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Install An Xbox/Linux Media System In Your Car

AltGrendel writes "Bored during those rush-hour traffic jams? An enterprising UK geek has installed an Xbox/Linux system in his car. With a mod chip, Freevo, a LogiTech Wingman, and a 40 gig hard drive, he has access to music, video, and games during drive time. Details and pictures are here."

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  1. car crashes? by YahoKa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And we thought cell phones were bad. Just wait 'till we all have full multimedia systems in our cars.

    1. Re:car crashes? by ethx1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is not supposed to be some groundbreaking achievement. It is just a story of a bored guy and his xbox. The /. review says so too.

  2. I hope he has an airbag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because if he's playing while driving, he's going to need it.

  3. Forget the Xbox mod... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How the hell did you mod the steering wheel to the passenger's side... details man details!!!

    1. Re:Forget the Xbox mod... by Jason1729 · · Score: 5, Funny

      He just mirrored the image.

      Jason
      ProfQuotes

    2. Re:Forget the Xbox mod... by Rellik66 · · Score: 5, Funny

      How do you know you weren't looking at a mirror site?

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  4. Ideal use for an xbox by Dajur · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Those things are perfect $200 media servers. Even if it dies early from the hostile environment of a car, they are cheap to replace.

    1. Re:Ideal use for an xbox by rkz · · Score: 2, Informative

      for 50£ you can get a barebones system, then you can add a VIA 800MHZ processor and some RAM/Hard Drive that you steal from work! for less than £100 a MEDIA server which is much better than the xbox.

  5. The only thing he needs now is... by Justin205 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... a way to use his car's steering wheel for racing games, and a way to make his windshield the TV/monitor screen. I hope when he does this, he will remember a cutoff switch, so he doesn't go barreling down the highway at 200 kph, as if he were being chased by the police, or something.

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  6. here's a mirror by abhisarda · · Score: 4, Informative

    I put up a mirror.

  7. I tried an in-car media server for a while, by Freston+Youseff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    but then realised how cumbersome the setup is. Anything short of a custom LCD driver and navigation buttons is terribly unnecessary, in my humble opinion. Commercial solutions, even for MP3 stuff, are preferred by myself.

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  8. Re:OMG - his wheel is on the wrong side! by Justin205 · · Score: 2, Informative

    He lives in the UK. They drive on the other side of the road (from places like the US and Canada) and their steering wheels are on the other side of the car (from places again like the US and Canada).

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  9. Details? by billstr78 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This site is pretty light on details. I have seen more in depth explantions on HOWTO bake a cake. If this guy did this himself, he must have been way to tired or un-motivated to document any of it.

    A damn cool project though. I'll bet MS would be proud to see thier XBOX used in such a versitle way. They should get some bright ideas from this.

    1. Re:Details? by billstr78 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They would. They know that the XBOX is positioned to enter into the home entertainment sector. The next iteration of the game console will be something closer to a PVR.

      The would be happy to see that thier is an emerging market for the same use in automobiles. The problem is that there are not enough Gangsta Rappers to make this sector popular. Maybe the minivan crowd will provide enough motivation for them to make the push into developing mobile consoles.

      Funny how kids and gansta rappers are the only ones interested in playing video games in thier cars.

  10. comparison by SamBC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Has anyone compared this to a broadly equivalent mini-itx setup, in cost or spec? It just seems that an xbox probably has some unnecessary systems...

    1. Re:comparison by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting
      On the contrary, the xbox has only the necessary systems. It has only the minimal I/O (if you consider ethernet necessary, which I do) and actually it could use more, not less. On the other hand, if you kept the system entirely intact (powered it on with a servo, perhaps) then you could pull it out and take it into a house to use it to play games with a minimum of effort, since you need only connect two or three cables depending on what you're doing with it in the car. One might seriously consider hooking up an ethernet to 802.11 bridge, or a USB hub, and one will certainly connect power and the A/V cable.

      The xbox is a pretty barebones legacy-free PC. It could use more ram (As I understand some models have the motherboard requirements to upgrade to double the memory fulfilled, with some hard work) for the purpose of in-car use but I think that it is fairly well sufficient for the things I would want to use it for; in-car navigation (using linux, probably, and gpsdrive) and playing of DVDs, MP3s, and the like. I think I'd go ahead and install a mixer alongside it to support a classic car CD changer, with the control box used with the "FM" type car changers which have the radio modulator. Naturally, I'd tap into the audio lines directly...

