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Survey of Linux-Based Gadgets & Devices

An anonymous reader writes "NewsFactor Network recently asked: Where Are All the Cool Embedded-Linux Gadgets? Well, LinuxDevices.com has just updated its answer to that question. The Embedded Linux "Cool Devices" Quick Reference Guide now encompasses 123 Linux-based gadgets and devices in 7 categories, including PDAs, mobile-phones, IP-phones, audio/video entertainment, tablet computers, gateways/routers, servers, wireless access points, robots, web-enabled cameras, telematics, industrial controllers, wrist watches, and last but not least, a DIY category: little Linux systems for projects and products. Lots of great pictures, too."

137 comments

  1. Aibo? Asimov? by lingqi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Doesn't Aibo run linux? How about Honda's Asimov (the robot) I really thought they did - maybe I was wrong, though. Anybody have definitive knowledge?

    p.s. I think IBM japan is renting a honda Asimov as its receptionist for nearly 100,000 dollars per year. Who wants to be that it's the highest compensated
    1) receptionist - ever
    2) linux powered anything - ever (okay, if it ran linux - see above)

    It does irks me that a robot makes more than me, though... sigh. I don't mind a 100k/yr job as a receptionist. Fuck, I will do the job for HALF that and do The Robot (dance) for 8 hours a day to impress the people coming in.

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    1. Re:Aibo? Asimov? by Enraged_jawa · · Score: 4, Funny

      Aibo's don't have enough memory to run linux, but if they did I can imagine tens of thousands of them wandering the streets looking for 802.11b hotspots, finally converging in one area where their "owners" would arive and order espresso, pizzas, etc. I think the mp3 player in the Honda Element run's linux, though.

    2. Re:Aibo? Asimov? by sould · · Score: 1

      Aibo's don't have enough memory to run linux


      A href="http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-16332-4 17-4171227.html"> This CNet Aibo review says:


      Features: 64-bit RISC processor, 32 MB built-in memory


      32 megs not enough for you?

    3. Re:Aibo? Asimov? by BenTheDewpendent · · Score: 2, Informative

      the element has a windows logo on the mp3 cd-drive thingy...

    4. Re:Aibo? Asimov? by Enraged_jawa · · Score: 4, Funny

      32 megs not enough for you?
      Well, yeah, but only if you stick a memory stick up its ass but they are real slow when used for for dynamic ram..

    5. Re:Aibo? Asimov? by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's Asimo. No 'v'.

      Asimo might run some sort of Linux, but I seriously doubt it. I mean, the thing doesn't _need_ anything remotely resembling modern operating systems. If the Linux kernel were stripped of most of the extraneous code, it would actually run pretty quickly, but it wouldn't be anything like what most people think of when they say Linux.

      It's far more likely that Asimo runs an OS specifically designed for it.

  2. Linux-Based Smart Dildos! by corebreech · · Score: 3, Funny

    Talk about an embedded product!

    When will TechTV demonstrate this I wonder?

    Bring on Sumi Das!!!

    1. Re:Linux-Based Smart Dildos! by Kenja · · Score: 4, Funny

      To boldly go where no Linux geek has gone before, eh?

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    2. Re:Linux-Based Smart Dildos! by adamruck · · Score: 0

      "no Linux Geek"

      thats way to specific, you mean "nobody at all"

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    3. Re:Linux-Based Smart Dildos! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a sad day when my operating system is getting more than I am.

    4. Re:Linux-Based Smart Dildos! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't the commonly refered to as slashdolts or slashbots?

    5. Re:Linux-Based Smart Dildos! by ngkabra · · Score: 0
      To boldly go where no Linux geek has gone before, eh?

      Or is it "To boldly go where no Linux geek has come before?

  3. a growing market by Miguel+de+Icaza · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The market for embedded computing systems is growing rapidly what with: PDAs, set-top boxes, computer games, smart phones, and other systems are all demanding apps that are smaller, smarter, faster: and that run on multiple platforms

    I find Qt/Embedded (QtE) to be extremely resource-efficient for building really surprisingly sophisticated applications that run natively on multiple platforms with a simple recompile. QtE also integrates seamlessly with Java

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    1. Re:a growing market by I_Heat_Sexylaid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you're really MdI, why aren't you running Gnome on your gadgetry?
      Or did Root Mean Square give special dispensation?

