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Play PSX Games On Your Xbox
falzbro writes "Now Xbox owners (well, modded Xbox owners) can do what the Playstation people have been able to do for years; play PSX games on your console! PCSX has been ported to the Xbox. It's unfortunate that the homebrew Xbox development scene is stuck in a world of pseudo-legality, due to the lack of a usable Legal XDK. A compatibility list is currently being hammered out, and it's limited to only playing games stored on your Xbox HDD."
So you essentially have to rip the game onto your hard drive to play it? .... How big is an Xbox hard drive, and how much is your average PSX CD, again?
Somehow, I don't think this is as big a drawback as you make it sound.
So does this mean i can play NES games on the emulator for the PSX, under XBox?
Or does that rely on hardware tricks with the PSX hardware?
PCSX is highly incompatible on a P4 2.53 with a Radeon 9500. I highly doubt any sort of extreme performance on the xbox.
Just get a PS2 - oh and mod it, because we all know this isnt about playing the games, but playing them for free.
From a technical view, emulation is really neat. Too bad the authors cant get credit for what they accomplish, as they're drowned out by some asshat who ports the source using a stolen dev kit for the sole purpose of pirating games.
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The emulator was developed using MS's XDK, and is itself nothing more than a bunch of stolen libraries and system calls.
You'd probably break down and cry if someone violated the GPL.
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PCSXBox - PSX Emulator for XBox v1
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>> Xport did it! , the first PlayStation emulator working on Xbox.
From Xport on forums.xbox-scene.com:
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What's New
- Emulates Playstation
- Memory Card manager (select from 10 memory cards)
- Save states (LTRIGGER+BLACK and LTRIGGER+WHITE)
- Cheat code searching
- Gameshark code-compatible
- Gameshark cheat code database with codes for over 1700 games
- Remappable PSX buttons
- Throttle/speed-up
- Supports BIN files or GZIP'd BIN files. (GZIP is not the same as ZIP)
- Background - Thanks to CandyISO for the background image
- True Type Font - Thanks to CandyISO for this PSX font
- MP3 support
- XPort's Configurable PlayThing
This version does not support real CDs. There are a different set of technical hurdles involved with PSX cds than with SegaCD and PCE CD/SCD. I was finally able to get the XBox to read XA sectors, but it reads them much too slowly for anyone to want to play games using it. (Reads about 2.5KB per second)
For now, create BIN/CUE's of your PSX games and either copy them to your HD or burn them to DVDR/CDRW. Your BIN and CUE files should have the same names.
When you select the BIN file to load, you will be presented with an options menu. You can start the game using one of two different BIOS methods. Using an actual BIOS file for the emulation is the most compatible, however it's a little slower than HLE. Try both and see which one works best for the game you're playing.
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Official Site PCSXBox: http://xport.xb-power.com
Official Site PCSX: http://www.pcsx.net
Download: n/a (built with XDK)
News-Source: forums.xbox-scene.com
Posted by:: XanTium
May 11 18:14 (GMT+1)
Just talking strategy, what's one of the biggest reasons the PS2 is kicking them around in the marketplace? The huge back-library of PS1 titles that can be had for $10. Suddenly, with NO work on Microsoft's part whatsoever, all those PS1 games are playable on X-Box - removing one more reason for people to shell out for a PS2. Of course, they'll probably just sue everyone anyway.
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One way or another, for Microsoft, your installing a modchip is A Bad Thing. Either you do it to turn your box into a PC, therefore very likely forgoing games (which they make all their profit from), to actually pirate games, or to use it for some other obscure purpose which I can't think of at the time being. :)
You'd protect your interests if you were in MS' shoes. If you're looking for someone to hiss at for unsavoury practices in the industry, take a look at some of Nintendo's early-nineties antics.
Site is slashdotted, but I'm curious if this emulator will play PSX games at a higher resolution like Bleem! for Dreamcast.
why when you can play NES games on the NES emulator for xbox? theres an emulator for everything on xbox now except for N64 (which there is currently a contest running for however writes it first) and PS2.
I believe Microsoft was also concerned that gamers with chipped systems would start using hacked versions of online games to cheat (see Diablo 2, Everquest, or hell, just about any PC online game ever). That was (at least once) the official line on why they didn't allow chipped systems to be used on X-Box Live. Can't say I blame them, really; I wouldn't want to have a gaming session ruined because c00ldude7189 decided he wanted to be invincible and have a +99 Sword of Hurting or that sort of thing.
Finally I can make a 733 Mhz CISC CPU operate as well as a 33 Mhz RISC CPU! Oh wonder of wonders!
So if MS really feels this way, why are they so obstinate about the Xbox modding? Xbox's protection is highly analogous to the Paladium in the way it uses a secure platform. So it seems like I ought to be able to diable this at boot time. Okay in return I should expect that Xbox games and Xbox network should be inaccessible in a non-secure platform mode, but if we take steve balmer at his word then this should be an acceptable choice left to the user to make.
On the other hand one could draw a more troubling inference. MS is saying, we are going to lock out non-approved game vendors by using our secure computing platform as a club. This is not unreasonable if it just stopped at Xbox (since they dont have a monopoly on game boxes). But this may also be a the camel's nose in the tent for genertal computing: we're going to do the same with paladium to secure our software monopoly. We will just call it a choice-- a hobson's choice--to evade the monopoly problem.