      The xbox seems an ideal candidate for this. They're $130 used. The little in-dash screen will cost you several times that. I guess you could use it with the redant tft 5" or 7" from lik-sang if they'd ever get them in, that seems like a decent screen, plus you can flip the image (at least on the 7") so you can use it for a rear view mirror, and/or hang it from the ceiling. The install will have to be custom, though, whereas the in-dash fits in a 1/2 ISO DIN or something, there are numerous adapters for that.

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  11. What I like about this is that it wasn't that hard by OwnerOfWhinyCat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Friends with whom I installed my first LCD and keypad-driven in-car MP3 player were really impressed at the time, but it was considerable work, and there was lots of software tweaking involved.

    With Freevo's help, and some off the shelf components, this guy has a whole different level of cool going on without significantly more work.

    When people point and look and ask questions, they're going ask what software it's running, and they're going to hear Linux. In the mindspace of youth, it's cool stuff like this that competes with all the fluff in WinXP (it really is pretty), and challenges the assumption as to which is cooler. Projects like this will win us more teenage users than Clippy could ever hope to.

    Kudos John.

  12. Moved the wheel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's amazing how he moved the wheel to the other seat so that when you are in the drivers seat, you have your hands free to play games. very nice.

    1. Re:Moved the wheel by falonaj · · Score: 2, Informative

      In Europe, it is usual custom to buy your car in a different country, as both car prices and taxes vary a lot. Britain and Ireland were the only countries left out, as they keep driving on the wrong side of the road.

      Well, this invention might at last lead to more international car business between Britain/Ireland and continental Europe. French people will start buying their cars in London, so they don't need to move the wheel when they install an XBox afterwards.

  13. Hmm by Eudial · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now you can both play F1-sims AND drive IRL at the same time!

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  14. Mirrors for predicted /.ing by nacs · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here are two mirrors as I'm sure this photo-heavy site will start suffering soon:

    Mirror One
    Mirror Two

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  15. Re:extremely dangerous by madcow_ucsb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    this is exactly why (in california, anyway) it's illegal to have a tv/dvd player/etc viewable by the driver when the car's in motion. I believe most commercial systems require the car be in park for the systems to do anything but radio controls, navigation, and such.

    Not to be an asshole, but seriously - you'd have to be a retard to try to watch a movie (or play a video game) and drive at the same time...

    My roommate's got a hacked system so it CAN play DVDs, but christ, he's not stupid enough to do it while DRIVING!

  16. Mirror by AndrewSchaefer · · Score: 2, Informative

    As it's going to get pounded, here's a mirror

  17. oh please by malakai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    in car entertainment centers don't kill people. Morons who try and watch movies while driving kill people.

    The same moron will die when he tries use WAP to buy a book from Amazon while cruising the Autobahn at 120

    Honestly though, if your "cousin" had died while doing this, i'd recm'd you submit his story here. I'd sure vote for him.

    -malakai

  18. Mad Max / Road Warrior by tnak · · Score: 4, Funny
    Does anyone besides me think that it's appropriate that the movie he's watching is one in which the main objective is to crash as many cars as possible?

  19. illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    at first i just thought it was another lin geek taking it too far, but it actually looks pretty sweet.
    however isn't it illegal to have a screen in the front capable of playing video? i thought that stuff was only allowed in the back due to driver distractions

  20. Re:Why? by DickBreath · · Score: 5, Funny

    ....what's the point? ..... entertainment systems in cars seem useless....

    If you've ever been stuck in rush hour traffic moving at an average speed of 3.2 mph, then you can appreciate the usefulness of having a pr0n player handy right in your car.

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  21. Check your local vehicle code by Pettifogger · · Score: 5, Informative
    Before anyone tries doing this, check your local vehicle code. This is usually a subset of the statutes handed down from your state legislature. Typically, you can buy the book at a DMV, the AAA, or similar.

    In many jurisdictions, it is a violation to have a video display device like this capable of being viewed by the driver. If you get pulled over, the officer IS going to take a look around inside and probably give you a "fix it" ticket to get the multimedia system out of there.

    However, I have noticed that the laws haven't exactly stopped a lot of people. Seems like almost every day I'll see someone with a monitor in their sun visor or someplace else. And speaking as one who knows, don't get in an accident while the multimedia system is on. Depending on the jurisdiction and circumstances, that could be seen as some SERIOUS negligence, or possibly even as criminal negligence. And if the plaintiff's attorneys find out... well, your insurance policy probably won't cover what they'll be looking for. Just leave multimedia in your home.

