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The Hiring, Firing and Re-Hiring of Spider-Man

Obiwan Kenobi writes "Remember that rumor that Tobey McGuire was fired and Jake Gyllenhaal was going to be Spider-Man? Well, it's true. According to the LA Times, McGuire's unwillingness to reveal the extent of his back injuries from his last project (Seabiscuit) resulted in a huge power struggle that incurred the wrath of Universal president Ron Meyer (whose daughter is 'coincidentally' dating McGuire), a pissed off Sam Raimi, and a now-fired agent. Interesting read about the politics of making a big budget blockbuster." Really just a gossipy story frankly, but McGuire seems to be in for the sequel despite the back problems.

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  1. Banging the boss's daughter... by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Normally puts you at a disadvantage.

    Tobey - Do NOT dump this girl. You will pay dearly.

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    1. Re:Banging the boss's daughter... by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

      Exactly. How do you think he hurt his back ?

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    2. Re:Banging the boss's daughter... by Schezar · · Score: 5, Funny

      That Seabiscuit can be rough in the sack I hear.

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    3. Re:Banging the boss's daughter... by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

      She's been reported as saying, "Hump me, dopey one named Tobey! You're my only hope."

    4. Re:Banging the boss's daughter... by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Funny

      You sure it wasn't Michael Douglas from Wiseguys?

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    5. Re:Banging the boss's daughter... by elmegil · · Score: 5, Funny
      Do NOT dump this girl. You will pay dearly.

      And now you're with her dad's agency too.....bad move dude.

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    6. Re:Banging the boss's daughter... by shane_rimmer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Agghhh! Reading that was like watching a train wreck, and yet I still found it funny. I've now lost faith in myself along with the rest of humanity.

  2. the big mag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not McGuire, it's Maguire.

  3. They should leave him fired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tobey Maguire is weak. Always remember, with great back injuries comes great take-wrecking painkillers.

  4. Not what I heard by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 5, Informative


    I was watching Celebrity Justice just today (don't ask) and it seems that Gylennhahallla was put in because he's dating Dunst and Raimi was upset with McGuire. But before Tobey can come back to play Spiderman (which is what everyone would prefer when attitudes aren't flying) he's now going to have to pass a physical and consider a paycut.

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    1. Re:Not what I heard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      he's now going to have to pass a physical and consider a paycut.
      Tobey: I have considered, and am going to have to pass on the cut.

  5. Back problems by gilesjuk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Back problems didn't stop Orlando Bloom from doing Lord of the Rings. He actually broke his back too.

    1. Re:Back problems by mcpkaaos · · Score: 3, Funny

      That explains the "bow in the shady spot" running style he has. Gives new meaning to the word quiver.

      Sorry, sorry, I had to.

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    2. Re:Back problems by Conspir8or · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but he was dating Gimli, so he kept the job.

    3. Re:Back problems by HidingMyName · · Score: 3, Informative

      Interestingly imdb claims he broke a rib. Still must hurt like hell though (never had the pleasure of brorken ribs).

    4. Re:Back problems by Mr.Phil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      During shooting of Lord of the Rings, yes. But it also says that he broke his back when he was younger, before the movie. That is what the poster is refering to, I believe.

  6. Interesting Article. by thrillbert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny how you can find out things about people, and how appearances are not always correct. Take me for instance, I really thought Tobby was as quiet and good natured as he plays in his movies. But after reading the article, I realize he's just another person who has allowed the money to go to his head.

    Fine, you're a millionaire, this doesn't automatically mean you need to be a prick.. be thankful that someone actually pays to go see your stuff, and realize that without the studios/directors/producers there will be no film, and you woulnd't be getting jack..

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    1. Re:Interesting Article. by Xerithane · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fine, you're a millionaire, this doesn't automatically mean you need to be a prick.. be thankful that someone actually pays to go see your stuff, and realize that without the studios/directors/producers there will be no film, and you woulnd't be getting jack..

      Exactly, being a prick has nothing to do with money. I'm not even close to being a millionaire, and I have the art of being a prick down to.. well, an art.

      These assholes in their fancy suits and expensive cars, staring in their stupid movies are giving pricks everywhere a bad name.

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    2. Re:Interesting Article. by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This has nothing to do with having a big head. He was working 80 hours a week for another employer when Rami and company started to get their panties in a bunch.

      Let's see you bow and scrape to your next contract when you're trying to "give 100%" to your current one.

