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William Gibson on Blogging

The Ape With No Name writes "With Pattern Recognition now out, Gibson talks to the Guardian about blogging, which ones he's looking at and why he may have to quit blogging himself. He's quoted as saying '...if I'm ever going to write another book, I'm going to have to quit doing my blog as I have a hunch it interferes with the ecology of being a novelist.'"

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  1. Blogging ruining his flow as a writer... by Flounder · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Definitely writing a blog is different than writing a novel. Blog is more of a stream of consciousness / random synaptic firing kinda thing. While with a novel, you've gotta keep the entire story in mind while writing.

    Could going back to the stream of consciousness style actually screw you up when trying to write a novel??

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    1. Re:Blogging ruining his flow as a writer... by tjensor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Like Jack Kerouac's on the road then. Hey - maybe that was the first ever Blog.....

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    2. Re:Blogging ruining his flow as a writer... by noewun · · Score: 3, Informative
      Possibly, but it depends on the writer. We're all different, and what works for one won't necessarily work for the other.

      Personally, I find that I don't blog or anything like that because I don't have all that much interesting to say on a day to day basis, and what I do have to say I put into other forms.

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    3. Re:Blogging ruining his flow as a writer... by tankdilla · · Score: 5, Interesting

      William Faulkner is a famous author whose novels contain moments when one or more pages is a continuous stream of consciousness. It ends up looking like he went off on a tangent and then got back to the story. Takes a good bit of focus to keep the plot in mind while going through someone else's stream of consciousness. I remember re-reading passages several times making sure I didn't miss something important.

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    4. Re:Blogging ruining his flow as a writer... by maxpublic · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was thinking it was more of an egotistical, self-important, usually angst-ridden form of self-worship. But I guess YMMV.

      Max

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    5. Re:Blogging ruining his flow as a writer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Think you are tough? Try Finnegans Wake.

      James Joyce was doing hypertext, blogging and all that a century ago.

    6. Re: Blogging ruining his flow as a writer... by Omniscient+Ferret · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't think the stream-of-consciousness thing is the problem, although I'm sure lots of preparation is useful for those sections.

      At a signing, Gibson said that he felt that stories were more convincing when drawn from reality; lots & lots of detail lead to a more immersive work. He's writing about something he finds an interesting detail either way. What he writes in the blog could well have gone into a novel instead, & so the blog sort of interferes.

    7. Re:Blogging ruining his flow as a writer... by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I decided a while back that James Joyce just isn't woth it...life is too short and there are many other, better things to read.

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    8. Re:Blogging ruining his flow as a writer... by ProfKyne · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm not sure how the web factors into "On the Road", which was certainly a log, I don't know about blog.

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      "First you gotta do the truffle shuffle."
  2. The main problem with Blogs by Boss,+Pointy+Haired · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is too much Amateur Philosophy.

    1. Re:The main problem with Blogs by nomadic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Too much Amateur Everything.

    2. Re:The main problem with Blogs by jkrise · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And here I thought Proffessional Philosophy was an Oxymoron :-(

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    3. Re:The main problem with Blogs by Cedric+C.+Girouard · · Score: 3, Funny
      And here I thought Proffessional Philosophy was an Oxymoron :-(

      I've got a friend with a degree in ... you guessed it ... Philosophy. They way he explained it to me is "I don't have a job. But I can explain you why at great lenght."

      I guess it makes sense...

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      Marriage is considered capital punishment for the theft of a goat in some third world countries...

    4. Re:The main problem with Blogs by Hast · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I think nerds should get out and read some real writing, not just Gibson, Stephenson etc. They don't say anything very much, and you`d be missing out on some classics.

      I partially agree with this. There's a lot of really good books out there, and going for the "classics" is a good way to find good books fast.

      In general I find SF books more interesting than most books though. I just read a note by Philip K Dick were he pretty much nailed it with the comment that most stories are more about style than content. This makes for interesting reading, but not much thinking.

