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DSL Hardware for Wiring Condos?

Condo-Netwerk asks: "I'm trying to prepare a proposal for my condo building to be our own DSL provider. With 160 units, we should be able to get a T1 and keep the price fairly low. But what's the up-front cost? Which hardware should we use? What do we need to know about Copper Mountain, Avidia, etc. to do our due diligence prior to selecting hardware? I'm also helping a friend spec cabling for a new 30-unit condo building he's putting up; he wants to pull cat5 and split a DSL line from the phone room to each unit. Caveats? Experiences? Is it better to use cat6 or fiber?"

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  1. Caches. by grub · · Score: 4, Funny


    Make sure you add a squid cache at the head end, you wouldn't want all your bandwidth being used up by constant goatse.cx reloads.

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  2. Think Future by Jimhotep · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fiber everywhere. Or do it later.

  3. DSL? Why? by ianjk · · Score: 2, Funny

    When Token Ring is the buzz word these days.

    DSL doesn't seem like the best way, but then again, I have cat5 running throughout my house/duplex, down halls, stairs, under doors, to my room. I had to convince the gf that she just had to 'deal with it'. (she is a neat freak)

  4. T1 eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dear Sir or Madam,
    Installing a T1 are you? Sounds like you and your tenants will be downloading music that belongs to the corporations who pay my salary. That means you have to show me all the plans for installation and install network monitoring tools supplied by those same corporations that pay my salary and sue college students. Oh, and you can not have the source code.

    Listen or pay the price,
    Hillary Rosen

  5. Re:I looked at this about a year ago... by saintjab · · Score: 2, Funny

    60+ units could make for a helluva LAN party on the weekends!

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  6. Re:My advice by Meniconi,Nando · · Score: 5, Funny

    Additionally, be prepared to deal with "concerned parents" asking you to police their children activity over the net.

  7. Forget all this "wireless or ethernet" crap... by demonbug · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just hire a guy to run around with a wheelbarrow full of CDs. The bandwidth is way higher.

  8. Re:Why DSL? by DeputySpade · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why is there no mod option for -1 self-promoting?

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  9. Re:Moderators on drugs by Pii · · Score: 2, Funny
    You're a funny guy...

    You haven't even provided a name, much less any kind of credential, testifying to your level of expertise.

    You have a cursory understanding of the OSI model, which is great in preparing for th Net+ exam, I suppose, but really doesn't qualify you to sift through postings on Slashdot, and determine who does, and does not, know what they are talking about.

    I've been working exclusively in the network space for the past 13 years, primarily with Cisco routers and switches for the past 9. I've built networks for Fortune 10 companies, and Government agencies.

    • When your bank uploads its financial transaction information to the Federal Reserve every night, that data goes across a network that I built.
    • When you filled out your application for a US Passport, a scanned image of that document traversed a network at the State Department that I built.
    • When a Telco switch in Saudi Arabia experiences some kind of difficulty, error messages and telemetry data ride back to the central montitoring center in Riyadh across a network that I built.
    • When government offices in remote villages in Afghanistan place their VoIP or Video conferenceing calls back to Kabul, that data rides over a network that I built.

    Ever build a campus network for a 70 building, 10,000 user Marine Base? I have.

    Ever build a network for a 30 Campus University? I have.

    Ever configured a 1500+ site frame relay network? I have.

    Tell me something about BGP community settings, or Multi-Exit Descriminators? Tell me something about IS-IS, the only interior routing protocol that is capable of handling the entire BGP table when redistributed into it. Tell me about Type-7 LSAs, or the trouble with OSPF in NMBA environments. Tell me about tuning Spanning-tree in my campus. Tell me about NBAR, CBAC, and Reflexive access-lists.

    Last but not least... Please, Sir, tell me more about how there's no such thing as a Layer-3 switch... I so much want to learn.

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