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Canadian University to Begin Training Hackers

torok writes "According to an article at The Edmonton Journal, The University of Calgary is going to start teaching select computer science students to write software viruses in a special new disconnected lab. Will Canada be accused of training the world's next generation of cyber-terrorists... or peacekeepers?"

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  1. AWWWW YEAH HAY DOOD L@@K HERE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    WHO LET THE H4X0RS OUT?
    l33t,l337,l33t,1337

    WHO LET THE H4X0RS OUT?
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    WHO LET THE H4X0RS OUT?
    l33t,l337,l33t,1337

    WHO LET THE H4X0RS OUT?
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    WHO LET THE H4X0RS OUT?
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  2. Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now we have a reason to invade Canadia.

  3. I wonder... by jarodss · · Score: 4, Funny

    will this be offered as an online course?

    1. Re:I wonder... by kurosawdust · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not anymore - the last time they tried that everyone got A+'s and six degrees apiece with full tuition reimbursements.

  4. wait, wait, don't tell me... by Triv · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will Canada be accused of training the world's next generation of cyber-terrorists... or peacekeepers?"

    Oh! Oh! I Know! Is it...terrorists?

    Triv

    1. Re:wait, wait, don't tell me... by Xerithane · · Score: 2, Funny

      canada has always had an amazing real Peackeeping force, perhaps this is the beginning of a virtual peace keeping force.

      The Mounties? I shudder at the thought of a burly man, sitting in his underwear in front of the computer, wearing a mounty hat. We must think of the cost of keeping the peace, and decide if it's worth that cost.

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  5. Resume by phorm · · Score: 5, Funny
    But... somehow I have a problem seeing this net me a job on my resume:

    Skills:
    • Virus Creation
    • System Cracking
    • Advanced infection techniques

    Comment:
    While I realize the above skills may not be entirely useful for the position described, I have noted that you do have an internet connection to your primary server via IP address 66.35.250.150. Would you like me to tell you your root password during an interview, or should I be ready work at 8:30am tomorrow?
    1. Re:Resume by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Uh, I don't know about the folks you work for, but in my experience this goes like:

      Me: "I have noted that you do have an internet connection to your primary server via IP address 66.35.250.150. Would you like me to tell you your root password ?"

      Them: "Oh really? Can you fix my Microsoft Explorer? It won't come up."

      Me: "But, if I can get in, anyone else can too!"

      Them: "That's okay, there's nothing important on my computer!"

      Me: "But they could launch an attack on other computers, they could get personal information or sniff traffic"

      Them: (laughs) "Look, I've a got a firewall, nobody can get in"

      Me: "No that's just a file on your desktop titled 'firewall'.. it's just an empty text file! Don't you see the file I added under it titled 'HEY SHIT-FOR-BRAINS YOUR SHARES ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.txt'"????

      Them: "Yeah, that Bill Gates sure thinks of everything! What a genius! Imagine what the world would be like without the MSN internet!"

      etc.

  6. Re:Crackers by PukkaStoryTeller · · Score: 4, Funny

    A thin crisp wafer or biscuit, usually made of unsweetened dough.

  7. Re:O'Canada by saforrest · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, I'm quite proud to be an (adopted) Canadian. I see this as just another way for us to poke the Nazi Americans...what with SARs, mad cow, and our threat to decriminalize pot...why shouldn't we just push the envelope a little more? ;-)

    We also maintain a threatening lead in Zamboni technology. [This borrowed from Canadian Bacon].

  8. Re:hype by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

    where did they get the figure of $1.6-trillion of damage done by viruses

    I was out sick for 2 weeks a few months ago with a virus so that explains a lot but I'm dammed if I know where they got the other half trillion from.

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    What truth?
    There is no dupe
  9. Re:Crackers by Archfeld · · Score: 1, Funny

    Cracker, Hackers, it is all relative...It depends on which side of the cell bars you are currently on.
    Crackers you pay for, Hackers you get for free as a M$ like bonus feature to the WWW :)

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    errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
  10. Cyber Terrorism? Blame Canada! by cms108 · · Score: 2, Funny

    sorry.

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    cHris

  11. Finally! by MongooseCN · · Score: 2, Funny

    This will let Bush make all those jokes about invading Canada become a reality.

    Wait, I meant liberate Canada from cyber terrorists.

  12. So now we have by Tri0de · · Score: 3, Funny

    The 'Eh?" virus coming our way.

    If America and Canada got into a war, where would all the draft dodgers go?

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    "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
  13. Re:Just tools by NeoPotato · · Score: 2, Funny

    In fact, when educated, most people will use their powers for good, not evil.. :)

    Yes, until they have a power trip, turn to the dark side, turn against their former masters, then go on a wear-only-black-and-conquer-the-galaxy binge, only to be struck down by their own son, who they were trying to turn evil at the time.