      If I want interesting ideas I'd rather pick up a SF book I'm recommended than a typical classic. And often that is because since the book is a "classic" the provocative ideas in it are not really all that provocative any longer. Swift, Voltaire and such classical authors spring to mind. While "Candide" is a good book and was (at the time) provocative I find the ideas now are more interesting from a historical perspective than as ideas.
    5. Re:The main problem with Blogs by Hast · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry, I don't recall an SF book like that.

      By PKD I can recommend you to read a couple of short stories. "We can remember it for you wholesale" (Total recall), "Minority report" are two big ones that got turned into movies. Basically there's a very large amount of good short stories he's written. Novellas I can recommend Ubik, and I've heard good things about "Flow my tears the policeman said" and some other I can remember the name of. (Ckeck Amazon and you should get some ideas.) PKD has some of the most intersting ideas I've read in a long time. SF version of Kafka on a bad trip basically. (And I mean that in a good way ;-)

      Perhaps I should also point out that while I agree that a lot of people who read SF and Fantasy could use reading more mainstream literature I think it would be even better if those who only read mainstream would start reading SF.

    6. Re:The main problem with Blogs by zdislaw · · Score: 2, Interesting
      William Faulkner (the sound and the fury)

      Beware. If you have spent the last few years reading Gibson considering him a "treasure" to the english language, then attempting to digest "The Sound and the Fury" could cause you physical harm. One of the greatest books written, this is not light reading. Could sprain your brain right before it expands your horizons. For those of us who enjoy brain sprain through literature, this is near the pinnacle.

      "As I Lay Dying," also by Faulkner is one of my favorite books.

      "Darkness at Noon" by Arthur Koestler is another brilliant read (kind of along the lines of Orwell's 1984) set in 1930s Soviet Union.

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  3. steganography, reviewers and dictionaries.... by girl_geek_antinomy · · Score: 2, Funny

    There was an early review of Pattern Recognition in one of the UK broadsheets where the (female, as it happens) reviewer was complaining that she didn't like it, didn't understand it, and it was unfair to expect anyone to understand what 'steganography' was. She couldn't go and find a dictionary?

    I'm really looking forward to reading it, when I can find someone to borrow it off :)

    1. Re:steganography, reviewers and dictionaries.... by Afrosheen · · Score: 5, Informative

      Don't waste your time. Actually, if you're a big fan of his older stuff (Neuromancer, Mona Lisa Overdrive, Burning Chrome, etc) then you'll probably hate it. I thought he started losing it around the time of All Tomorrow's Parties (but I doubt anyone here would agree with me) and this book continues in the same wandering, aimless, boring prose. Gone is his trademark mile-a-minute, high tech crime and criminals, ultra-cool underworld, replaced with a cleaner view of tomorrow.

      Come on. It's based on the premise of someone releasing video clips onto the internet and people finding them. There's a whole cult following, and a marketing mogul catches wind of it and finances the main character so she can get to the root of it. Bor-ing. But since ATP was so bad, I decided to give him another chance. Never again, Mr. Gibson. At least I have the older books to remember when he was great.

      BTW nazi mods, this isn't a troll. Take it with a grain of salt.

    2. Re:steganography, reviewers and dictionaries.... by Nerant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      IMHO:
      I find that in his latest books, namely All Tomorrow's Parties and Pattern Recognition, Gibson has moved away from his previous style of "dark cyberpunk". Instead, he explores in detail how technology has social reprecussions.
      In ATP, it was a basically about how the matrix of that future made it possible for certain individuals to see future change:ie. Laney. He doesn't emphasize it very much, but what this change in ATP was the advent of nano-fabrication, which is why in the last chapter he talks about how a watch is restored using nano-technology.
      In Pattern Recogniton, it is all about the Internet. How messageboards/forums appeal to introverts like Cayce. Even key events, such as the list of numbers hidden in the fragments of the video clips were obtained through F:F:F.
      Remember the girl who Taki thought was a japanese school girl but was actually a bartender they took a picture of to get him to give Cayce the numbers? Later on this girl (Judy Tsuzuki) finds out about the whole scam and falls in love with Taki, or so she professes. Someone she has never met before.
      And in the ending, he reveals to us that Cayce has hooked up with Parkaboy in a boy-girl relationship. So, i feel that Pattern Recognition is more a commentary on how the Internet has allowed introverts to go about forming human relationships in a non-conventional way, rather than a dark and sharp cyberpunk thriller.