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    2. Re:a growing market by theridersofrohan · · Score: 4, Informative
      I find Qt/Embedded (QtE) to be extremely resource-efficient for building really surprisingly sophisticated applications that run natively on multiple platforms with a simple recompile. QtE also integrates seamlessly with Java


      Too bad the parent post's author is not actually Miguel de Icaza (the Gnome/Ximian guy).

  4. The NIC is very nice. by Matey-O · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've got a Nic (used to be called ThinkNIC) that I turned into a DMZ webserver, running NetBSD. By pulling the CDROM and the modem daughtercard, a full size Harddisk fits perfectly. Tell it to use ports 80 and 22, and you've got a one wire in (power) and one wire out (ethernet).

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    1. Re:The NIC is very nice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      how do you tell the difference between a wire going "in" and a wire going "out"?

    2. Re:The NIC is very nice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was going to say based on the flow of electricity. Then I realized in both cases the electricity makes a round trip from outside into the device then back out again. So maybe it should be said it has 2 round trip wires.

    3. Re:The NIC is very nice. by Matey-O · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, it was hard, but I realized the line 'in' was bigger around. (to make up for losses due to heat, I'd presume.) ;)

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    4. Re:The NIC is very nice. by cpeterso · · Score: 3, Informative


      Just don't plug it into the Ether Killer.

  5. Inventory Control Device by alexmogil · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The furniture store my wife work at uses 802.11b wireless monochrome-screened barcode guns for inventory/zoning/price checking. I've seen these types of guns at WalMart/SAMS Clubs (actually... I had to use them. Eeek). I was, of course, trying to break the thing to see what it ran, and I eventually rebooted it to see it ran a very fast derivative of Red Hat.

    I was shocked. Wish I knew who the company was that made them. Neat.

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    1. Re:Inventory Control Device by chibiyoukai · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I worked at Wal-Mart about four or five years ago. At the time, our store used barcode scanners manufactured by Telxon for inventory and pricing purposes. They ran some variation of MS-DOS with drivers for the wireless networking. It was kinda neat to be able to break out of its autoexec.bat and force them into a command prompt. I wonder if Telxon switched over to Linux as well since I left.

  6. It was very likely Symbol by MondoMor · · Score: 5, Informative

    I see a whole lot of their stuff on the way to production. A very smart company, and their forte is hand-held barcode stuff.

    It doesn't mention Lunix, but here's a spiel on their embedded wireless LAN stuff.

    1. Re:It was very likely Symbol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the ones I used up here in canada all said Talxon on them

    2. Re:It was very likely Symbol by DavidpFitz · · Score: 1

      No, they don't say Talxon on the, they say Telxon. And, Symbol bought them out anyway.

      Symbol don't have *any* Linux based handsets, the newest ones are PocketPC/WinCE.NET based. PalmOS is a dog on those kind of devices, and the rest of the market is DOS.

  7. and Xbox? by 1seconddelay · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cant the xbox run on linux. PS2?

  8. Re:Did anyone ever consider by RLiegh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who says you can't have both a quailty product which happens to be made with linux?

    Hell, some of us wilder, more extreme types consider Linux as a *sign* of quality!

  9. Sigh by nemski · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great, more things my wife won't let me buy.

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    1. Re:Sigh by primus_sucks · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe you could work out a trade:)

    2. Re:Sigh by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Funny

      This gave me a great idea: Slashdot should add a "female relationships" section. Here's a topic to get it started: How you avoid women like this when you're dating? It seems most guys don't realize their future wife will be like this until after they've tied the knot.

    3. Re:Sigh by orcrist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think a lot of geeks end up going on the principle "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush", or... "a **** in the bush is worth a lot more than one in the hand". ;-)
      *groan*, i know it's bad

      -chris

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    4. Re:Sigh by FroMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The important issue is to meet your wife in your computer science classes. You know that one gorgeous woman in your computer science class, I married her.

      For my birthday this year, I was allowed to pick up my own breadboard and random resistors and circuts. For Christmas last year I bought her a new case and case modding supplies (I swear I am the only man who can claim he bought his wife a dremel for Christmas and was thanked for it).

      The important issue for getting a wife that lets you get what you want, is to make sure she wants the same things.

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    5. Re:Sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you earn a paycheck? Do you support your end of the bills? If so, no one has a right to tell you how to spend your money. Maybe its an age and experience thing but it amazes me to see young guys (and some old guys) brow beaten by their wives. When you gave her a ring did you give her your b@lls too?

