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Play PSX Games On Your Xbox
falzbro writes "Now Xbox owners (well, modded Xbox owners) can do what the Playstation people have been able to do for years; play PSX games on your console! PCSX has been ported to the Xbox. It's unfortunate that the homebrew Xbox development scene is stuck in a world of pseudo-legality, due to the lack of a usable Legal XDK. A compatibility list is currently being hammered out, and it's limited to only playing games stored on your Xbox HDD."
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So you essentially have to rip the game onto your hard drive to play it? .... How big is an Xbox hard drive, and how much is your average PSX CD, again?
Somehow, I don't think this is as big a drawback as you make it sound.
So does this mean i can play NES games on the emulator for the PSX, under XBox?
Or does that rely on hardware tricks with the PSX hardware?
PCSX is highly incompatible on a P4 2.53 with a Radeon 9500. I highly doubt any sort of extreme performance on the xbox.
Just get a PS2 - oh and mod it, because we all know this isnt about playing the games, but playing them for free.
From a technical view, emulation is really neat. Too bad the authors cant get credit for what they accomplish, as they're drowned out by some asshat who ports the source using a stolen dev kit for the sole purpose of pirating games.
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It looks like M$ will never let us mod our XBoxes without being banned from XBL. What a shame.
Well. It looks like we will still need to depend on Buffer overflows then. I wish we just used the buffer overflows to install and boot a Linux system, not use it like Knoppix.
Then again, I can't wait for *BSD on Xbox!
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It was at that moment that my headaches went away, and I realized that I had woken up in the Soviet Union.
It has become fashionable on the left and in Western Europe to compare the Bush administration to the Nazis. The comparison is not without some superficial merit. In both cases the government is run by a small gang of snickering, stupid thugs whose vision of paradise is full of explosions and beautifully designed prisons. Toss in the desert fatigues motif and the "self-defense" invasion tactic, and there does seem to be a good case.
But its way off. Its wishful thinking. The Reich only lasted 12 years. The Soviets reigned for 75. They were better at it than the Nazis, and were better at it than the Russians. Ask anyone whos lived in a communist country, and hell tell you: Modern America is deja vu all over again. And if ever there was a Soviet spectacle, it was Bushs speech last week.
Think about it. Huge weapons on display, in foreground and background. The leader who has never fought dressed in full military regalia. Crowds of adoring soldiers and "shock worker" types dressed in colorful costumes, carefully arranged for the cameras. A terrible, excruciatingly dull speech, 20 minutes of incoherent, redundant patriotism (Bush used the words "free" or "freedom" 19 times in an 1800-word speech) and chimpanzoid chest-pounding.
On May Day.
That was Red Square every year for about 70 straight years. And now it is a most natural fit in our society.
The genius of the Soviet systemand now the genius of ourswas that it appealed not to the hatreds and passions of its people, but to other, more dependable qualities: laziness, banality, drunkenness, cowardice. It gave you a piece of sausage and a bottle of vodka and asked only that you take a few minutes to cheer some pictures of tanks rolling into Prague. Its leaders (with the exception of Stalin) were a succession of Bush-like plodders who were dumber than your chimney-sweep uncle and could barely speak their own language. For vacations it sent you to Bulgaria or Sevastopol because anywhere that was really abroad was "not safe." And when you were in Bulgaria, you were thrilled to find that just across the street from your hotel, they had the same "Cafeteria #6" that you had back in Magadan or Vologda or whatever dank hole you came from.
Its no wonder that McDonalds is such a hit in modern Russia.
The genius of the Soviet Union was that it was deep. It was pervasive; its essence ran through the entire society, and after a while did not need to be imposed from above. The drunken slob collapsed in a Siberian train station was the same person as the ruler of the country. As if through one mouth it spent 70 years babbling voluminously in every direction about nothing, while behind the scenes it quietly lived off slave labor and human flesh. It worshipped talentless celebrities and genuinely preferred its atrocious, flavorless food to the great cuisines of the outside world.
Jennifer Lopez and Tom Clancy would have been perfect fits in the Soviet Union; they would have worn medals in public and ridden the trains for free. The mechanism is a little different herebut the monolithic, irresistible instinct toward mediocrity is the same.
So is the fawning sentimentality, and the preposterous fake idealism. In Soviet times, a man who was afraid to speak frankly on any topic in front of his own children and whose neighbor had disappeared two days before was capable of shedding real tears over the plight of the American Negro, a popular Soviet cause for decades. You see the same thing here in the States: no job, no health insurance, fucked for life by the credit bureaus, but swelling with pride over the sight of an Iraqi child with a candy bar.