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    3. Re:steganography, reviewers and dictionaries.... by Afrosheen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Part of his 'dark cyberpunk' appeal in his past books was indeed the social repercussions of technology and how it affected both micro and macrocosms. In Neuromancer, Case was a loner, a hacker and a drug addict and ended up getting fried trying to crack a system. Alot of his friends ended up getting flatlined also. This paralleled the do-no-harm crackers back in the day (think Free Kevin) that really didn't damage systems, just explored them and exploited them. Ultimately Case wasn't in it for the money, he was in it for the challenge, the thrill of the hunt. 99% of real 'hackers' are in it for the same reason (and yes I know the difference between hacker and cracker). Gibson really distilled the cracker/hacker ethic at the time of that novel and focused it into a well-rounded character.

      Gibson has always been about exploring social connotations of technical evolution; hell, the whole genre is about that. Asimov had his decades of exploring the concept of humans living with robots and the pitfalls and joys they might encounter. Gibson now seems to be taking less the position of fortune teller and more the position of commentator on our times. Unless you're living in a coma, PR won't come as a surprise, and it's version of tomorrow could literally be tomorrow.

      Call me old fashioned, but I liked his writing better when he wrote about the gritty, dirty underworld of the supercool. Maybe he SHOULD stop blogging. ;)

    4. Re:steganography, reviewers and dictionaries.... by Hobbex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Remember the girl who Taki thought was a japanese school girl but was actually a bartender they took a picture of to get him to give Cayce the numbers? Later on this girl (Judy Tsuzuki) finds out about the whole scam and falls in love with Taki, or so she professes. Someone she has never met before.

      Remember the story a year of so ago, here on Slashdot, about the guy on the (gaming I think) message board that made a female character, then made up his own relationship with her, and finally , when he got bored of the charade, wrote her out by having her die in a car crash. When the story came out much later (somebody recognized that the picture of the girl was from a porn movie) the people on the board were extremely upset, because they had felt real grief at the death of somebody who never existed in the first place. That anecdote asks questions a thousand times more profound about the nature of human identity and existence then anything in PR, and that actually happened.

      The problem with Gibson's attempt at a Couplandesque contemporary commentary about the Internet is that it simply isn't profound. In "Iduro" it was supposed to be amazing that a character who claimed to be in a street gang on the Internet, turned out to be an invalid - I mean, can you believe that people don't know you're a dog! In Coupland's Microserfs, one of the characters falls in love with somebody in a chat room, and decides he wants to spend the rest of his life with them, without knowing anything about the person, not even the sex. That is an example of the way we define our relationships with others challenged and turned on it's head by this new form of connectivity - nothing in PR says anything new about life in the connected age.

      And aside from the fact that the sensation of somebody's film fragments getting an online following is slightly less amazing then the flash success of "Am I Hot or Not!", PR reads like a Roberta Williams adventure game - Casey goes around "clicking" on random people which leads to conversations that solve puzzles in ridiculously convoluted ways. I and probably a thousand other people with me on this site alone could have done a better job tracing the source of uploads then what the characters in PR do. The reference to steganography seems thrown in for nothing other than to give an appropriate way for a bunch of random people to pop up and help Casey solve an easy problem backwards.

      I still find Gibson's prose amazing, and that was enough for me to enjoy the better part of this book, but he either needs to go back to writing high paced exciting books set in worlds more interesting then advertising agencies, or he needs to actually start thinking about the true implications of the sociological shifts that he is trying to comment.