    6. Re:Sigh by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Damn... I tried that, but it failed. I picked up the one hot woman in my EE classes, but after we got out of college and went to work we broke up. Now that I'm out of college, there's no single women left! At least none interested in engineers. And there's NO women where I work, at least any that you'd want to date (engineering department of a large semiconductor firm). I'm starting to wonder if I need to go back to school just to meet women.

    7. Re:Sigh by Zathrus · · Score: 1

      Heck, my wife was an English major, but she's still a geek... we actually met through friends... in EQ. Yeah, it's weird, and I don't recommend losing your life to EQ for the slim chance of meeting someone, but it worked for us.

      She recently bought a 802.11b router/nic for her laptop. I bought a new MB/PS/CPU/HD for an MP3 server.

      Oh... and we had a dremel on our Wedding Registry. Heck, she wanted it even more than I did (although I gotta admit it's cool and useful - planning to cut a cat door into one of our doors this weekend using it).

      She routinely buys stuff from Thinkgeek too... the last purchase was a "I (heart) My Geek" t-shirt for her :)

      Oh, and your last statement couldn't be more true!

    8. Re:Sigh by FroMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Cool beans.

      Actually right after we got married she bought EQ. Well, after playing with it for a day or so, I bought a copy too. We just kicked our EQ habit around the new year. Now we play PS2 or WCIII together quite often.

      Other projects are working on budget software together.

      Yeah, we both want to pick up the "I love my geek" t's also. Then we can look terribley "cute" together.

      Yeah, dremmels seem to be cat oriented. We built a cat tree a short while ago and the dremel was used extensively. What a wonderful device.

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    9. Re:Sigh by Zathrus · · Score: 1

      Happen to have plans/suggestions for the cat tree? I'm looking at building one sometime... just keep finding other things to do instead.

      The only plan I've seen is one from PETA... it's ok, but nothing special.

    10. Re:Sigh by FroMan · · Score: 1

      Right now my site is defunct, but I can put up pictures of it at some point. It was a blast to make. I'll make sure to reply to one of your comments after I do that to let you know to go look.

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  10. Dish 721 PVR by ArkiMage · · Score: 5, Informative

    One device I didn't see listed anywhere is the Dish Networks 721 PVR.

    http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/products/rece iv ers/dishpvr721/index.shtml

    The link to GNU GPL compliance http://208.45.37.181/ even runs ON a 721... Satellite receiver serving web pages, heh heh.

    1. Re:Dish 721 PVR by batura · · Score: 1, Funny

      I think this could be a first.... slashdotting a satellite reciver.

    2. Re:Dish 721 PVR by tenordave · · Score: 1

      Holy shit my name is on that page....
      I must thank you for informing me my game was now on a satillite thingy...I never would have guessed :)

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  11. But but but... by ivern76 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They forgot to list my favorite embedded Linux device :( Beowulf clusters of atomic supermen!

  12. Lots of cool stuff here... by plughead · · Score: 1, Funny

    But. I'm still holding out for some SpaceGhost(tm, probably) style Power Bands!

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  13. surprised at how little by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well there are a lot of networking devices (no suprise to anyone here since it's basically a stock Linux box on cheap PC or non-PC hardware), and quite a few media devices, I'm surprised at the small number of devices in other categories.

    I'm suprised we aren't seeing Linux in more phones, televisions, clocks, cameras and such. What's more, the list includes several rather exagerated "products" such as the Indrema system that was canned a long time ago and two IBM Linux wristwatches that will never go into production, but are merely interesting research projects.

    The most interesting devices are the Motorola and Sony ones. It looks like both of those companies have a serious (as in credible, not as in very large) interest in embedded Linux. Even there, though, the devices are answers looking for questions, not things that are likely to generate large numbers of sales.

    I've always thought that even though it is technically inferior in many ways, embedded Linux would beat out Windows CE just because of the economics of the embedded market scene. If this list is to be believed as representing the scope and penetration of embedded Linux, it is way behind and is unlikely to catch up.

    1. Re:surprised at how little by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My favourite never released Linux gadget is the Kerbango. Did anyone ever manage to come out with a user friendly Internet based IP-Radio device?

    2. Re:surprised at how little by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm suprised we aren't seeing Linux in more phones, televisions, clocks, cameras and such.

      because for most products ANY os is pure stupidity.

      Car stereo? Why? a simple embedded processor running the app directly talking to the i2c reciever and audio chips is plenty and 9,000,000 time cheaper.

      TV, toaster, Fridge, clocks? there is no reason to make a $49.00 alarm clock cost $299.95 just so it can run linux.