Modern observers look back at the early Soviet days and wonder how it is that people could possibly have believed those fantastic tales they read about in the state papersthe lurid descriptions of fascist terrorists and wreckers who conspired to poison res
Yep, lots of folks, even semi-famous celebrities, are touting the benefits of drinking liquid fresh from their own fleshy spigots.
Puzzling to me, however, is whether proponents of "urine therapy" chugalug their drink of choice on the rocks or, as the Europeans do, at room temperature.
The time I drank some, the liquid, golden waste was as lukewarm as the closed atmosphere of an old station wagon.
My friend, let's call him, "Bud," has a bad habit of relieving himself into beer cans or just about any open container that will hold waste liquids.
I don't know whether Bud has weak kidneys, efficient kidneys, diabetes, a small bladder or an enlarged prostate. But I do know the man can't hold nature's call for more than 15 minutes, max.
He will stop a vehicle in the middle of a residential street, jump out and flood the pavement. Bud has been known to run to the closest alley, nook or cinder-block wall and spray a torrent. He has polluted many a public pool.
Bud even has been cited for indecent exposure -- urinating in public -- such is the urgency always pressing on his internal reservoir.
So it was that Bud had partially filled an aluminum can that once held cool, refreshing and fermented Rocky Mountain spring water. We were drinking Coors beer, shooting the breeze in the parked station wagon.
I momentarily placed my brew on the floorboard. I reached down for the can, drew it to my lips and took a hefty swig.
My conscious brain was expecting a swish and a swallow of a cool, malty beverage. What exploded against the nerve endings in my mouth and tongue, however, was warm and the saltiest liquid on Earth. A cup of water dipped straight from the Dead Sea would have been less-alkaline.
The shocking taste triggered an immediate autonomic response. The muscles from my abdomen to my lips contracted and expanded in a reflexive spew. So quick were the response and rejection of the foul liquid that my lips never opened. The contents in my mouth sprayed with such incredible force through such a small slit that droplets the size of those from a perfume atomizer rained throughout the interior of the car.
"Hey, what is this?!" I asked Bud.
His hysterical laughter, his failure to answer and my knowledge of the contant urgency of his urinary tract were enough information to precisely identify the substance in the beer can and make my stomach retch.
But proponents of urine therapy would have urged me not to worry: "Go ahead and swallow."
Indian yogis reportedly have been slurping their own juice for more than 5,000 years.
More than 600 scientists gathered in Goa, India, for the first World Conference on Auto-Urine Therapy in February 1996. Some proponents in attendance believe human urine can treat everything from baldness to cancer and AIDS.
The use of urine as a topical rub and drink not only is common in India, but also in Japan and Germany and a growing number of countries.
The Internet is home to the Urine Therapy Home Page.
At least two books, "The Golden Fountain: The Complete Guide to Urine Therapy," by Coen van der Kroon, and "Your Own Perfect Medicine," by Martha Christy, provide buckets of knowledge.
Imbibers say the "medical establishment" has been keeping these wonderful treatments a secret because they're so inexpensive and accessible.
The believers say "old urine," aged much like a fine wine, mixed with sulfur powder works wonders for a balding pate.
But what would people close enough to catch a whiff of such aroma say to a person wearing this miracle poultice in public? "Hey, pal, I don't know how to put this delicately, but you smell worse than the men's room in a wino bar and a basket of rotten eggs."
Users say urine is sterile, antiseptic and non-toxic. They point out that it's 95 percent water, 2.5 percent urea
"It's unfortunate that the homebrew Xbox development scene is stuck in a world of pseudo-legality, due to the lack of a usable Legal XDK. "
Really? How do you come to that conclusion. I bought an Xbox, I have some PSX games, i`ll play them on my Xbox if I like.
PCSXBox - PSX Emulator for XBox v1
:
>> Xport did it! , the first PlayStation emulator working on Xbox.
From Xport on forums.xbox-scene.com:
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What's New
- Emulates Playstation
- Memory Card manager (select from 10 memory cards)
- Save states (LTRIGGER+BLACK and LTRIGGER+WHITE)
- Cheat code searching
- Gameshark code-compatible
- Gameshark cheat code database with codes for over 1700 games
- Remappable PSX buttons
- Throttle/speed-up
- Supports BIN files or GZIP'd BIN files. (GZIP is not the same as ZIP)
- Background - Thanks to CandyISO for the background image
- True Type Font - Thanks to CandyISO for this PSX font
- MP3 support
- XPort's Configurable PlayThing
This version does not support real CDs. There are a different set of technical hurdles involved with PSX cds than with SegaCD and PCE CD/SCD. I was finally able to get the XBox to read XA sectors, but it reads them much too slowly for anyone to want to play games using it. (Reads about 2.5KB per second)
For now, create BIN/CUE's of your PSX games and either copy them to your HD or burn them to DVDR/CDRW. Your BIN and CUE files should have the same names.
