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Internet + Wireless Cameras = Homeland Security

NumberField writes "According to an article by Steven Levy posted on MSNBC, Jay Walker of PriceLine fame is talking about a system he calls US HomeGuard. His plan is to hire large numbers of unsophisticated users to monitor Internet-connected security cameras looking for suspicious activity. Although many security details (i.e., DOS attacks, cryptography, privacy) need to be handled carefully, it's a weird enough idea that it might actually work..."

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  1. Sign me up by ArmenTanzarian · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm graduating and I don't have a job yet. Define unsophisticated... Sounds like a great job, all the fun of being a rent-a-cop without the worry of ever having to stop anyone or get beaten up!

  2. Super! by CommieBozo · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Unsophisticated" people being paid twice their wages at Burger King will protect me by spotting terrorists from the privacy of their own homes!

  3. PriceLine + Cameras = ?? by bedurndurn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sweet, now I can bid $5 dollars / hour to watch hot co-eds in the shower instead of paying conventional webcam fees. Thank you PriceLine!

    1. Re:PriceLine + Cameras = ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      All we have to do is get some sororities classified as top-secret government installations, and you've got a plan there, bub.


      Come on now! You didn't really think the U.S. government was paying $1500 USD for toilet seats, did you?
  4. Sounds great by pubjames · · Score: 5, Funny

    Although many security details need to be handled carefully, it's a weird enough idea that it might actually work...

    Yes, sounds like a great idea! It could be very useful where I live. We've got new neighbours, and I think they might be muslims. They're definately foreign, anyway. I don't have the time to sit at the window all day looking for suspicious activity, so if we put a web cam up it would make it a lot easier. God Bless America!

  5. Cue large amounts of lawsuits by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 1, Funny
    ...against voyeurs
    ...against stalkers
    ...for false allegations made by watchers
    ...by Logitech et. al. as they realise *noone wants a cam any more

    I mean come on. Is this meant to be a satire comparing the modern state to Orwell's 1984 (also with monitored cams in the home) or have things really become that bizarrely stupid?

    Criminal guide to avoiding measure (sorry if this is too subversive):
    Step 1: Don't make evil plans near a webcam or mike.
    Step 2: Don't perform evil plans without mask if near said webcams.
    Step 2: Profit! from misdeeds.

    If you use this guide while copying music, does this mean I have broken the DMCA?

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  6. reality TV by oooooops · · Score: 2, Funny

    so basically he's going to have the Reatlity TV channel online and you can win fun prizes at home by spotting suspicious activity ...

  7. Moderation system by maharg · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see it now

    +5: Suspicious

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    @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
  8. Joe Blog won't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Joe Blog thinks the world cares about him, that's why he blogs, right? If someone pays him to look at someone else his whole world will collapse. He won't be the very center of the whole universe any more!

    Instead, you need to worry about Joe Fetishist.

    But it still won't matter, as the diagram I've drawn below shows:

    LLLLLLLLL
    LLLLLLLLL
    LLL**LLLL
    LLL**LLLL
    LLLL LLLLL

    * - camera window
    L - p0rn window

    Note that the p0rn window is on top of the camera window, which is only shown for the relative size.

  9. Excellent! by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 0, Funny

    Now I'm just need to figure out a way to justify monitoring the sorority bathrooms for suspicious activity, then I'll sign up for watching yanks.

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    Stop the brainwash

  10. Re:oh boy by mattgarnsey · · Score: 2, Funny

    unsophisticated users, eh?

    little brothers are watching you...

  11. Helpdesk Warriors! by Sirch · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can see all the arguments for and against this system, and while it is obviously well-intentioned, I find it a bit disturbing. It's all well and good sticking security cameras around the place and putting trained security individuals in charge of watching them, but this sounds like a helpdesk thing - they get a small amount of "training" and then they're released out into the real world, with a wizard to help them.

    "Is there a person on the camera?" Yes

    "Are the person's eyes looking shifty?" Yes

    "Is this person wearing all black?" Yes

    "Is the person carrying something?" Yes

    "Alert the authorities that a Muslim individual is walking around in the local supermarket carrying military-grade C4 explosives! Query the man through the loudspeaker. Don't believe him if he says he's doing his shopping! Don't accept any other explanations he gives! You are ALWAYS right, and even if you aren't, this wizard IS!"

    Orwellian nightmare?

    1. Re:Helpdesk Warriors! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      ... carrying military-grade C4 explosives...

      As opposed the C4 Lite for use in home and office?