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  22. Future Litigation... by telstar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This will end up in the courts. If you think not, check out this new bill approved in NJ. Though this article doesn't give all the details, the new ban prohibits eating, drinking, cel phone use, faxing, and reading while using your car. Information can be found here.

  23. Heh by Faust7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    so he doesn't go barreling down the highway at 200 kph, as if he were being chased by the police

    As if he were being chased by the police?

  24. Va by NitsujTPU · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't know about other states, but in Virginia, a media setup where the driver can possibly see a screen that can, by design, show DVDs or television is completely illegal. Even most media systems that could, because of their components, display such media (IE, the cd player in BMW 5 series cars), has to prevent the user from playing video.

  25. Re:Why? by di0s · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you've ever been stuck in rush hour traffic moving at an average speed of 3.2 mph, then you can appreciate the usefulness of having a pr0n player handy right in your car.
    And I'm sure your fellow drivers wouldn't appreciate you driving with one hand... =)

  26. Re:extremely dangerous by targo · · Score: 2, Funny

    What he did was illegal and wreckless

    I guess you mean reckless because a wreck was actually involved in the story ;)

  27. Who Needs Drunk Driving... by MixMiesterT · · Score: 4, Funny

    when you can play halo while driving your car, drinking that frappucino from starbucks, and eating that hamburger from McDonalds ... now THATS multi Tasking!

  28. Re:extremely dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    He might even be smart enough to try to never watch Vin Diesel.

  29. My Setup in the Car by BlackListedCard · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here is my setup: Hardware: Pentium II 400mhz 256megs of ram 80gig HD Voodoo 3 pci video card. Creative Labs DVD accel. video card Kworld USB TV Tuner with custom wired antenna. DVD 16x drive. 802.11b wireless USB card. Installed on back dash. Garmin GPS serial sensor. Mint!!! Looks like a mouse. Datalux 10" touch screen off ebay. With full 360 hardware mounting clamp. USB, serial, etc cables 10 feet up to the front dash of the car. SB Live into Alpine 7959 tape deck. Canadian Tire power inverter. Cheap, Cheap! Software: Windows 2000 Power DVD Holleywood DVD player CDEX mp3 ripper. Microsoft Streets and Trips 2003 Microsoft Map Point 2002 Winamp v3.0. Love the backgroud displays. Mame v.62 Doom Shareware virtual keyboard with speech. For keyboard input. Great software. Voice notification for maps and gps. Putting the system together was some time. Not a lot, but the system is a full Windows system. It blows the shit out of anything on the market. It nice to connect to my mp3 server in my house. I download new mp3's or backup some mp3 which I ripped from the car. I can also connect to my main system which runs Linux and the apache server. Backup data and anything else. The environment: The system has been installed in my car for two years. Previous laptop was installed for 5 years. NOT ONE FAILURE. I can not believe it. Nothing has gone wrong. I live in Canada, so I can expect the temperature range of -30oc to +35oc. I would of thought that the dew would get to the componets. Nope, no problem. I also have the power to change anything I like. Other commericial systems you are locked into their operating system and software. With a regular computer. You have the freedom to do anything you want. The hardest thing, is the LCD display. It's also the most costly. If you look on ebay, you can find something cheap. I paid $200US for mine. You can put together some really cheap......

  30. Not especially exciting by commanderfoxtrot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not to mention standard software &c., he is using a voltage inverter.

    To those who don't know what these are: they convert the car's (roughly) 12V to mains voltage so the XBox's PSU can drop it down again to the voltages the XBox wants -- probably 12V again.

    This means that when he starts the car, the XBox will turn off.

    You need a DC-DC converter in order to stop the machine turning off when you start the car, as the car's 12V can drop to as low as 7V.

    Look at my page to see how to build a DC-DC power supply. I've had a speaking, GPS-enabled Linux computer system running in my car for a couple of years. I turn when I get in the car, and only turn it off if I will be parking for over six hours, even though it takes about 25 seconds to start up.

    (And another thing: if anyone is tempted to build one of these using standard PC components, please don't use a full size keyboard!! You can pull the keyboard controller out and link in your own buttons directly. It just looks daft having a full size keyboard. Not mention ergonomics...)

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