When you select the BIN file to load, you will be presented with an options menu. You can start the game using one of two different BIOS methods. Using an actual BIOS file for the emulation is the most compatible, however it's a little slower than HLE. Try both and see which one works best for the game you're playing.
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Official Site PCSXBox: http://xport.xb-power.com
Official Site PCSX: http://www.pcsx.net
Download: n/a (built with XDK)
News-Source: forums.xbox-scene.com
Posted by:: XanTium
May 11 18:14 (GMT+1)
...getting a REAL PC instead of this inferior games and bitching only system. I hope you stole your XBox.
Just talking strategy, what's one of the biggest reasons the PS2 is kicking them around in the marketplace? The huge back-library of PS1 titles that can be had for $10. Suddenly, with NO work on Microsoft's part whatsoever, all those PS1 games are playable on X-Box - removing one more reason for people to shell out for a PS2. Of course, they'll probably just sue everyone anyway.
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Calmly put the controllers down and step slowly away from the console.
Very good! Now please calmly walk to the door and take yourselves outside. Stay out there for several hours so you can get refreshed.
Breathe deep!
Nice isn't it?
Feel the warmth of the sun on your face? The wind gently blowing across your face?
What was it we were talking about?
Xbox-what?
Excellent! We're making VERY good progress!
Site is slashdotted, but I'm curious if this emulator will play PSX games at a higher resolution like Bleem! for Dreamcast.
It seems that the PCSX2 runs homebrew demos well, but can still only run a small minority of commercial games...
From a quick glance at NGEmu... I believe that's how it is with most of the Playstation Emulators out there (but I'd love to be proven wrong.)
you sure you're not confusing with the anti-TK posts of late?
why when you can play NES games on the NES emulator for xbox? theres an emulator for everything on xbox now except for N64 (which there is currently a contest running for however writes it first) and PS2.
...to burn, transfer, etc, one could earn the money even working a minimum wage job and buy a PSOne. Forget about "evil corporations", etc, on a pure time basis it's really cheaper to buy one.
Finally I can make a 733 Mhz CISC CPU operate as well as a 33 Mhz RISC CPU! Oh wonder of wonders!
So if MS really feels this way, why are they so obstinate about the Xbox modding? Xbox's protection is highly analogous to the Paladium in the way it uses a secure platform. So it seems like I ought to be able to diable this at boot time. Okay in return I should expect that Xbox games and Xbox network should be inaccessible in a non-secure platform mode, but if we take steve balmer at his word then this should be an acceptable choice left to the user to make.
On the other hand one could draw a more troubling inference. MS is saying, we are going to lock out non-approved game vendors by using our secure computing platform as a club. This is not unreasonable if it just stopped at Xbox (since they dont have a monopoly on game boxes). But this may also be a the camel's nose in the tent for genertal computing: we're going to do the same with paladium to secure our software monopoly. We will just call it a choice-- a hobson's choice--to evade the monopoly problem.
Of course I'm just talking out my ass here. But I see a strong parallel and dont like it.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Virtual Gamestation was flawless with the emulation it provided. It was in most ways superior to the Playstation before the PS2 came out. Before most games started being Playstation II only, I already had a transportable DVD Mp3 playing, Playstation game playing unit in my PowerBook G3 500, upgraded to 900Mhz now with 768megs of RAM and a 32x CDRW/DVD combo drive.
I was really hoping at the time Connectix faced legal concerns with Sony, that Apple would step in and co liscense it and just add the emulation to the Mac OS. After reading the article about Virtual PC , many wished Apple would have done the same thing with it or a program called Boch's.
I was hoping that Sony would make PCI cards or even PCMCIA cards that would would compliment software emulation.
All said, I'm very content playing Intelligent Qube and Puzzle Fighter on my PowerBook on Airplane trips with the Gravis Gamepad that was just a "PSX controller with a USB connection."