      Linux is there more than Windows for embedded. but it's nowhere near RTOS and Embedded DOS.

      and most critical systems run NO OS.

      I agree with you about the MS versus windows in a pda.. My zaurus is the only device that I have found to be more useable than a palm device. I have a drawer full of Windows CE and pocket PC devices that are not used because CE completely sucks. and pocket PC isn't much better.

      Luckily many of the HP journadas use the same LCD screen as the Pronto remote so I've been cannabalizing them...(amazing how a board-room get's enoguh physical abuse that they smash the remot's screen TWICE!) so they are useful in a way.

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    3. Re:surprised at how little by Zathrus · · Score: 3, Informative

      because for most products ANY os is pure stupidity.

      That's not really true... many embedded devices do run an OS, but it's not one you'll have ever heard of. These OS's are designed specifically for embedded use, and embedded use only -- they're probably not much more complicated than DOS (in fact, most are much simpler as far as interfaces go).

      Sure, you can get away without an embedded OS for a lot of stuff, but if you want to do file management (for data recording purposes as an example) or need to deal with anything more than rudimentary I/O then you're much, much better off getting an OS up and running than rewriting all that crap yourself. Especially since for file management you probably want to be able to interface with a floppy disk (or more recently a flash card or USB dongle) that can then be read in a standard PC.

      Most critical systems DO run an OS because of this. Part of a critical system is being able to figure out WTF was going on when it failed -- and an OS can provide a lot of services toward that goal.

      The key being that all of these OS's have a memory footprint a fraction of the size of Linux... but have most of the features you'd need all the same.

    4. Re:surprised at how little by evilviper · · Score: 1
      My zaurus is the only device that I have found to be more useable than a palm device

      You've never used a Psion or other EPOC/Symbian-based device.
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  14. Re: Priorities, News for Nerds?, Rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    More importantly, those pages at lInuxDevices haven't been touched since 2002. Most of those PDA's and web pads no longer exist. In many cases the companies no longer exist. Why, God? Why must they post moldy content on /. ?

  15. switching to FreeBSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How hard would it be to switch these devices over to either FreeBSD or NetBSD? This would be a cool project to work on.

    1. Re:switching to FreeBSD by neurostar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ever try posting about BSD in a Linux group?

      Bah, that's nothing... Try posting about IRIX in the Windows 95 support forum...

    2. Re:switching to FreeBSD by RLiegh · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bah, that's nothing... Try posting about IRIX in the Windows 95 support forum...

      Or VMS in a WindowsNT support forum...?

  16. I think my Zaurus SL-5500 rates as "cool" by The_Dougster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, its somewhat clunky as a PDA (according to the Experts - I like it) but slap in a 256Mb SD card and load it up with mp3's, get a aux audio cable or cdrom-cassette adapter, and it is an awesome mp3 player for your car. Doesn't skip, can set to random shuffle repeat, all your favorite songs, etc. An expensive mp3(ogg) player but it runs Linux, has a Arm/RISC processor, and the James Bond keyboard is slicker than shit through a tin horn.

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    1. Re:I think my Zaurus SL-5500 rates as "cool" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually coolest is to use it as movie player: .ogm works fine on it !!

      Peple with similar Windows CE or Pocket Windows
      devices are so surprised ...

    2. Re:I think my Zaurus SL-5500 rates as "cool" by Salsaman · · Score: 1

      Also cool is to run Doom (prboom) on it. I've amazed a few people showing them that.

    3. Re:I think my Zaurus SL-5500 rates as "cool" by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, its somewhat clunky as a PDA (according to the Experts - I like it) I highly doubt any "expert" on pda's.... in fact you are talking about the reviews on PC magazine and other reviews? here's a news flash... magazine reviewers are NOT experts.

      I have a fleet of SL-5500's here at work. Why? because my unit impressed the boss so much she had me get one for every sales person and collected all the Ipaq's and HP journadas.

      My support calls have gone from 2 a week for the WinCE and pocket PC devices to ZERO for the zaurus, I dont get anything but "Excellent replacing those crappy handhelds! I love this thing!" kind of comments.

      after 2 weeks I'm thinking of rolling out the 3.1 rom upgrade to all the devices, I'm running it and it's 100 times better than the old one.

      the ZL-5500 rates as a must buy. from the geek to the clueless CEO who still thinks his mouse is a foot pedal for his computer.

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    4. Re:I think my Zaurus SL-5500 rates as "cool" by caffeinex36 · · Score: 1

      Until you get through a song or two, and the battery dies because it sucks so damn bad!!

