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Microsoft Bites Apple, Apple Bites Back
hype7 writes "The NYT (free reg reqd etc) is running an interesting article on where MS seems to be getting all the ideas for its next big OS release, Longhorn. It's only a quickie, but they look at MS's big news from WinHEC, and their possible sources for inspiration. They also pull out that fantastic Bill Gates quote: 'The one thing Apple's providing now is leadership in colors'; and that Apple execs are now having a laugh of their own over how Longhorn, 'Microsoft's 2005 version of its Windows operating system, apes features that have been in Apple's OS X operating system since 2001.'"
Another Slashdot story detailing how Microsoft can't possibly be actually good at anything, it can only *copy* good things. Or steal. Or bully. Yawn.
When individuals mock other groups in a social setting they're called insecure and intimidated.
Same here. Everyone here is a Microphobe. My suspicion is that everyone goes home, hides in their closet, and plays with their WinCE handhelds.
I don't know about you, but I consider application and game compatibility a feature as well. Tell me when OS X catches up.
It'd be nice if they could rip-off some "innovation" in the area of a stable OS.
" 'Microsoft's 2005 version of its Windows operating system, apes features that have been in Apple's OS X operating system since 2001.'"
Ironically, by 2005 software available on Windows in 2001 will still not run on the Mac, leaving users with a very colorful paperweight connected to a uni-button pointing device.
Oh well, maybe Duke Nukem Forever will run really nice on Longhorn... =)
This is my sig. Its pathetic.
And Apple has been the most consistently anti-DRM company you can name besides the P2P companies themselves.
Music from the Apple Music store can only be played on Apple computers, on Apple's MP3 software and on Apple's handheld device. The files have your name embedded in them and won't play if you want to let a friend listen to a copy. If your hard drive dies, you can't re-download it. How much more DRM-friendly can you get?
If MS had come up with the Microsoft Music Store with the same restrictions, the press would be tearing them apart.
...MS more than any other company, but they are ALL the same. ORACLE is filled with assholes, Apple is filled with idiots and assholes. MS is filled with assholes. All companies are if you're a critic.
Note the use of the term 'apes'. FFS, if this was a posting about how Apple have followed some of MS's directions (posted many times here), people would never use the word 'apes', they would couch it in terms and phrases like 'taking the best from the lump of crap Windows' and 'improving on MS' pathetic attempts...'
Can't you MS bashers see how absolutely f*cking biased you are, simply by examining the language you use? You people make me want to like (gag) MS...
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Then you must live under a rock.
(Lighten up).
Based on upvotes, Ageism is the only "-ism" Slashdotters care about and think isn't SJW
Probably never, as linux has no user interface, being a kernel and nothing to do with the user.
So they can steel things from X, as the windowing system itself, or KDE and GNOME as desktop environments, or from kwm, enlightenment, fvwm, openbox, or even twm as Window Managers.
But may I congratulate you on what I assume is a very skillful troll, such that to a casual reader it appears to be a valid point
"Longhorn is quartz" "OSX has colors"
.net framework and trying to kick open source out for good. Meanwhile apple maintains its stronghold on closed computer hardware, but uses open source software to base its OS on.
Ya know what? WHATEVER. Nothing new or inventive from either one of those camps. Just boring old screens with some color. Who cares. Copy each other? Of course, thats how it works. Ever notice that possible KDE and Gnome just didnt come out of nowhere? With the exception of maybe Enlightenment, nobody is doing anything truly interesting with the desktop itself. (oh yeah everyone thank Xerox for the GUI, thats where it all began).
But whats really going on?
Microsoft goes the extra mile of course and throws in spyware and DRM and begins its road towards a closed
So whats NOT interesting is the desktop, but the hardware and software base. MS is jealous of the fact that Apple has so much control over their hardware (and software to some extent) and Apple is jealous of MS for having such a huge user base.
As each company moves towards its goals: Read MAKE MONEY, dont think for a second it has anything to do with making computing better, the consumer had better keep thier eyes wide open, and not worry so much about a some desktop theme.
BTW: I tried to be objective: But I have always disliked Macs. From way back when I had a two-button mouse, multi-tasking, thousands of colors, full screen animation, stereo sound, and more. What did the mac have? A black and white screen and a wild eep for sound. Yet even then the mac fanbots would tell me how great it was. The PC crowd didnt have fanbots like that, it was just known that the PC (lets see they were just getting 286's) was what it was, just a text editor.
Its too bad that we argue about the PC and Mac as if either was all that interesting, and we know full well that a good idea is worth copying.
ONE LAST NOTE: I have only watched someone else use OSX. They used it for a while and then it was replaced with Gentoo (go figure). Is apple still so ass backword that dragging disks to the trash is the way to eject them? And empty trash is under "Special"?
M$ may have been second to last with their "preemptive, protected multitasking OS", but they still beat the Mac! By years!
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Congradulations.
Windows XP is ten times more stable than OS X.
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If you have the money to buy a Mac, then surely you have the additional cash to buy a decent mouse? Like, between your couch cushions?
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Your an idiot....they are not limiting you to Macs and iTunes as a method of DR Management.
Name calling. Nice. If you don't think that the Mac --> iTunes --> iPod connection isn't in place as a form of rights management, you're mistaken. You think it's a happy accident that you can't freely make copies for all of your machines? What if you have four Macs? One at work, one for yourself at home, a laptop and one for the kids? Isn't it kinda of absurd that you can't play the songs you buy on all the machines?
The Music Store tunes can be burned to cd's and DVD's, played on multiple computers (up to 3) at a time and transferred without restriction onto ANY MPEG-4 AAC capable player See for yourself [apple.com]
That link doesn't say anything except that "not all players support AAC." Er... yeah. The only one that does is the iPod. Whether new AAC-compatible players will respect the iTunes DRM scheme remains to be seen because right now there are no other players that can play them.
It is by far the most reasonable form of anti-piracy protection out there. I don't mind paying for music as long as they are reasonable in their restrictions.
I don't mind paying for music either, but I don't want to buy music that is tied to anything -- platform, player, "authorization" or anything else. Steve made a big show at the launch about "not treating the consumer like a criminal." If he meant that, he would have found a technological way (watermarking or what have you) to release MP3 files that could be used on any player and with any software. I'd be smooching his ass if he'd done so, but this AAC business is no better than WMA.
I wonder if you'd like to give away your services for free just because I think what you do isn't worth paying for. Ok, maybe idiot was harsh...but please just know the facts before you speak out.
Music is worth paying for, and I buy a lot of music. I've bought music from the iTunes Store and, right now, CDs are a better deal. $9.99 for an album locked to a platform and a player that I have to worry about backing up lest I lose it vs. a piece of durable, physical media free of any kind of DRM with the added bonus of lyrics and liner notes for a few dollars more.
I'm not talking out of my ass here -- I've tried the thing, and while I think the interface of the iMS is fantastic, I'm just not really thrilled about the implementation. If that makes me an idiot in your eyes, I can live with that.
Maybe that's your problem right there, mon. Does your ass itch?