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Posted by ryuzaki0 on Monday May 19, 2003 @01:42AM from the bit-an-oops dept.

einer writes "According to the The Register, the registry containing all of the .org tld information has fallen off the planet. The article is light on details, and doesn't list any potential consequences. " It looks like it's the server that maintains the records for who owns what .org domain - and a big "I Told You So" for Verisign. And of course, now it seems to be working just fine. Good work, PIR.

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whois still working by drwtsn32 · 2003-05-19 01:45 · Score: 5, Informative

I just did a whois query on my org domain. It works fine.
1. Re:whois still working by madprof · 2003-05-19 03:18 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Of course! The article has been pulled from teh front page because the service was NEVER down in the first place.
  The whois server that Simon Perry used to check if his domain was up was owned by Verisign. Which doesn't cary any .org information.
  Simon, being incredibly stupid, doesn't understand what "The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and Registrars" means.
  Neither do The Register it seems. More great reporting from that high quality news source....
2. Re:whois still working by _xeno_ · 2003-05-19 04:49 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  The Register is not a very trustworthy news source. I used to think they were mostly OK, but then I read Gates: 'Wake up and steal the coffee' , which is seven paragraphs slamming Bill Gates for leaving a coffee shop without paying. Followed by three paragraphs saying effectively "oh, the above is false, but we wanted to report it anyway."
  I mean, really. A full-page article alledging that Bill Gates is so full of himself that he forgot that he has to pay for things like the rest of us proles, and then three-paragraph correction reporting that the above story isn't true. It's rediculous! At least Slashdot (usually) posts the update to the top paragraph and highlights it. But reporting something that you know isn't true and then containing the correct right within the story is such bad journalism as to border on the rediculous.
  I suppose they've been taking the BOFH over-seriously there. Outright lieing is OK for Simon, since he's a fictional character and expected to be a bastard. But for a supposed news article - one that doesn't even have anything to do with technology, only a press conference gone awry, it is just do dishonest to try and libel someone simply because you disagree with his policies.
  I lost a lot of confidence in the Register with that story. I know they have an overly mocking style and that they tend to attack everyone and everything simply as part of their style. But doing so with a story you know if false is unfair and lowers you to the level of mindless zealot. - (X)
  * I suppose I'm being overly harsh; the story was originally posted without the correction and the correction was only added later after they found out that the story was false. But I still think they should have included a note at the top. Hardly seems fair to mention it only at the very bottom, does it?
  
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whois slashdot.org by samhalliday · 2003-05-19 01:47 · Score: 4, Informative

whois slashdot.org
Found referral to whois.opensrs.net.
Registrant:
VA Software Corporation (OSDN)
47071 Bayside Parkway
Fremont, CA 94538
US
Domain name: SLASHDOT.ORG

i guess it will take a while for this to filter down the servers... how long does anyone guess it will be before we cant whois .org; and will this affect DNS??? that coudl be a REAL disaster!
Update your whois client. by jrwilk01 · 2003-05-19 01:48 · Score: 5, Informative

Responsible servers changed, all is well. Nothing to see here. Move along.

jrw@gerontius:~$ whois slashdot.org
NOTICE: Access to .ORG WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in
determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the PIR
registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry
for informational purposes only, and PIR does not guarantee its
accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree
that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no
circumstances will you use this data to: (a) allow, enable, or otherwise
support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than
the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume,
automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of
Registry Operator or any ICANN-Accredited Registrar, except as reasonably
necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. All
rights reserved. PIR reserves the right to modify these terms at any
time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy.

Domain ID:D2289308-LROR
Domain Name:SLASHDOT.ORG
Created On:05-Oct-1997 04:00:00 UTC
Last Updated On:15-Jan-2003 01:48:23 UTC
Expiration Date:04-Oct-2005 04:00:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:11-C
Registrant Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
Registrant Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
Registrant Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
Registrant City:N/A
Registrant Postal Code:N/A
Registrant Country:CA
Registrant Email:not@available.org
Admin ID:11-C
Admin Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
Admin Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
Admin Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
Admin City:N/A
Admin Postal Code:N/A
Admin Country:CA
Admin Email:not@available.org
Billing ID:11-C
Billing Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
Billing Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
Billing Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
Billing City:N/A
Billing Postal Code:N/A
Billing Country:CA
Billing Email:not@available.org
Tech ID:11-C
Tech Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
Tech Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net
Tech Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org
Tech City:N/A
Tech Postal Code:N/A
Tech Country:CA
Tech Email:not@available.org
Name Server:NS1.VASOFTWARE.COM
Name Server:NS2.VASOFTWARE.COM
Name Server:NS3.VASOFTWARE.COM
whats wrong? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-05-19 01:50 · Score: 1, Informative

And not long ago I read the .org was switching to PostgreSQL from DB2 for keeping zone info.. might be a corrupt postgresql database ?
Re:Flame if you will. by Anonymous Coward · 2003-05-19 01:52 · Score: 1, Informative

Umm, with all due respect, VeriSign isn't bad, but Network Solutions ain't exactly what I or anyone I know would call a "tight ship"....
Mine wont whois! by PoesRaven · 2003-05-19 01:55 · Score: 3, Informative

whois slashdot.org
[whois.crsnic.net]

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

No match for "SLASHDOT.ORG".