    5. Re:steganography, reviewers and dictionaries.... by TaliesinWI · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would agree with you in the "losing it" department, but for me the slide started happening way earlier - although I can't decide if he was "slipping" in Difference Engine (because he was collaborating with Sterling) or Virtual Light. But by Idoru, I had a classic case of "who the fuck cares" by midway thru the book. I haven't touched ATP or Pattern Recognition yet, and if I do I'll probably check them out from the library first - I have better ways to spend my book budget than on authors who seem to be on a downward spiral.

  4. The article is not about blogging by MoThugz · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...but the internet in general. His fav sites, his thoughts on the blogging phenomenon, even googling, while we're at it.

    In fact, the gist of the article is about sites he likes and visits often...

    Err, and it's not even an article per se... shouldn't this be categorized under Interviews instead?

  5. FYI by Wicked+L · · Score: 5, Informative

    William Gibson's blog is located here: http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/blog/blog.asp

  6. meaning changed by John_Renne · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At first I considered a blog as somekind of diary people would keep online. The main reason people would read blogs was inspired by some kind of voyeurism. Nowadays most blogs are just a view on todays (or yesterdays) news. People nowadays read blogs to read the headlines and possibly different opinions .

    I've once started a blog myself. Didn't last too long. The process of starting on including installing etc. was more fun to me than writing in it every day ;-)

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  7. Puff piece by Potor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not Gibson's fault, but that article was useless. Strafor, cnn, bbc, google ... wow, you've opened my mind to some new sites, Guardian! And as for Gibson's 'insights'into blogging ... . I imagine that a much more interesting interview was left on tape.

  8. Manufactured terms by erl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, one thing I like about Gibson's style is how he uses invented terms - some you can guess from their morphology what they mean, others you can't.

    So you form an idea of what each word seems to mean out of the context - like you do when you hear a novel word.

    Finally most if not all of the new terms are explained a little while after they are first used, giving an interesting experience of how your deduced meaning matches the intended one.

  9. Discipline by djupedal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...is simply being able to remember your goal.

    Blogging is the antithesis of goal driven composition, and it's about time this was understood.

  10. Re:Another novel? by Kwil · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I take it you don't like a lot of original speculative literature then.

    Things like A Clockwork Orange, some of Kurt Vonnegut's stuff (Cat's Cradle comes to mind), a good chunk of Tolkein, all with invented words must be just horrid for you.

    Ah well, somebody has to buy the mainstream stuff, right?

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  11. Re: TAKE OFF EVERY BLOG by croddy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    the main problem with blogs is that, as far as google is concerned, they masquerade as useful information when all they contain is idle chatter. and through some fluke of their evil software, they seem to get indexed really fast, so when a major political or social even happens, google is noised to the brim with blogs and you have to start at result number 40 or so before you get past the blogs.

    I can get a google search with porn turned off; why can't I get blogs turned off too?

  12. Hold on now... by Redking · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think this is too broad of a generalization. Sure some blogs are the typical, "what I did today" or "pictures of my cat" but some blogs are informative and can reveal things deep in a person's soul that you would never realize. Sometimes there is something therapeutic about letting your thoughts and emotions flow even if it's just strangers reading them.

    rk

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  13. blogging gets in the way of writing? by Tony+Laszlo,+Tokyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does blogging aversely affect the professional writer's writing? The Guardian interview touches on an important question, but only briefly - this is one that should probably be tackled by a team of researchers. When I started up a simple blog-on-a-Wiki last December, I was a bit plagued by a similar question:
    Why would writers write in their free time?
    For me, as long as I can get away with taking one or even two week breaks from the blog, it is not a problem. "Write when you need to, blog when you can," is about where I find myself at the moment.

    1. Re:blogging gets in the way of writing? by Bartmoss · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why would IT guys fiddle with computers in their spare time? I have no answer... I still do it. I guess I have no life. Big surprise, that.... not. :)

    2. Re:blogging gets in the way of writing? by samael · · Score: 2, Informative

      Neil Gaiman's latest journal entry touches on this very topic - inspired by Bill Gibson's interview.