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
Not to be a dick or anythingm but who cares? You can get a PSOne for $50.00 (US) almost anywhere. That's less than getting your XBox modded. And you won't have to worry about whether or not the emulator works with any particular game.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
Just give /. a review on the new threat and its taken care off imediately by the slashdotting
You're talkin to Linux users remember. The same ones who'll spend hours downloading/building/tweaking/building/tweaking/bu ilding an app that offers 60% of the functionality of any of six Windoze shareware/pd apps (and about 30% of commercial apps) just to either save the $15 shareware fee/$120 commercial fee/just to avoid M$.
/.'er has more time than anything else (e.g. a life).
Remember, "it's only free if you don't value your time" and the average
Really, I would. You hit teh nail right on the head. Good post.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
I am sure that MS will quickly sue those individuals who would dare play an PSX game instead of a legal one. The X-Box was not made for people to have fun, it was supposed to help MS make money. They will just have to get with the program like the rest of the suckers, I mean consumers.
get a REAL PC or a life instead wasting your time with this inferior hardware?
- How would they benefit from this?
- What aspect of their business interests would this serve?
- How does letting people modify their console to play their competitor's products help them?
- Do they get any money from those $10.00 PSX titles?
.ISO's, that's not really true, either.)
I don't see any business case for Microsoft not stomping this into the ground. Hell, they might even get Sony to help them out with this one as the need forThey wouldn't.
None.
It doesn't.
Nope. Sony does. (And since you have to use
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
Unfortunately there is no "pseudo-legality" about it. Until we have a legal SDK for the Xbox, the modding community is going to have to stay underground.
The best news in the last few days was this story about open source modchips on the games.slashdot.org site, so perhaps we are slowly getting closer to Xbox modding becoming a legitimate hobby.
# grep slashdot access.log | grep html | sort | uniq | wc -l 2604
Except person #2 doesn't have to do all this work anymore because person #1 has made a .deb or an RPM after all his hard work.
... person #n.
Saves $120 for person #2, person #3
this guy will sell you all the gear you need to do this... just as soon as he deals with the child rape case he is being tried for
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Truly, VGS was very nice for less 3d-intensive games (some FF collection games notably) that didn't work as nicely on some things such as EPSXE. However, it lacked the 3d power and configurability of many of the more common modularized emulators.
If Sony had wanted, there were probably a lot of choices they could have picked up on after VGS for emulation, provided they find a way to reduce their usage for piracy.
Who wants a bunch of crummy bugs and imcompatabilities? Just go buy a PSX at your local shop for a few bux.. They dont even cost anything anymore.. The only reason I could see why someone would want this on their XBox is to pirate games (As usual.)....
This really should have been posted under the soon-to-be-sued-into-oblivion department. A cool project, and a cool idea, but a foolish move by the porter.
And then there is the issue of running something designed for a MIPS processor on an x86. You are paring 30 general purpose registers down to 4 specialized registers.
That is why I think that the PS2 will not be emulated for a while, you have to get by with 1/30 the register space. The registers on the PS2 are 128 bits wide, and there are 30 of them.
If I have nothing to hide, don't search me
No use for a slow intel console, hey I'll buy a CD32 and a CDTV to go with that XBox. :-)
Since the xbox uses an intel processor, with stripped down windows (from what I know) why not make an xbox emulator for the pc.
I don't know what the xbox software want's to see when run, but somehow someway it must be possible.
A wine xbox emulator, that would piss microsoft off
Did I mention how I have no use for a slow intel console and it ain't going to be the center of anything in my house.
Sounds good to me:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openxdk/
MICROSOFT SUCKS BITCHES
Your XBox plays PSX games on you!
me: w00t, FFIX - finally!
compatibilty list: Final Fantasy IX - NO, Freezes on start after "Produced by Squaresoft slide"
me: damn, but maybe ChronoCross..
list: Chrono Cross - loads but hangs after i choose start new game
me: aaaah! xenogears! please!
list: Xenogears - wont go further than title
me: *sob*
What's in it for Microsoft? The underground community that wouldn't normally buy anything branded by Microsoft are clamouring over each other to get Xboxes. Face it, the Xbox is cool to a whole different community now, and the faster the machines sell, the faster Microsoft gets its investment back.
Besides, if you've got a modded Xbox, getting an emulator is the only way you can play decent games on it. The Xbox has been out for a year and a half and Microsoft is still peddling its launch titles, and Halo 2 won't be out until next year. Call me cynical, but don't other games machines get good games on a more frequent basis?
Attack its weak point for massive damage!
I bought a used PSX. It appears to be in good condition, but it sucks. Half my games won't play at any given time. I bought some used, but even the new ones with no scratches have problems. I'd like to be able to play the game I want when I want.
