that probably wouldn't stand up in court either.

      The fact is, you appear to be horrendously ill informed, paranoid and blame the economics of Linux gaming on users being "too fucking cheap". Right.

      Let me ask you this. If a game works just fine in Wine what in gods name is the justification for producing a version that uses "native" APIs? Let's conveniently ignore the fact that SDL is cross platform, hardly Linux "native". Microsoft has no control over its own APIs you realise - the most they can do is extend them, in which case new games may use technology Wine doesn't implement for a few months, but for older games they cannot be broken.

      You appear to take for granted that "native" ports are better than a version that uses the Win32 API, despite the fact that there are virtually no Linux-specific APIs around. X? Cross platform. SDL? Cross platform. GTK? Cross platform. Even GLIBC is cross platform. Your position makes no sense at all, and your wild fatalism just spreads FUD whether you intend it to or not.

  9. Last real area by rf0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I really see gaming as the last area where Linux is seriously behind Windows. We have things like WineX which allows some games to be run and of course people like ID activly support Linux. However I have a number of games that I like to play that force me to reboot into Windows just to play them.

    Ask anyone and they will say that the availability of games, and even decent graphics drivers on Linux is really behind that of Windows. So if you have the ocassional home user who want to play a games, even a demo off a cover disk they aren't going to be going for Linux are they? Mind you they could just as easy go for a PS2 :)

    rus

    1. Re:Last real area by mojowantshappy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, the nVidia drivers are overall considered better for linux... well at least by many people I know and by observing the game benchmarks over the years with UT 2003 and Q3. Also, WineX still doesn't work very well in my opinion. Usually it is only the very big games that work, or games that are based off of the Quake 3 engine. Games like Morrowind or Black and White I have found to barely work at all. To add to that, you have to pay for WineX and it is a pain in the ass to set up.

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    2. Re:Last real area by Deacon+Jones · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I really see gaming as the last area where Linux is seriously behind Windows.

      I don't feel that way.

      Let's see, OpenOffice is still a dog compared to M$ Office. It takes forever to launch, and many times just doesn't handle things as smoothly (even the positioning of bullets) that M$ Office can. Its nowhere near as robust. Granted, one can see its on track, and M$ has had quite a long time to get where it is in comparison to OpenOffice, but it is still behind.

      As well, don't forget that with any windoze program, I double click, and it installs, and finds the libraries it needs (or just installs them itself). One click. I don't have to tar xzvf filename, and then compile it. Or rpm -i filename, or urpmi -prayitfindsfilename, or whatever.

      And most linux distros are way behind font-wise. A few lately seem to have "caught up," and I would contend RH 9 is actually better looking than windoze, imho.

      Now, these issues don't make linux "behind" for me personally, as I feel that my learning (slowly) Linux has taught me more about my computer itself. But in a commericial/home user sense, Linux still has a way to go.

      And yes, games are a big deal. One could successfuly argue that upgrade mania only exists due to games, since a great majority of business apps really could have frozen their features years ago, without the "perty" looks.

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  10. The Final Barrier by Tighe_L · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am completely switched to Linux & FreeBSD for my home PCs, but my co-worker will not switch (he wants to) until he can play games like DAOC, EQ, BF1942, PlanetSide (Yes I know you can use Wine and WineX) in linux. I think the syngergyst (sp.) that could cause a switch would be a Linux Based Gaming Console. Games are the only thing keeping home M$ Windows sales up.

    1. Re:The Final Barrier by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      " Games are the only thing keeping home M$ Windows sales up."

      That's not really true. Though I agree games are an extremely attractive feature of Windows, the fact is that it's a decent OS. Lots of apps, easy to use, easy to install, lots of places to get help with it, etc. (Note: I only speak of Windows 2k and even XP, Windows 95, 98, ME, and related are complete garbage. I will not defend those flavors.)

      Linux has arguably gained ground in most of those areas, but it's still got its rough areas. It's strength in the home market is not it's CLI or it's automation or remote administration capabilities. Frankly, nobody gives a rat's ass about that. What they do care about is beinng able to do lots of stuff with their computer. They want to go to the store and buy a new game or an app. They want to buy a new doohickey like an MP3 player and connect it all up and make it work. The problem is if you go to CompUSA, there's virtually no mention of Linux.

      Linux may be superior in nearly every aspect compared to Windows, but not necessarily in the areas that are important to mass-market audiences. Frankly, I think just getting a few apps on store shelves that are just for Linux would go a long way. You'd be surprised how much perception plays a role in all this. It's not that surprising, though. For people to climb any learning curve, they need to be interested in it.

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    2. Re:The Final Barrier by BrookHarty · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Switching to Linux/Bsd/OSX full time is easy, the only time I ever go back to my windows box is for games. Pushing linux/osx on a windows gamer is the wrong direction to go. Pushing linux/osx on a person who is a desktop user is postive experience. WineX (while good) is geared towards the more techincal user, and is not yet "install and play" simple.
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  11. BZZT! Wrong by gatesh8r · · Score: 2, Informative
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    1. Re:BZZT! Wrong by gatesh8r · · Score: 2, Interesting
      There are some of us too that don't want to pony up the $200 for a half-decent Windoze XP Pro -- that just for the upgrade, or in my case, $300 because I dumped Windoze a few years ago and since I don't have 98, ME, or 2000, I'm not eligable for the upgrade. XP Home just doesn't cut it. There are those that don't want Windoze because of the privacy concerns, the security concerns, etc. For what I'd have to pay in Windoze software to help guard my system, plus the cost of the licence (which if I don't upgrade when MS wants, I pay for dearly) I can get a hell of a lot more hardware!