  12. Re:Sigh.. by Seth+Finklestein · · Score: 1, Funny

    You know, I was just talking about this over coffee with my good friend Bill Brown. He runs a tour of New York's security cameras, so that protesters such as myself can easily point out the cameras and mock them. I've been going on this tour every week with Dr. Brown, and every time he has even more incisive insights.

    As a very famous cybersecurity researcher, I feel that I am highly qualified to talk about Homeland Security. My deep knowledge of computers -- which came with no formal training, just my own intelligence -- can easily be applied to solving real-world security problems. My award-winning research has led to landmark decisions in the field of security.

    I have the right to control every aspect of my identity, both in "interspace" and in "meat-space." When someone takes a picture of me in the real world, I have every right to walk up to that person and shout at them until they agree to delete the picture from their "mini-hard drive card" or burn the film in front of me. I know that most of you don't have to deal with these issues on a daily basis, but of course most of you are not prominent cybersecurity researchers such as myself.

    Visit my web site -- do revisit, I've added a lot lately. And oh yeah, down with Michael Sims, who stole the Censorware Project from me as if it were candy and I were a baby! I'm not a baby.

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    I'm not Seth Finkelstein. I still speak the truth.
  13. Not a patentable process, is it? by captainfugacity · · Score: 2, Funny

    Previous work by George Orwell supercedes the patent on this process, right? Thank god, we don't have to worry about seeing this topic as a privacy AND copyright issue.

  14. Re:Stupid idea by British · · Score: 1, Funny

    $8-$10 per hour to sit at home and wait for a web-cam shot to analyse?

    Ha in S0viet Jennicam, you pay 8-10$ to watch webcam!

  15. In Soviet Russia... by skraps · · Score: 1, Funny

    the cameras monitor YOU!

    Oh wait, we'll have that too.

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  16. There's a guy... by TrueWest175 · · Score: 1, Funny

    He's standing on the corner. No wait! He's moving. Now's he's stopped again. He keeps checking his watch! I think he's up to something. No? You're sure? Dang! OK, I'll call you back.

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  17. Re:Suspicious? by morcheeba · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, you were suspiciously absent from this year's Loyalty Day. Surely you knew about this, or else we'd have to send you to the "Our Documents" re-education class. See ya next year!

  18. I've got a better idea by kipple · · Score: 4, Funny

    let's put a webcam at every corner in public places, then put a sign under the webcam stating its ip address (maybe ipv6 would help).
    Now everybody with an internet connection can watch any webcam at any time.
    Since it would be impossible to know who is watching the camera that's above your head, everybody will become a good and productive dron^H^H^H^Hcitizen.

    oh, and the paranoia that would arise shortly after will be defined as anti-American: if you don't have anything to hide, you don't have to worry about anything.

    say welcome to the new Privacy era!

    ps: this is supposed to be a joke. If you don't get it, don't care about it.

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    -- There are two kind of sysadmins: Paranoids and Losers. (adapted from D. Bach)
  19. Re:Wow and now we have a nation of lurkers by Kaki+Nix+Sain · · Score: 3, Funny
    Yeah the idea of slippery slopes is neat. First it gets used in appropriate discussions. Then it gets used when it might somewhat be related. Then it starts getting used when it only seems a little out of place. And pretty soon everyone and their mother is making up rediculous slippy slopes to use in every discussion, rendering impossible sane discussions on the pros and cons of anything.

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    (C) Kaki Sain, 2011. By reading this, you have illegally copied my property to your brain.

  20. Re:Propaganda of the powerful will cause rejection by Steve+B · · Score: 2, Funny
    I see this country as an asset that I own jointly with the other American citizens

    Well, we obviously need to beef up security, inasmuch as the existing system has clearly failed to keep out the Communists....

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  21. Re:Sigh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
  22. Homeland Security? Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Internet + Wireless Cameras = Cheap Porn =)

  23. I got it all planned now... by unicron · · Score: 2, Funny

    I honestly and completely believe that Charlize Theron is a threat to my homeland. I will watch her home day and night if I have to! That is my dedication to this country!

    I also believe that most terrorists do their planning in bed and while taking a shower, so rig the cameras accordingly. Also, I'm going to need them to be zoom-capable so that I can intercept messages she may be writing.

    Should the time come when I need knock out gas and a full insertion team, I'll contact you.

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  24. Re:At least it should be. by canajin56 · · Score: 2, Funny

    They'd never get away with it. There would be a HUGE investigation! Just like after 9/11.....oh....wait

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