  14. I can understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am supposed to writing a ten page history paper right now, but no, what am I doing, posting on Slashdot instead. Blogging, posting to forums, watching Bill O'Reilly just to get angry, they are all more interesting distractions than writing a book or a paper because they are easier and don't require as much energy. If you get all your emotion out on the little stuff, you have nothing left for the book.

  15. rivetting read by rockedbottom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    *yawn*
    The kind of article/interview that would put anyone off Gibson forever. I'm so glad i just finished reading the brilliant Virtual Light trilogy, before finding out that he visits bbc, cnn and google. If those were the most interesting sites he could think of, it probably means he sticks to surfing pr0n only.

  16. Call me cynical by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if I'm ever going to write another book, I'm going to have to quit doing my blog as I have a hunch it interferes with the ecology of being a novelist

    Personally I found this pretentious bollox. Smacks more of an author trying to cash in on the current albeit dying fad of blogging to help promote his new book.

    Newsflash William. Writing juvenile gibberish on a web page is not a form of higher art. Stick to the novels.

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    1. Re:Call me cynical by y0bhgu0d · · Score: 5, Insightful

      sounds like flamebait to me. i'll bite.

      how exactly is blogging dying? from everything i have observed, weblogs (on whatever issue; politics, technology, religion, personal) have been getting more popular. in fact, when america attacked iraq back in march, several "warblogs" carried unbiased information about what was going on. these places got millions of hits per day when conflict broke, and they might have been getting a couple hundred a day before that.

      blogging is far from dying ;)

      also, gibson usually gets rather deep with his entries, more of an insight into his mind than a "OMFG taht chick r0xx0rz :O :O :O"

      *shrug*

    2. Re:Call me cynical by wantedman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Blogging is dying in the greater sense. Like indepentant music, or internet porn, it is getting harder and harder seperate the wheat from the chaff. With millions of blogs, and millions more expected, how am I going to find a new, *good* blog?

      Overall, blogging seems to be becoming like thousands of nameless porn sites, barely scrapping by, while the established few continue to make money, baised on name alone.

  17. hold on a second! by TheRealRamone · · Score: 2, Funny

    "... he jammed the simstick down as he entered..."
    a simstick is, quite obviously, a stick of single inline memory! what r u... a dimm-wit :?}

    --TRR

  18. He mentioned this... by Senjaz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    He mentioned this before at least at the book signing in Birmingham if not before then too.

    He said it's difficult because the 'blog provides an outlet for your thoughts and material, it doesn't have chance to accumulate.

    So he doesn't 'blog when he is writing, that gives him chance to fill a store of thought enough to fill a book.

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  19. Authors' blogs by Omniscient+Ferret · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One can blog just to get stuff out to the public, and get a bit of a response. Gibson said during a reading that he felt that blogging was too fun; it didn't feel like work. Even interracting to two or three dozen people in a blog struck him as a time sink.

    Neil Gaiman is writing very conversationally, responding to questions. (In verifying the address, I noticed he has written about this topic already.)

    Elsewhere, Warren Ellis & Bruce Sterling are just commenting on stuff that comes up as they research their upcoming work. Cory Doctorow (and co.) & Charlie Stross just have more varied interests than Gibson, I guess. And hell, the way they're working on a new story is in a blog.

    Um. I feel weird that I'm pointing out so many examples. I read all these regularly, though.

  20. The Guardian by aeolist · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article's small and content free because it's designed to be not much more than a sidebar: the Guardian (Britain's major left-liberal daily) publishes one of these micro-interviews every week, with the same sort of blah questions ("Most useful site?" "Google", invariably). It makes more sense in the print version of its tech supplement, where it acts as normal space-filling journalism, and usually a plug for book, album, site, whatever.
    Also, The Guardian is absolutely obsessed with blogs. Every week, the supplement will feature one of the following articles: "Are Blogs the new Journalism?", "Wi-Fi Blogging - Is this the Future for Reporting?", "Blogging - Journalism for Everyone?", etc., ad nauseam.
    The last decent one I remember is Dave Green being cynical.