      One thing's for sure: TG has the balls to come out and make their product for those who would much prefer not to deal with a MS product for whatever reason. I've seen MS give the shaft to a lot of people and business in my professional carrer, and they rightfully deserve the "M$" monkier. Give TG time, and issues with it will hammer out. They've expanded the Linux gaming library quite a bit more than Loki has, along with icculus.

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  12. ut2003? by phre4k · · Score: 3, Informative

    I see no mention of ut2003 in this article. It is one of the best ports i have seen. It runs nativily on linux. The installer is even included in the retail, which imho is great.

    /Esben

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  13. Re:Personal Unix by Lxy · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's like I always say: `Kill -9 first. Ask questions later.'"

    Yes, but it doesn't roll off your tongue quite the same way.

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  14. Orbz 2.0 for Linux will be out any minute now by Dave_21-6 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    21-6 Productions is one of the studios developing games with the Torque Game Engine offered by GarageGames. It's a bit of a shameless plug, but today is the launch day for our title Orbz 2.0, which is being released for Linux, Mac, and Windows simultaneously, along with a demo for each platform.

    We really believe in developing fun and interesting games for both the Linux and Mac platforms. We don't just believe in doing so just because it's "the right thing", but also because there is money to be made. The article mentions Marble Blast, another TGE-powered title, and the Mac and Linux sales have been substantial. Certainly nothing for a small, independently-financed game studio such as ours to turn our noses up at.

  15. Re:Mutant Storm by SunPin · · Score: 2, Informative
    Clearly, you didn't look at the site and should be moderated offtopic. I don't normally respond to ACs but the point has to be made:

    The subject is commercial games.

    I'm amused by trolls when they are clever. Guess that counts this AC out.

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  16. Re:Not too happy... by WWWWolf · · Score: 2, Informative
    Still no stable NWN client.

    Oh yeah, but it runs already, sort of. Like just today I totally quit playing NWN on Windows and switched to Linux, because I got my accelerated graphics working and got far better performance than the 5 fps I pulled earlier. It was like, adding "export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1" to the nwn shell script with vim because it used the Mesa library for some reason instead of the nvidia-glx libGL.so

    I mean, it's so simple. I can't see why anyone's still using Windows for gaming.

    (Yeah, I'm inspired by that... whatever switch ad parody it was out there in the great web. But really, I'm happy that it now works and I get really amazingly smooth game. =)

  17. Tzar by StarTux · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "A while ago, Hyperion Entertainment ported both Sin and Shogo: Mobile Armor Division to Linux. While they haven't ported any games to Linux recently, they were considering porting Tzar, but Linux gamers rejected that idea. That is sad, because Linux doesn't have an overabundance of real-time strategy games at the moment. I think that we shouldn't be so choosy when it comes to what we get ported, as we are a very small market as it is. I would have liked to buy Tzar, or any RTS game for that matter. I hope that Hyperion find something to port in the near future, as well as a publisher willing to support them. The more games we get, the better!"

    Shogo had clipping issues, pretty large ones....Tzar was rejected because we're getting Disciples 2, wehich is similer but much better. Tzar didn't really offer anything unique.

    StarTux

  18. Re:Console games suck by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, but (geek)&&(!(married)) == !(laid)

  19. New stuff from Hyperion by An+Ominous+Cow+Erred · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hyperion just completed an agreement with IncaGold to bring their games to Amiga, MacOS, and Linux, the first title being Midnight Racing. Here's to giving Linux another shot. ::raises glass::

  20. Exile III by spiderweb software by ggwood · · Score: 3, Informative

    A small company called Spiderweb Software released a game for Linux called Exile III - it is similar to the classic Ultima IV or Ultima V style. It is shareware, so you can try before you buy (even for Linux). I am kind of disapointed they only released one game for Linux as they released so many for both the Mac and the PC - including scenerio design tools - and this was way before Neverwinter Nights. Sure the graphics are not overwhelming but worth a look. Here is a link to the game.

    I personally bought and played Exile I-III on the PC around 1998 and was very satisfied. Currently, there is NWN and Everquest and many others to choose from, but I felt it was the best comptuer RPG at that time.

    But the reason I bring this up is that apparently it did not sell well under Linux - perhaps it was piracy, perhaps just not enough of a user base (note: I did not play under Linux maybe it is ultra buggy or something) but for whatever reason an ideal candidate for producing Linux games was turned off.

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  21. Re:Mostly FUD by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2, Informative
    As just one example, three key pieces of DirectPlay (the pieces which cover the specifics of game connection and negotiation!) are patented. Don't believe me? Go do a patent search...

    Luckily quite a few top name game developers refuse to use DirectPlay as it requires Windows servers and too many game servers run on Linux these days to ignore.

    There could be problems with patents yes, but that's an issue for the whole of Linux (mp3, ntfs etc) not just Wine. And as SDL is simply DirectX done again, patents would cover similar Linux technologies also.

  22. Sorry. by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are incredibly, unbelievably wrong.

    Windows is not "the best OS for gaming". It is the worst, and will continue to be the worst for many years to come.

    It simply has the most commercial games available. That is important, don't get me wrong. But it's easy to imagine many of those, if not all, having superior stability and/or available resources on anything other than windows. Windows is a bad joke, and I wish you subhuman microsoft groupies would quit telling it.

  23. Unreal 2 for linux by Nurgled · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Since UT2003 is available for linux, the engine has already been ported so Unreal 2 should be an easy port. The only reason why they may not publish it for linux is due to an estimated lack of demand making it not financially worthwhile, but I suspect that even then it should be possible to just borrow the engine from UT2003 and use the Unreal 2 data and game code to play the game, since the developers seem to write everything in UnrealScript these days.

    All uninformed speculation, of course.

  24. Come on by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hunt the Wumpus and Hangman should be enough for anyone.