>>> Last update of whois database: Mon, 19 May 2003 06:05:55 EDT
hard code this into your hosts file by anticypher · 2003-05-19 01:57 · Score: 2, Informative

66.35.250.150 slashdot.org
198.186.202.135 NS1.VASOFTWARE.COM
198.186.202.136 NS2.VASOFTWARE.COM
66.35.250.12 NS3.VASOFTWARE.COM

Then your life can continue as normal, despite verisign's fuckup.

the AC

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Re:Here's mine by geirt · 2003-05-19 02:08 · Score: 2, Informative

Use the right whois server: whois -h whois.pir.org slashdot.org [whois.pir.org] NOTICE: Access to .ORG WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the PIR registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry for informational purposes only, and PIR does not guarantee its accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of Registry Operator or any ICANN-Accredited Registrar, except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. All rights reserved. PIR reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. Domain ID:D2289308-LROR Domain Name:SLASHDOT.ORG Created On:05-Oct-1997 04:00:00 UTC Last Updated On:15-Jan-2003 01:48:23 UTC Expiration Date:04-Oct-2005 04:00:00 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR Status:OK Registrant ID:11-C Registrant Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR Registrant Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net Registrant Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org Registrant City:N/A Registrant Postal Code:N/A Registrant Country:CA Registrant Email:not@available.org Admin ID:11-C Admin Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR Admin Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net Admin Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org Admin City:N/A Admin Postal Code:N/A Admin Country:CA Admin Email:not@available.org Billing ID:11-C Billing Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR Billing Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net Billing Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org Billing City:N/A Billing Postal Code:N/A Billing Country:CA Billing Email:not@available.org Tech ID:11-C Tech Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR Tech Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net Tech Street2:Referral URL:www.opensrs.org Tech City:N/A Tech Postal Code:N/A Tech Country:CA Tech Email:not@available.org Name Server:NS1.VASOFTWARE.COM Name Server:NS2.VASOFTWARE.COM Name Server:NS3.VASOFTWARE.COM

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Information Still Somewhere ??? by jojoeskimo · 2003-05-19 02:09 · Score: 2, Informative

http://www.pir.org/whois/ I ran a few whois queries straight off of pir's site, so the information is still floating around somewhere.....
Re:does it matter? by REBloomfield · 2003-05-19 02:12 · Score: 3, Informative

no, you're confusing the DNS record with who actually owns it, the registrant information. DNS should still work for a good while...
Re:Here's mine by AVee · 2003-05-19 02:17 · Score: 4, Informative

Hell, the whois in Debian Woody is like that. Quite annoying.

Annoying ideed, but easily fixed. Just create /etc/whois.conf and place the following line there:

.org whois.pir.org

That should do the job, at least is works for me...
Results depend on the whois server used by SimonPerry · 2003-05-19 02:27 · Score: 4, Informative

I was the source for the story on The Register. You'll see in the detail that it depends on which whois server you use. Crsnic is the one that's misreporting and it's supposed to be provide united results. Looks like PIR isn't talking to Crsnic properly.
1. Re:Results depend on the whois server used by Zocalo · 2003-05-19 02:55 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Looks like PIR isn't talking to Crsnic properly.
  As you state in your linked page, CRSNIC is run by Verisign. The same Verisign that handed .org prior to PIR and agreed to a three month handoff period from the start of the year. That would make the cut off March 31st or April 1st depending on your sense of humour. Which, it should come as no suprise, was the date that CRSNIC also stopped providing WHOIS info for .org domains.
  I also notice that the Register story has been removed from the frontpage, although the direct link is still available. I think we can safely file this under "Death of .org predicted. Film at eleven."
  
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It's been this way for weeks by cloudscout · 2003-05-19 02:34 · Score: 4, Informative

This problem has been around for months... In order to look up WHOIS information on .ORG domains, you have to point your WHOIS client at whois.pir.org. For some reason, whois.internic.net isn't redirecting the appropriate information. I first noticed the problem back in early March.
Never down? by Dasigner · 2003-05-19 02:35 · Score: 4, Informative

I don't think the .org registry ever went down. The only Informative message here (IMHO) was from jrwilk01: "Responsible servers changed, all is well. Nothing to see here. Move along." It was marked Redundant and scored 0, just because the moderators only saw the whois record!

Those of you with obsolete whois clients can do something like this:
$ whois slashdot.org@whois.publicinterestregistry.org ... Billing Street1:Whois Server:whois.opensrs.net ... $ whois slashdot.org@whois.opensrs.net
Or just go to whois.bw.org.
Re:Don't hit OSS by mukund · 2003-05-19 02:42 · Score: 3, Informative

I think the .org always worked, but the whois software's configuration which theregister.co.uk uses may be outdated and is still asking the Verisign servers for .org information.

With a new whois installation, PIR's servers are contacted instead (whois.publicinterestregistry.net).

With an old configured version of whois, one might try:

whois -h whois.publicinterestregistry.net domain.org

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Ooops... by MattRog · 2003-05-19 02:46 · Score: 1, Informative

Maybe they should've picked a DBMS with replication (no, not MySQL).

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Re:BOGUS REPORT by zdislaw · 2003-05-19 03:14 · Score: 2, Informative

DNS is fine. The servers holding the registry of name ownership are what the article claimings fell over. The article doesn't mention anything about DNS problems or people being unable to browse to .org sites. I'm certainly not saying the report is true, but if what they say happened did indeed happen, DNS would not necessarily be affected.

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