Are all the PSX systems like this? I'm sure their black CD surface "copy protection" doesn't help. I'd rather go back to the days of DOS where you have to configure the game for all your hardware and cross your fingers--assuming the game even supports your hardware at all...
I hope so. There has to be some benefit in exchange for women.
Excuse me, I think I'm a bit lost. Where do I go to exchange my geekiness for a woman?
Hey guys...it's time you figure out that there are practical purposes for this.
I along with many people own the PSX and PS2. Well, I let someone 'borrow' the PSX so I can no longer play games on that. Of course the only game I would ever play is Castlevania: SotN...my first and favorite game on that aged console. Well, the PS2 hardware is really slow to load and just not fun to deal with, so I will be glad to be able to play SotN on the XBox. Word has it SotN works flawlessly...let's hope so. So I am lazy...its no different than people making MP3 collections for the convenience facter.
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Why emulate something through an emulator? Why host a web server on a Dreamcast? WE'RE GEEKS. IT'S WHAT WE DO.
Cant you read the article you posted too? the poster says exactly what you do, that its okay for MS to copy protect its Xbox. He's just noting how a locked down system is in consistent with the speech balmer gave last week on their supposed change of heart on desktop protection. Its not a conspiracy theory since its not even theoretical; paladium is coming and xbox IS the prototype.
Get rid of your assumptions about people such as "ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS STEAL" and then maybe I'll read your post next time.
I understand that it is cool to be able to do this... but i just don't see why we ignore such a powerful console(PS2) which is atleast slightly more open to Linux and the community.
I just tried it. I could not believe it work to about 99%. I could not identify any slow down.
The graphics were perfect. And there were no sound problems. I tried it with four games.
It is perfect for emulating games. Well done!
I hope the author has a job. The world can not waste talent like this.
I wounder how long it will take for Microsoft to shut this program down? Or will they?
It might be just what they want
I don't really understand why?
I own an snes, a playstation, an nes, and an xbox.
I've got all my cd's ripped to mp3s on my home system, and I've got most of my dvds ripped to high quality vbr xvid.
Now, I can play all of this content through my xbox.
Nearly all of it, ('cept the playstation stuff) is shared through samba, and I can access it all through a convient, on screen menu system.
I also have in-game saves for all of my games, and it is really nice to be able to pick a playlist of a GENRE of movie you might like, and then push random.
Or TV shows, for that matter. I enjoy pulling up my Dune mini-series, or HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
All without swapping discs.
I haven't upgraded the harddrive in my xbox, but thats not a concern. I can either a) share what I need over the LAN, or b)burn it to DVD-RW, and play it that way.
What's the average playstation game size? 200 megs? 400 megs? Lets say 300, though I'm sure its probably less than that (I know that there are games that fill discs, or even span discs, but the vast majority of them don't). So 300 megs, I can fit maybe 10-12 games on a DVD-R. And if they gzip down at all, I can fit even more.
This is really cool, people. If you dump an 80 gig harddrive into your xbox, you can have a vast number of psone games on the system itself.
No more worrying about scratched discs. No more lamenting your messed up copy of FF VII which won't let you get past disc 2. No more loosing discs.
Simply navigate through the menu structure, and choose your form of entertainment.
Hell, I don't even watch cable anymore. My system simply records the shows I want to see, and saves them on my harddrive. They are recompressed to xvid, and then dumped in my tvshows dir.
South Park on tap. Final Fantasy on tap (one through eight!). Music on tap.
Life is good
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The port is based on the open source PC PSX emulator PCSX and plugins. The Porter has NOT released the source code despite repeated requests. Just FYI.
- "Scientia non habet inimicum nisp ignorantem"
Illegality is "pseudo-legality"!
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MAME.
It works. It preserved 1200+ games, some of which are now crumbling silicon from the 70s.
When the dreamcast will be 30 years old (or just 20...) then we can speak about preservation.
And if you REALLY enjoy Saturn, grasp a source code and help them.
As I OWN Tekken3, and some other games that survived my PS1, the coming of an emulator is all I want.
+ the guy distributes source, not bins...
It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
Very well said, that pretty much sums up the argument and puts the "haters" in their place. Having an Xbox is almost like rooting for the underdog (kind of ironic isn't it?) against a wave of neverending Sony fanboys! The PSX emulator is just another great step towards excellence in the underground scene. I just played Chrono Cross last night and it was great :)
I was playing Chrono Cross (from FF Chronicles) last night, and aside from some minor sound stutter in the FMV it played wonderfully. Except for some reason I couldn't save my game after playing an hour and a half, had to reset it and it pissed me off!