  21. Re: TAKE OFF EVERY BLOG by A+non+moose+cow · · Score: 2, Informative

    In your search string, add the term -blog

  22. Niche Blogs by nilepoc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is another aspect to blogging that I haven't seen mentioned in this discussion. Blogs can be a good way to see what it is like to pursue something you are considering. That is why I keep my blog. When I figured out what I want ed to study for graduate school, I went out and tried to find some first person accounts of what it is like to become a Nurse Anesthetist. I bet most of you have not even heard of one. Anyway, it was difficult at best, to hook up with one, let alone find out how school was for them. So When I started school, I started a blog to let people know what anesthesia school was like.

    Anyway, I guess I am trying to say that not all blogs are just random thoughts about how someones school lunch smelled like a nursing home.

  23. Pournelle proves you can... by [amorphis] · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't see that anyone's mentioned Jerry Pournelle yet.

    Somehow he finds time to write novels while running a very insightful blog, writing a column for Byte, keeping active in the amatuer aerospace community, and generally having a life. I don't know how he does it, epecially at his age.

    He proves that blogs and more, the internet, can coexist with real life(tm)
    (for authors at least).

  24. What a strange analogy! by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny
    the ecology of being a novelist

    Does that mean the process of being a novelist involves eating your way up the food-chain until you either die or are excreted back to the bottom? :^)

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    One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  25. Blogging is a waste of time by TheRealBeale · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although I keep what you might call a blog on my own computer, it's more a private diary or journal than a blog. I kept a diary on paper for 10 years and have moved over to this system for numerous reasons. I think that blogs take away the integrity of a diary. A good diarist doesn't write for an audience, only for himself. Samuel Pepys' diaries have worth because he writes without the bias you would expect in a blog, where the writer may have an agenda or an axe to grind. I wouldn't look to blogs for facts and nor would I trawl through one looking for a stranger's opinion when I'm more likely to find the quality and breadth of opinion in a forum. Blogs seem to me to be there for egotists who feel they have an audience when they post to a webpage - often enough the quality of the writing isn't of a good standard. Things my girlfriend and I have argued about is an exception however. Well written and very funny.

  26. Re: TAKE OFF EVERY BLOG by redtail1 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Good idea, but the problem is that the line between blogs and news sites is blurring more every day. One man's navel gazing is another man's news source. Who is to say that a columnist is "hard news" when her personal slant and opinions about the topic she is writing about resemble a blog?

    Come to think of it, the main difference between blogs and other sources of information are editors. I think we all need one.

  27. why blogging is good by mboedick · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The most important thing about blogging IMO is that it allows the average person to easily be a producer on the net instead of just a passive consumer (ala TV). Weblogs also allow for the publication of very obscure and specific content that would not exist otherwise (such as a weblog about various things to wget and curl).

    Sure, there is a lot of crap in blogs, but everyone has something worthwhile to say once in a while. There are a lot of very smart people who write weblogs.

    Those who think blogging is pretentious should read the following entry on Dave Winer's Scripting News.

    Those in power always resist something new that empowers the masses in what was formerly their exclusive domain (such as news organizations suppressing the weblogs of reporters, and elitist intellectuals who think expressing opinion should be their privilege only).

  28. Re:Perhaps he should keep writing in his weblog by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 2, Funny

    James Joyce = overrated. Overrated is James Joyce. It was a dark and overrated night. A shot rang out. James Joyce screamed. "Is there an overrated author in the house?" [J. Joyce steps forward].

    At least he did give us the term quark:

    Three quarks for Muster Mark!
    Sure he hasn't got much of a bark
    And sure any he has it's all beside the mark."