Of course I'm just talking out my ass here. But I see a strong parallel and dont like it.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Virtual Gamestation was flawless with the emulation it provided. It was in most ways superior to the Playstation before the PS2 came out. Before most games started being Playstation II only, I already had a transportable DVD Mp3 playing, Playstation game playing unit in my PowerBook G3 500, upgraded to 900Mhz now with 768megs of RAM and a 32x CDRW/DVD combo drive.
I was really hoping at the time Connectix faced legal concerns with Sony, that Apple would step in and co liscense it and just add the emulation to the Mac OS. After reading the article about Virtual PC , many wished Apple would have done the same thing with it or a program called Boch's.
I was hoping that Sony would make PCI cards or even PCMCIA cards that would would compliment software emulation.
All said, I'm very content playing Intelligent Qube and Puzzle Fighter on my PowerBook on Airplane trips with the Gravis Gamepad that was just a "PSX controller with a USB connection."
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Not to be a dick or anythingm but who cares? You can get a PSOne for $50.00 (US) almost anywhere. That's less than getting your XBox modded. And you won't have to worry about whether or not the emulator works with any particular game.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
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I am sure that MS will quickly sue those individuals who would dare play an PSX game instead of a legal one. The X-Box was not made for people to have fun, it was supposed to help MS make money. They will just have to get with the program like the rest of the suckers, I mean consumers.
- How would they benefit from this?
- What aspect of their business interests would this serve?
- How does letting people modify their console to play their competitor's products help them?
- Do they get any money from those $10.00 PSX titles?
.ISO's, that's not really true, either.)
I don't see any business case for Microsoft not stomping this into the ground. Hell, they might even get Sony to help them out with this one as the need forThey wouldn't.
None.
It doesn't.
Nope. Sony does. (And since you have to use
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
Unfortunately there is no "pseudo-legality" about it. Until we have a legal SDK for the Xbox, the modding community is going to have to stay underground.
The best news in the last few days was this story about open source modchips on the games.slashdot.org site, so perhaps we are slowly getting closer to Xbox modding becoming a legitimate hobby.
# grep slashdot access.log | grep html | sort | uniq | wc -l 2604
Who wants a bunch of crummy bugs and imcompatabilities? Just go buy a PSX at your local shop for a few bux.. They dont even cost anything anymore.. The only reason I could see why someone would want this on their XBox is to pirate games (As usual.)....
Then again, it's also addressing the same crowd who put a computer in a toilet for the hell of it...
That's a pretty harsh way to describe installing GNU/Lunix.
I bought a used PSX. It appears to be in good condition, but it sucks. Half my games won't play at any given time. I bought some used, but even the new ones with no scratches have problems. I'd like to be able to play the game I want when I want.
Are all the PSX systems like this? I'm sure their black CD surface "copy protection" doesn't help. I'd rather go back to the days of DOS where you have to configure the game for all your hardware and cross your fingers--assuming the game even supports your hardware at all...
Well, I can prove you wrong. ;)
The PSX emulation scene is quite mature and has been for some time. Emulators such as EPSXE for the PC and Linux are highly compatible with PSX games, nearing 98% compatible with all games.
PCSX2 is a Playstation2 emulator however, not a Playstation emulator, which is why it only runs a few demos. This is a port of its predecessor, PCSX, which is about on par with EPSXE.
I don't really understand why?
I own an snes, a playstation, an nes, and an xbox.
I've got all my cd's ripped to mp3s on my home system, and I've got most of my dvds ripped to high quality vbr xvid.
Now, I can play all of this content through my xbox.
Nearly all of it, ('cept the playstation stuff) is shared through samba, and I can access it all through a convient, on screen menu system.
I also have in-game saves for all of my games, and it is really nice to be able to pick a playlist of a GENRE of movie you might like, and then push random.
Or TV shows, for that matter. I enjoy pulling up my Dune mini-series, or HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
All without swapping discs.
I haven't upgraded the harddrive in my xbox, but thats not a concern. I can either a) share what I need over the LAN, or b)burn it to DVD-RW, and play it that way.
What's the average playstation game size? 200 megs? 400 megs? Lets say 300, though I'm sure its probably less than that (I know that there are games that fill discs, or even span discs, but the vast majority of them don't). So 300 megs, I can fit maybe 10-12 games on a DVD-R. And if they gzip down at all, I can fit even more.
This is really cool, people. If you dump an 80 gig harddrive into your xbox, you can have a vast number of psone games on the system itself.
No more worrying about scratched discs. No more lamenting your messed up copy of FF VII which won't let you get past disc 2. No more loosing discs.
Simply navigate through the menu structure, and choose your form of entertainment.
Hell, I don't even watch cable anymore. My system simply records the shows I want to see, and saves them on my harddrive. They are recompressed to xvid, and then dumped in my tvshows dir.
South Park on tap. Final Fantasy on tap (one through eight!). Music on tap.
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The port is based on the open source PC PSX emulator PCSX and plugins. The Porter has NOT released the source code despite repeated requests. Just FYI.
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