      I have a 5000-D with a 256SD and a CF WiFi. It is USELESS due to the low battery life. If I put the WiFi in I get at MOST an hour!

      You'll have to pry my blackberry out of my dying hands....

    5. Re:I think my Zaurus SL-5500 rates as "cool" by theLOUDroom · · Score: 1

      And what's the battery life of your blackberry with a wifi card in it and playing mp3s?

      The batteries in my TI-89 last for months. That doesn't mean it's going to replace my Zaurus any time soon. They're fundamentally different devices.

      If you just use it to play mp3s, you should be able to get 4-5 hours. Wifi kills the batteries in anything that small. It just takes a lot of power. If you want to use wifi all the time, I suggest you pick up an external battery pack. That, or consider bluetooth.

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  17. Re:Did anyone ever consider by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Your closing sentence contradicts itself. If you were as big a fan as at least some around here, then you would buy things strictly because they are Linus Torvalds-related. People were clamoring to buy that thousand-dollar transmeta board even though it's a slow mofo, for example.

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  18. another one for the AV category by rumpledstiltskin · · Score: 3, Informative

    This page has a list of systems from High End systems. The company designs robotic lighting systems, and a few years ago bought the company that designs their light boards. the whole hog lightboards run on custom rolled linux. The latest board probably runs around 15-20,000 dollars though, so it'll be a while before I buy one for my garage. :).

  19. Do you think by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1, Funny

    that in the Bizzaro universe, there are a bunch of DotSlashers posting about the attempts at porting Win-does to these closed-source Lunix monopoly products?

    1. Re:Do you think by fgb · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Do you think by dswt · · Score: 1

      Of course there are! Here's the story they're reading: Windows Embedded Cool Devices Quick Reference Guide

  20. Missing Catagory ... by Mooncaller · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Electrical Test equipment. Agilent has several Linux based devises. They had plans to expand its use. But MS got a hold of them (from the inside) and convinced them to use WindowsXP for all new platforms, despite the failure of other Windows based instruments, and the advise of almost every firmware engineer in the company. When Agilent markets a Windows based instrument, they promote the fact that its Windows based. This does not sell the instrument, rather it is done to have a positive effect on stock prices. In reality, press releases that highlight Linux would be appealing to tech savy investors. And its tech savay investors that would be attracted to a company like Agilent. As it is, Agilent marketing has no incentive to do this. If antention was paid to Linux based T&M equipment, Agilent marketing might take notice. Probably not enough to countermand Microsofts wishes, but enough to make a dent.

    1. Re:Missing Catagory ... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Yep, my opinion of Agilent dropped like a rock when they moved from HP-UX for their logic analyzers to Windoze. I was already pissed at Tektronix for doing the same thing earlier. Now it seems impossible to find any decent high-end test equipment.

  21. Seriously Where? by BenTheDewpendent · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously where can you buy this stuff? I remember looking at this stuff before and then looking for a tablet to buy and none could be found... FIC Aquapad for example I went to FIC and they didn't have it for sale nor did any of their retailers sell it... I think much of that stuff is a) vaporware that vaporised with the bubble b) vaporware that has yet to be finished but will see day light. I am aware some of the products are avaiable but many seem hard to find or get...

    1. Re:Seriously Where? by SomeOtherGuy · · Score: 1

      If you could buy any of this stuff, my guess would be Tokyo or Korea. Granted, that is a little further than me driving to Best Buy or Circuit City....But I bet if I did want to cross the Pacific -- most of these things would be vaporware anyway...

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    2. Re:Seriously Where? by gosand · · Score: 1
      Seriously where can you buy this stuff?

      Most of it is just marketing hoo-hah. I have been looking for those friggin' Freepads for about 3 years now. They went about a year without updating their website, so it is good to see that they have at least done that. And they created some new "product" images, but that is about it.

      Seriously, how can some of these be called "products" when in reality they are concepts. The Freepad now says it uses Opera and Bluetooth, which really just means that they have "upgraded" their marketing materials.

      And their motto is something like "the leader in mobile internet access devices" or some such BS. I would go check to see the exact wording, but it would just piss me off more that they aren't a real product.

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    3. Re:Seriously Where? by John+Harrison · · Score: 1
      I have the CDL/IBM pda with the fingerprint reader, smart card reader, bluetooth and GSM cell phone sitting on my desk. I have one because I am on the development team. You can buy it from CDL, however I don't think they are aimed at the consumer market.

