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Microsoft Bites Apple, Apple Bites Back
hype7 writes "The NYT (free reg reqd etc) is running an interesting article on where MS seems to be getting all the ideas for its next big OS release, Longhorn. It's only a quickie, but they look at MS's big news from WinHEC, and their possible sources for inspiration. They also pull out that fantastic Bill Gates quote: 'The one thing Apple's providing now is leadership in colors'; and that Apple execs are now having a laugh of their own over how Longhorn, 'Microsoft's 2005 version of its Windows operating system, apes features that have been in Apple's OS X operating system since 2001.'"
Used to be Apple had a great GUI since the early 1980's when Microsoft came out with Windows 3.1. around 1990.
Jobs and Gates are two immovable objects that are colliding with irresistable force...and these are the results. They just sort of merge together. Apple becomes DRM-loving Microsoft, and Microsoft becomes touchy-feely-hippie-interfaced Apple. No surprise to me.
but I do wonder whether there's an agreement where Microsoft pays Apple for some of this
Apple gets to ship IE with their computers ;-)
People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
Then they sued M$ and we all laughed a bit more :)
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Not only has Apple been selling cinema-style flat panel displays for several years, but last year it filed patent application 20030002246, titled "active enclosure for computing device," ...
Help, I'm conflicted.
Heck, it reminds me of the Dilbert cartoon where an "InstalSHIELD" type program displays the message "Install Wizard is now placing orders for products you will probably need... Found your credit card number..."
Wh47 d1d j00 541, 31337 15n't t3h r0xor5 ne m0r3???
Uuummm.... fear of microphones?
Fear of germs?
Fear of tiny gay men?
--- Ban humanity.
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Yeah, after they check out Apple's latest OSX version "Panther" in July :)
They only need a few months to emulate what they see there, right?!
Sehr geehrter Toilettenbenutzer!
I mean, sure, we can go back and forth with the same old MS vs Apple BS... but there is something new and humorous to point out here:
Did anybody notice the desktop image used in the promo photo of the MS/HP Athens (top right of atricle page)? It's as if MS said: "you're damned right we're copying Apple. Fuck them! We'll copy their default desktop image, too, pompous bastards that they are!"
Still, XP does boot and shut down fast. That's something worth paying for and I wish Apple would follow.
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
Really... Windows 2005 will have things that have been in MacOSX since 2001, huh?
Windows 95 copied things that had been in MacOS since... 1986 or so?
The way I count things, MS is getting better, right? They went from 9 years behind to 4 years behind, in only 10 years.
This is my sig. There are many like it but this one is... Oops. Frank, I've got your sig again! Where's mine?
Do you know who they both steal from? BSD.
Stealing from a dead man is called scavenging.
Mikey-San
Karma: +Eleventy billion (mostly affected by watching Celebrity Jeopardy)
If you mean that, like, in the way of a bad acid trip, then I guess you're right.
Have you seen Longhorn?
I still have a T-shirt that says:
"Macintosh
The power of Windows 95... since 1984"
In the _seventies_?!
:)
Wow, that _would_ have been impressive!
Correction: Slashdot would be tearing them apart.
Microsoft now announces:
The arrival of the nExT generation desktop! This desktop will include all-new technology, such as scalable icons and a specialized bar at the bottom that we like to call "the port." You can now land programs in the port, and ship programs from the port.
At the windows developers meeting, we will be unvailing the UCAPI, or universal component API. This API will be a C++/C# centric API, where MS nExT developers can place descendant classes of current coponents in a directory, and they will be automatically "turned on" for use in all programs that used the original component! Imagine the possibilities, such as a multi-threaded spell-checking text box!
We at MS are very excited to be the frontrunners in this brand-new nExT-generation technology!
You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button.
And UNIX copied su from SCO? ;)
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I am glad they ship IE with their systems otherwise how could I have had the pleasure of dragging the IE icon to the trashcan.
Wow, that is like 2 burns in one.
Burn #1: Slashdot is anti-MS!
Burn #2: Slashdot is not really the press!
Congratulations.
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
how dare you! next, you'll be telling us that al gore didn't say he invented the internet! or, that iraq doesn't have any wmd! it's /. not the new york times... er...
Ah, but you forgot the most hubristic - and funniest - ad that Apple ran.
At the launch of Windows 95, Apple ran a full-page ad (NYT?) that said:
C:/NGRDLTNS.W95
Priceless.
Your point is taken, though. Let's see if Apple is awake this time. Something tells me they are.
If Jesus wants me it knows where to find me.
"... I don't think." -- Bill Gates
It's more like "forced to ship". Oh wait, that's a joke. OK, that's funny.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
"Apple executives took obvious glee last week in ... Microsoft's 2005 version of its Windows operating system, apes features that have been in Apple's OS X operating system since 2001."
Apple Innovates Again and Patents Apes in an Operating System.
Steve Jobs sued Microsoft yesterday over use of clothed chimps to code Longhorn in a blatant attempt to get around the Apple "ape patent."
Jobs, "Even if they are successful in fighting off the lawsuit, everyone knows that apes are stronger than chimps. This details why Microsoft has been plagued by security problems. Don't send in a chimp to do an ape's work!"
Jobs added that the next version of the iMac will also utilize a design patent related to apes.
"Microsoft may have decided to copy our flat panel design, but we still have another patent related to computers that change color. Our designers included this after observing the multiple colors on the back sides of some primates. We call them rainbow butt monkeys internally and the next iMacs will have coloring simlar to that. Most chimps have plain hairy butts, but ours don't. So that's another reason that people will find our computers more pleasing to look at and easier to use."
While Apple has been known for rounded edges on computer cases, Jobs declined comment on whether the behinds of "rainbow butt monkeys" or plain chimps were more pleasing to the touch.
>Copying is the sincerest form of plagurism.
Copying from the dictionary is the surest-fire way of spelling "plagiarism" correctly.
Ask me about LOOM(TM).
So while on your iLoo, feel free to serve up a steaming pile of video and voice ;)
I'm sorry to inform you that Microsoft has prior art regarding this patent. Specifically, Steve Ballmer's "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!" performance.
Everybody has copied from the Bible. All the answers to every OS out there can be found in the Old Testament (for applications go to the New Testament). You only need to search for the answers following a plain cabalistic algorithm too simplistic to be mentioned here without insulting people's intelligence. elmusafir Who cares!
The iLoo (portable toilet with Internet access) thing that has been floating around the media for the last week (CNN, CNET, etc, all had articles) turns out to be a "April Fools joke" according to MS representatives (CNET). The only problem: they released it on May 2nd. Damn! They can't even release their jokes on time.
C:\Documents and Settings\Dave>su
'su' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
That's funny, because on my Windows machine it says:
Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.
H:\>su
su: user root does not exist
H:\>
An argument about what is or isn't installed by default is not the same as arguing about the merits of who copied who! After all, Cygwin predates MacOS X... could you say that Apple copied NT+Cygwin by creating a GUI with a Unix-style command line?
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Dave>su
"I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."
C:\Documents and Settings\Dave>
--- Hot Shot City is particularly good.