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  7. Currently Filming by KingAdrock · · Score: 4, Informative

    They are currently filming down near the financial district in Manhattan. From everything I've heard Mr. McGuire is there, so I'm guessing he is in the movie.

  8. Can he stay awake by Ironpoint · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Can Tobey MCGuire even stay awake long enough for another movie? I remember watching spiderman and thinking it was some sort of joke or something. I always thought of spiderman as hyper-energetic and outgoing, but I guess a lethargic spiderman was kind of interesting.

    1. Re:Can he stay awake by cgenman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Spiderman is all about suffering. This one is just suffering from narcolepsy.

  9. On TV... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    On one of those TV trash programs Celebrity Justice that aired yesterday (nothing on the site about it though...) they painted a slightly different story.

    According to them originally Tobey McGuire was cast in the role of SpiderMan but was going to be dropped because he was making demands that related to scheduling trying to make them work around his schedule because of his back.

    When he started making these demands producers said fine we have Jake Gyllenhaal in our back pocket so tell Tobey to take a hike. Tobey basically crawled back and is now SpiderMan but had to agree to certain things including signing an agreement that he would be financially penalized if he was unable to fill his role as SpiderMan and also had to undergo a medical exam.

  10. Jake Gyllenhaal would do a better job by aSiTiC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Never been a huge fan of McGuire. Jake Gyllenhaal is a much superior actor and also a little darker and more interesting. I'm probably in the minority and Jake doesn't fit with pop culture like McGuire does but it would have been cool.

    Anyone ever see Donnie Darko??? That's about all you need to say about Jake Gyllenhaal.

    Besides the fact that it runs in the family Maggie Gyllenhaal was amazing in Secretary.

    1. Re:Jake Gyllenhaal would do a better job by RestiffBard · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've seen Darko, own it on DVD. He is good. But, like you said he's darker. Spiderman isn't dark. Either way I would have been OK with Gyllenhaal but it makes me nuts when sequels change around actors. The schizophrenia of Batman made me... well, batty.

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  11. D'oh! by Obiwan+Kenobi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the classic Posting Of Stories With Blatant Spelling Mistakes tradition, I hereby apologize for mispelling Tobey Maguire three times in a row.

    Yes, I too was in the running for a slashdot editor. (/joke)

  12. Getting back in by sssmashy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Meyer had more than one pony, so to speak, in this race. Not only was Maguire dating his daughter, he also was in Universal's "Seabiscuit." Meyer got on the phone with Maguire and told him he'd be making a catastrophic mistake if he didn't do everything in his power to get himself back into the movie.

    From the sound of things, he'd be making an even worse mistake if he hadn't done everything in his power to get himself back into his boss's daughter. ;-)

    1. Re:Getting back in by hesiod · · Score: 2, Informative

      > to get himself back into his boss's daughter. ;-)

      I understand it's a joke, but it's actually his boss's COMPETITION'S daughter. His GF's Dad is from a rival company and he still vouched for him.

  13. As long as we're gossiping... by chowdmouse · · Score: 2, Funny
    I think those tights make Tobey look fat. You call those calves? I call them steers!

    Let's get back to something geeky.

  14. Re:what kind of director by Mr.Phil · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "... or the entire cast of MASH the TV show being better than the entire cast of MASH the movie."

    Except for Gary Burghoff, who played Radar O'Reilly in both the movie and the TV series.

  15. Re:what kind of director by Transient0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    no... he was better too.

  16. In Soviet Russia... by Cmoll · · Score: 4, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, Toby Maguire is played by Spiderman.

  17. Happens all the time by mblase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I remember hearing (this is unsubstantiated) that after "The Hunt for Red October" was a hit, Alec Baldwin demanded an enormous pay increase to play Jack Ryan in the next movie. Imagine his surprise when he was soundly dropped and replaced with Harrison Ford, who I imagine commands a much higher check than Alec Baldwin ever got for a single movie.

    The moral of these stories, of course, is that humility is a virtue worth cultivating, because when you get right down to it, nobody's irreplacable. Especially in Hollywood, where (if "The Matrix Reloaded" is any sign of things to come) we'll soon be able to map any actor's face onto a double's body with astonishing ease.

  18. Re:Spiderman was a DATE movie . Not action film. by jgerman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes because girlfriends across america were thrilled with their boyfriend's salivating during the Dunst in a wet dress scene. I hear the director told her to bounce up and down like that... for the chick demographic.

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  19. Re:McGuire's in... by amembrane · · Score: 2, Funny
    Obligatory kneejerk defensive response!!!!

