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Blue-Laser DVD Formats Wars
killmore notes a story running on ZDNet talking about incompatible blue laser formats of Blue-Laser DVDs which can store 36GB of data. The new format is from Toshiba & NEC and boasts backwards compatibility with the current standards for DVDs.
which can store 36GB of date. Now I can fit my whole schedule on one dvd.
when is someone going to post how to exchange the amber/yellow led on front for a blue/red led?
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Just what the DVD medium needs, more freaking standards. Heck, last time I went into my local WorstBuy to pick up a pack of DVD-RW media (only wanted a couple) all they had was rows and rows of DVW+R discs and tons of empty shelf space for the DVD-R stuff. Does this mean we're going to have to start choosing between multiple Blue standards as well? Is anybody else tired of having multiple (completely identical feature wise) discs to choose from? Is this not lunacy?
I read the internet for the articles.
Toshiba wanted dual layer and Sony (I think) wanted to standardize on flippers. Thank goodness they comprimized and kept both.
An incompatible format that boasts backwards-compatability.
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... has the media format standards always been divided between two non-compatable formats. Is there really any reason they cannot agree on one. Why not argue over three or four.
Beta/VHS, CD-RW/CD-RW+, mp3/wma, DVD-RW,DVD-RW+. One of them always looses big time, they ought follow in the footsteps of the W3C or IETF and make _one_ standard that makes everyone happy.
It seems as though companies align themselves along competition lines rather than going with the one with the best specification.
Who cares how much data or what data format it can store! All I want is to remove the top cover of the drive and replace it with plexiglass, mod the computer case so there's also a plexiglass so the pretty blue laser light can actually shine through the case. mmm...
Of course, this is quite expensive, unless someone can show me a blue laser that I can attach to the computer that will automatically point towards the eyes of whoever snooping over my back....
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> backwards compatibility with the current standards for DVDs.
What standards? I've been waiting and waiting for the "current standards" to shake out, and they still haven't. Maybe I'll be able to get a DVD burner in another 2-3 years, when they finally do have a standard!
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I already have problems with my 2-year-old son scratching my CD collection. DVDs are even MORE sensitive to scratching. As the wavelength shortens and density increases, it seems reasonable to expect the thing to be a lot more sensitive to scratching. If the format stores a disc in a cartridge, then this is not a problem. However, cartridges seem to have died out years ago.
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Because if you don't, people won't buy your hardware. IBM vs. Apple, Clones vs. IBM PS/2, PlayStation 2 vs. Dreamcast, US Robotics vs. Hayes, SVHS vs. 8mm, etc.
Two imcompatible formats promising the same thing. Whatever will we do? Will one be more successful than the other? Will one drive the other to extinction? Do you think that the winner will be the most technologically sophisticated, or the cheapest and most widely-licensed?
Interesting news, but nothing I'm going to worry about. We've all weathered incompatible formats before. If you want to know which one will win, just wait a year after drives for both formats go on sale and check your Best Buy flier for the cheapest price.
There is an interesting commentary on this over at the Digital Bits. It looks like some companies don't want backwards compatibilty with today's DVD, and they want to lock down the market and prevent cheap Chinese players from entering the HD-DVD arena.
If they do that, I think that you will see HD-DVD relegated to a LaserDisc sized niche market. Only true videophiles will spend hundereds of dollars to upgrade hardware, and hundreds more to replace their DVD collection with HD discs. The rest of the population will be perfectly happy with Anamorphic Widescreen DVD on a HD set.
I'll assume you're asking an honest question (here? at slashdot? HAHAHAHA!) and give you an honest answer.
Backwards compatibility is implemented in order to not destroy the installed base of products. What good is a new DVD player that can't play existing DVDs? How many people are going to buy ANOTHER DVD player just to leave the old one in place because the new one won't play the 400 movies they already have? People already grous about having to keep a DVD player and a VCR!
As for file formats, who cares if no one else is going to use your files? If you ever want to share them with someone else then you will need to either support an existing format or distribute the needed code to use your files with them.
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seems to have died out? have you considered how many cds would need to be replaced vs. not replaced in a situation where they were all protected vs. not? It's economics.. they changed their product into something you'll replace several times over if you're an average joe. They DID initially promote CDs as indestructable. *AHEM* we all know that is very very much bs.
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Mmmmmmm....36GB should give me more than enough room to do everything I ever wanted to do on a date.
Yes, even that. Mmmmmmmmmm.
special edition dvds? How is Peter Jackson supposed to sell two versions of the same movie two times only four months apart if they're both the same number of discs?
I love it how the media automatically assumes DVD stands for Digital Video Disc.
That's probably true assuming the same format. But if they wanted, it would be smart to take advantage of that huge capacity by increasing the error-checking redundancy. That way you could take a belt sander to the damned thing and still maybe read it. Well, maybe not quite...but you get the idea.
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In the interest of compromise and back compatability, do you think we can merge the red and blue technologies for something more purplish? That way, everyone's happy!
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However, cartridges seem to have died out years ago.
The Blu-Ray format uses cartridges which hold the discs. It's the main reason I hope it wins out.
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Why can't they make a "generic" optical disc that can be written in any format (CD, DVD-R, DVD+R, etc) up to whatever the granularity of the dye is?
I know its probably a dumb question, but it seems like there's no reason I shouldn't be able to write a CD-R format disc onto a DVD-R, at least in terms of pit density.
The development of the "blue" (Really violet) laser diode has taken TREMENDOUS effort over the last 3-4 years. (Read up on it some time it's pretty interesting) Yes, it was mostly all done (though not ALL) in asian countries. The US can't (and shouldn't) be the leader of ALL tech you know.
I don't know why a blue dvd recorder HAS to be revolutionary to be news-worthy, It is evolutionary and it is news-worthy, therefore it's in the news.
"Holographic" storage has been talked about and played with incessently for almost a decade now. If it were practical, something would have been done with it by now. But the much simpler CD/DVD optical disk technology has progressed with sufficient speed and capacity to warrent more complex solutions completely unneccesary.
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AOD or BluRay ?
Easy choice- "BluRay" sounds a billion times cooler.
Like what is "AOD"? "Attack of the DMCA"?
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We needed this technology yesterday!
Well, it would be "versatile" if the DVD Consortium would let you actually do something with the damned things.