    Getting 0wn3d by your own son is bad enough, but it's somewhat more humiliating when you open your son's email only to get a nasty VB worm that pops up a message saying "h4x0r3d by j00r k1dd13 - l00k3".

  14. Re: i can just see the film... by op51n · · Score: 5, Funny

    Disgruntled Professor in said subject goes insane (but his inherent humanity remains for later purposes in the script, naturally) and writes a virus that will 'bring down the planets computing power'. Former student and star of the class is brought in (obviously from somewhere and time at which they for some reason cannot face computers (possibilities: severe RSI, Epilepsy set off miraculously by 65-85Hz screens, Blindness...) to defeat the mad professor, before the final showdown with badly executed profundities.

    And all the computer scenes have to use a bizarre and unique 3D styled UI, that looks wholly unusable, and slightly, if not completely frustrating.

    Geee, I can't wait *lays on the fake exuberance*. These things always happen when something becomes more mainstream.

  15. Re:Crackers by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 3, Funny

    I like pclminion (145572)'s response to this.

    From post #5336611

    "Let them refer to crackers as 'hackers.' We'll just switch to referring to hackers as 'gods.' ;-)"

  16. Re:O'Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    he USA whipped your ass in curling during the 2000 summer olympics

    Isn't curling a winter sport?

  17. Re:Crackers by sxe_p06 · · Score: 1, Funny

    *looks around the computer lab*
    *Removes Plastic Vulcan Ears*
    *tries to think of a lecture for tonight in place of 'Hacker vs. Cracker*

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    -- p06 "On religious wars: They're essentially wars over whoo's imaginary friend is better"
  18. Too Funny... by Blarfy_Snarflepoop · · Score: 2, Funny
    I'm the guy that'll be building the lab!

    I could prove it: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~erik

    But, looks like someone has been doing some early studying for the course; our DNS is pooched. Oh well, its after hours now - it'll have to wait until tomorrow...

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    No sig for you.
  19. Kirk did it. by xixax · · Score: 4, Funny

    The first year results are held on an unpatched IIS box.

    For your final exam, there's a security certified server that holds your results. If you can give yourself an A+, you probably deserve it. :o)

    Xix.

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    "Everything is adjustable, provided you have the right tools"
  20. Re:Hacking ethics by rzbx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Great! If admitting to making a mistake gets you marked as Flaimbait, then I didn't do it.

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    Question everything.
  21. They're not terrorists by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 4, Funny

    When they're on our side, they're called Freedom Fighters!

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    In Soviet America the banks rob you!
  22. Re: i can just see the film... by Xerithane · · Score: 2, Funny

    Former student and star of the class is brought in (obviously from somewhere and time at which they for some reason cannot face computers (possibilities: severe RSI, Epilepsy set off miraculously by 65-85Hz screens, Blindness...) to defeat the mad professor, before the final showdown with badly executed profundities.

    Nah, the former star student would be in jail and would be released a la The Jackal to catch the mad professor. Then they would let him "disappear" only to find him later at a cybercafe dead due to bloodclots in his legs...

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    Dacels Jewelers can't be trusted.
  23. Re:They might be accused... by mlush · · Score: 5, Funny
    roughly 70% of the code written will be copied from a single student while hte other 30% is competely unworkable. =)

    ...and if caught at plagerism the studants can claim that the copyed virus infected their project work

  24. Re:Crackers by Marlor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Kernel hackers is a false term. Anyone who was there when the term "hackers" was invented knows that it refers to unauthorized entry to a computer system.



    Ah, so you were a member of the MIT Model Railway Club back in the 1960s when the term "hacker" was invented (and long before networked computers became popular). OK then, thanks for enlightening us all.

  25. Re:Crackers by Tony-A · · Score: 2, Funny

    Right. Methinks hacking is a matter of persistence rather than training.
    The media gets it wrong because of their limited idea of what anyone would want to do with a strange computer system. (The media doesn't get any other field "right" either ;)

    C Hacker? Right.
    Unix Hacker? Right.
    Kernel Hacker? Right.
    PL/I Hacker? Never heard of it.
    MVS Hacker? Never heard of it.
    COBOL Hacker? You gotta be kidding.

  26. In other news... by Mensa+Babe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Canadian University to Begin Training Hackers! They plan to be the third world largest hacker training ground, just after MIT and Berkley! Watch news at 9 pm! *sigh*

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  27. Simple answer... by JohnnyCannuk · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Know your enemy, know yourself and in a hundred battles you shall not lose"

    Sun Tzu :)

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