      That is probably true of many of these devices. You aren't going to find them at buy.com since they are not aimed at consumers, but are intended to be part of some larger system.

    4. Re:Seriously Where? by Chrontius · · Score: 1

      I am a happy end user of a SonicBlue/Frontpath Progear webpad. My only gripe is the damn thing comes with no nice GUI-based text editor (just VI), compiler, PIM, or sketchpad. However, for use as an MP3 jukebox it's pretty nice, and it makes an excellent portable browser.

      You can order an FIC AquaPad here.

  22. Does a c64 count? by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's a semi-port of Linux to Commodore 64 (called Lunix) and it provides very wide functionality (as for such a platform :) Personally I'd love to see a 100% C64 compatibile handheld running such thing. And I'm not talking about emulators - I just dream about a sentimental fully-featured 8-bit computer compatibile with some of the old ones (Atari, Commodore, Spectrum, Amstrad...) that's portable.

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    1. Re:Does a c64 count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I do not know about compatibility, but why not build one yourself... No joke. This very cool project is one of the many available at the 6502.org page. Then you could port LUNIX to your own computer...

  23. Re:The only problem with linux devices is... by 1seconddelay · · Score: 1

    there not everywhere =)

  24. What ?? by dorfsmay · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Your son ? Self-made ???

    Is this a slash dot insider joke on masturbation, or you actually managed to clone yourself ??

  25. Re:SELF MADE PRODUCT by MoThugz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does your mrs work in Transmeta? I'd be going for that blood test ASAP after junior's birth if I were you.

  26. Re:Linux based? Better call your lawyer first by 1seconddelay · · Score: 0

    ah, windows was lifted. And it SUCKS.

  27. Re:Did anyone ever consider by kramer2718 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think that the point of the article was: 'Hey these products run linux, go buy them.'

    I think it was more just an encouraging note (especially to linux developers) that linux can keep up in the embedded systems market.

  28. I want my toaster to be network ready... by antispamist · · Score: 1

    When I have to upgrade the firmware of my toaster to toast a baggle I will be fulfilled. I would then die a happy techie.

    Better yet, I hope we have to connect to windowsupdate to get our upgrades. Then you could 'mod' your toaster to run tostux.

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  29. Re:Did anyone ever consider by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course not, who here would consider that? Linux users are legendary big spenders who'll throw cash at principle instead of demanding the best values. Next we'll be accused of using free software!

  30. Are PDA's really "embedded"? by PhilHibbs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They have screens, some even have proper keyboards, are these really embedded systems? I always thought that an embedded system was one in which the user wasn't aware what kind of software was in it, it just did the job without command prompts, windows, or dialog boxes. As soon as you expose the operating system, you aren't embedded any more.

  31. This was published over a year ago by kinnell · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The Embedded Linux "Cool Devices" Quick Reference Guide (Updated Mar. 21, 2002)

    When I read this article, it seemed strangely familiar. Then I realised it was exactly the same article which was posted over a year ago.

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    1. Re:This was published over a year ago by JohnFluxx · · Score: 1

      Thanks for linking to that bbc article... jeez

  32. Re:The only problem with linux devices is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, if newest Mercedes now called "linux gadget", i think linux therefore has no problems at all ;)

    I wish i were installed into such a car as an permanent operator-penguin ;)

  33. The NIC is dying... by benjamindees · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, dead actually. Call the sales number and you get a recording: "The sales hotline is inactive due to the closure of the company."

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  34. Re:Did anyone ever consider by CableModemSniper · · Score: 0

    Wow, that was a great troll, I salute you.

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  35. TiVo Anyone? by oniroku · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was under the impression TiVos like my Sat-T60 are linux boxes...

    1. Re:TiVo Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course they are. That is why they are part of the list...

  36. Cisco content engines by jlmcgraw · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can attest to the fact that high end Cisco content engines are using the Linux kernel. I don't recall which version (we've since unplugged and returned them) but it sure surprised me when I saw the boot log.

  37. The only time I've not had mod points and ... by fizbin · · Score: 1

    actualy wanted to use them. Talk about dupes.

    And what the other respondent said about the sig; I hadn't heard that anywhere before.

  38. Hey, here's a question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who the fuck cares?

    It's just an online news site.

  39. As I recall by John+Penix · · Score: 1

    The older ones were based on a BSD core. I'd love to see the internal memo documenting that switch.

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  40. Re:Aibo? Asimov? Receptionist? by Charlie+Bill · · Score: 1

    Back in the dotcom boom, receptionists who had traded stock options for pay did pretty well...