    Obligatory questioning of your origin and its claim to fame!!

    Obligatory statement of New Jersey's superiority! Evidence optional!

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  20. Quote that said it all by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "'Do I want to go in on the seventh day for an eight-hour cyberscan?'"

    If you want to get paid big bucks, you sure as shit better want to go that extra mile.

  21. For his salary... by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Construction workers make his one-day rate in a year, and have way worse than minor back pain from playing "Spiderman".

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  22. She really should've had dual credits. by mckwant · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm still not sure what her face looks like.

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  23. Re:Leave this type of story.... by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Informative

    De-select "Movies" in your preferences section for this site. You won't have to see the stories, and we won't have to hear you whine about them.

    Sweet, huh?

  24. Re:McGuire's in... by Admiral1973 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not only have I seen Spiderman 2 filming in NYC, I've seen Maguire on the set. They shot a scene in a pizza place in Greenwich Village, down the block from my apartment. I watched with about 20 other people as Maguire traded places with his stunt double and later as two production assistants escorted him to and from his trailer, parked down the street. So he's most definitely in this movie.

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  25. If anybody wants to understand this stuff, read... by landley · · Score: 2, Informative
    The book "Where did I go right?" by Bernie Brillstein is a marvelous introduction to how hollywood actually works. It's the memoirs of somebody who's been involved in everything from Saturday Night Live, Ghostbusters, the Muppet Show, Dangerous Liasons, etc. Along the way he founded his own agency (Brillstein/Grey) If you want to know the difference between a manager and an agent, or how movies and television shows are really put together, or what working with actors is like, read that book.

    (Nope, never met the guy. Just liked the book.)

  26. news flash by jbellis · · Score: 4, Informative

    you don't work construction with a herniated disk, no matter HOW tough you are. nice troll, though.

  27. Re:Not worth it to change actors by default+luser · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bond is replaceable because Bond is not the man. Bond is the style. We see the face all the time, and yet all we remember are the well-tailored grey suits, sporty cars and Walther PPK. All you need is a suave man to wear that suit, drive that car and fire that weapon.

    Batman is not replaceable because Batman ( as portrayed in the 80s/90s ) is the man behind the mask. This is why it was so important to have someone who could actually act, and why people really missed Michael Keaton in III and IV. He was fairly good at the role, and people became attached to his personal emotional stigma.

    You'll find the same thing has happened with Spiderman. The geek-out-of-water persona really gave Peter Parker as a person a lot more depth than people were expecting. But that depth is forever attached to Tobey, it will be lost if you switch actors.

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  28. Re:McGuire's in... by Mindwarp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not to mention the fact that they filmed a lot of the 'web-swinging' shots outside my office building in Chicago a few months ago.

    A very tall crane, and a very complex gyro-stabilized computer controlled camera mount, if you're interested.

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  29. Re:Royalties by Thud457 · · Score: 2
    "the net profit was $0."

    Amazing how it always works out like that. Must be one of them there "coincidences". Or PIRACY! that's what it is!!

    Yet the still keep making movies. Hell, they'll make sequels to movies that show $0 on the books, without getting a nasty visit from the IRS.

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  30. Not Nice, No Sense of Humor by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I saw him on Letterman when Spidey 1 was about to come out. Dave was goofing on him, with footage from an ancient black and white spider horror flick.

    McGuire *WAS NOT* amused. He looked royally pissed.

    I though to myself, "Self, that guy's a dick!". Looks like we were right...

  31. RTFA - Not "The Boss's" daughter... by LookSharp · · Score: 4, Informative

    Good grief, Tobey was working for Columbia Pictures, and he's dating the daughter of the head of Universal Studios. It clearly says in the article that Meyer is "the head of a rival studio."

    200 replies and nobody mentioned this?

    1. Re:RTFA - Not "The Boss's" daughter... by DragonMagic · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except that Universal, where Meyers is head, is the company putting out _Seabiscuit_, which Tobey stars.

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  32. Re:Too bad... by SydShamino · · Score: 2, Funny

    >> Jake Gyllenhaal is a much better actor, and this is exactly what he needs to become a household name.

    Actually, I think dropping six letters from "Gyllenhall" is what he needs to become a household name.

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  33. Re:Bring on the CG! by Brendan+Byrd · · Score: 3, Funny

    And we'll get to hear such classic lines like:

    "Good... Bad... I'm the guy with web."
    "Hail to the Spidey, baby."
    "See this? This is my web slinger!"
    "Gimmie some sugar, baby."